Re: [kln2-devel] more advanced options

[Piotr S. <pe...@pl...>]

Dnia 02-03-2006, czw o godzinie 21:43 +0100, Marek Wieckowski
napisa=B3(a):

> Witaj Piotrze!
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> Thank you for your letter. :)
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> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Piotr Sawicki wrote:
> > Is it possible that you add possibility to choose between more cl=
efs?
> > It would be great for learning C clef familly too and extending i=
t to
> > other G and F old french clefs would gain popularity among Music
> > Conservatory students which have to learn them (in Poland)
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> The devel version of klearnnotes2 (available from kln2 web page, se=
e=20
> the "CVS" part of Download menu) has:
> * the standard G clef (and the 8va lowered G clef - diff only if yo=
u
>    answer questions with your real instrument and a microphone conn=
ected
>    to a PC)
> * the F (bass), and two C clefs (alto and tenor).
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> It's quite easy to add more clefs but it really needs sorting out,=
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> especially when considering music newbies.


Yes, I thought that these clefs woud be only visible if one marks an
option in advanced config window like:
"show more clefs", so the standard configuration would not show them =
and
not disturb newbies.

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> Please, help me understand better what would be needed:
> * by "old French G clef" you mean a G clef with G on the lowest of =
the
>    five lines, right?

Yes, that is right.

> * what is an "old F clef"?

F clef - the dots of the clefs points the line

the third line is baritone,


> * in "C family" you probably mean the soprano clef (C on the lowest=
 of the
>    five lines);=20

Yes,=20

> do you think the baritone (C on the top line) and
>    mezzo-soprano (C on the second line) clefs are useful too?

Yes for the students, composers, theoretics which has to read old sco=
res
a vista or play Bach chorales or has to sing old compositions during =
ear
training lessons.
There is also soprano c clef - first line and tenor clef - fourth lin=
e.=20

> * what about the sub-bass (F clef with F on the top line)?

Put it too with all names.

> * are all the clefs used with "8va"? Would this be useful at all?

I think not, since it is obvious what are the pitch names because it =
is
just an octave transposition.=20
I think also that sometime it could be also nice to extend ability to
read in transposition for Bb Eb instruments and other transpositions =
in
order to help people who deal with large scores and have to understan=
d
and play them, and it could be interesting to train reading from more
than one clef (staff system) at once, like from piano with 2 differen=
t
clefs.

thanks for your answer

regards
pozdrawiam serdecznie
Piotr