Re: [kln2-devel] solfege crap, Klearnmusic

[Marek W. <Mar...@fu...>]

Javier,

Thanks for summarizing to kln2-devel the ideas you have wrote to
me privately before. Yeah, it's good to share them with others.

On Friday 12 March 2004 07:40, javier wrote:
> possibly linux version is sooooo big that could be
> named Klearnmusic instead.

We will discuss this once enough new features are added. But
there is a number of good reasons why _not_ to rush into project
name changing. Anyway, there is such a possiblility, but right
now it is definitely too soon to open such a discussion.

> input can be choose with 7 diferent systems:

Yes. This is the aim for kln2 too: to have all input ways done
in a similar way, so that any input (or even a few at the same
time) could be used for any exercise.

> 1-"Plain" Piano keyboard
> 4-English Enharmonic Keyboard
> 5-French Enharmonic Keyboard
> 6-German Enharmonic Keyboard
[...]
> 1 have the keys white
> 4 have letters ... C/B#/Dbb over the white keys C
> 5 have letters ... do/sib/rebb over the white keys C
> 6 have letters that says C/H#/Dbbb over the white keys C

But why not use B/H/ti choice for the (3):

> 3-Staff Keyboard
[...]
> option 3 have a little grand staff (treble and bass
> clef) with the notes and the letters that says A B C
> over the notes,

From my point of view there are following input ways needed:
[done or almost done:]
1. clickable piano keyboard
2. computer keyboard
3. buttons with note's names
4. clickable staff
5. voice input [say note's name to your mic]

[planned:]
6. clickable guitar fretboard [with extra options (for mandolin/
   bass guitar)]
7. midi keyboard input [should be easy with tse3]
8. microphone pitch input [play or sing the shown note to your
   mic]

Now, all the graphical [on-screen] inputs [1,3,4,6] should show
note's name when highlighted. This depends on whether user wants
to use English, German or French(=Solfeggio) notes' naming. Also
computer keyboard input depends on this (it should react to key
B/H/T depending on which naming system a user has chosen).

Therefore, I think of naming convention choice as a choice
independent of which of the 1-8 above a user wants to use as
input.

Plus, all the graphical [on-screen] inputs should be used as a
means for asking questions (which depends just on which
of the signals are really used by an Exercise).

> 5 have letters ... do/sib/rebb over the white keys C
[...]
> AND IS NOT MOVABLE DO ANYWHERE.

True. It looks like what we called "modified fixed Do".

> I insist that the movable do is only for learn to
> sing.

I agree. And because there is no clear name for double
sharp/flat notes nor for E#,Fb,B#,Cb it is virtually impossible
to use movable Do for music learning even if someone wanted to.

> so can be configure like any instrument with
> strings, from a violin (4 strings, 0 frets) to a 7
> string guitar (7 string, 24 frets) and everything in
> between.

I really don't know if there is a point in implementing a
not-fretted "fretboard". (BTW: how do you call the "fretboard"
part of the violin in English?)

In principle it can be done (you click on a picture with no
frets and depending on the point you click on the answer is
considered right or wrong), but is there really a point? Would
it really teach anything? I can imagine, for these instruments
learning to play is more about feeling the real instrument.

I think we should not consider this even as a far-future goal.

But yes, changing number and tunes of strings and number of
frets should be done. In future. First aim is hard-coded
6-string guitar with standard (EBGDAE) tuning.

~Marek

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