Re: [kln2-devel] re: do-re-mi

[Marek W. <Mar...@fu...>]

Hi e-body,

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:12:59 Fernando Cuenca wrote:
> > My suggestion would be adding it as a third option for
> > German/English notation (I guess "French notation" is an
> > adequate name for do-re-mi stuff).
>
> What about calling it "Italian" or "Latin"? According to the
> legend, the names come from:
>
>   _Ut_ queant laxis  (eventually became "do")
>   _Re_sonare fibris
>   _Mi_ra gestorum
>   _Fa_muli tuorum
>   _Sol_ve pulluti
>   _La_bii reatum
>   _S_ancte _J_ohannes (eventually became "si" or "ti")

Wow, I just wanted to learn about music, and now I am picking up
Latin... :)

After reading Mo's letter: I would stick to "Solfeggio" name for
this - it is probably less confusing. Or we may simply call this
"Do-Re-Mi notation".

> We could use "Ti" for "si", which is what English speakers use
> ("si" gets confused with "C"). In that case, all notes would
> have a unique letter:
>
>    [d]o
>    [r]e
>    [m]i
>    [f]a
>    [s]ol
>    [l]a
>    [t]i
>
> I haven't looked at the code yet, but I would assume the
> keystrokes associated with each letter are kind of hard-coded
> now, aren't they? In that case, we also need to find a way of
> generalizing that.

First of all: they do change when you change notation from
English to German (the first one reacts on computer kbd key "B" the
other on "H"). And there is another kbd input way: you can press
number keys displayed above the buttons (3 for C, 4 for D and so
on). So they are not that 'hard' coded. ;)

> > How do you call these? E.g. what is C#? "Do sharp"? "Do with
> > a cross"?
>
> In English, it would be "Do sharp" or "Mi flat". In Spanish, "Do
> sostenido" or "Mi bemol".
>
> > Is it clear what "Do #" might mean?
>
> Yes. We use the "#" sign for sharps and "b" for flat,
> following the name (like "Do#" or "Mib").
>
> > how are chords like "C sharp major" called?
>
> In Spanish you use capital M for Mayor and lower case m for
> minor. Like in: "Do# Mayor" and "Mib minor". Also, if you
> don't mention the mode (like in just "Do#") it's assumed you
> are refering to the Major mode.

The reason I asked was that in Poland do-re-mi is
sometimes used but I have never ever seen it with any
accidental.

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 Mo wrote:
> Ascending:
> Do Di Re Ri Mi Fa Fi Sol Si La Li Ti Do
>
> Descending
> Do Ti Te La Le Sol Se Fa Mi Me Re Ra Do



[Sigh.] Fernadno's and Mo's letters are a bit contradictory. So
"Di" or "Do #"? "Te" or "Ti b"?

I like Se-Sol-Si more than "Sol b - Sol - Sol #" (because it is
more concise and can be used for singing) but the question is
which is more frequently used. Could you, guys sort this out
between yourselves and let us know about the conclusion?

In the end there are two contradictory directions:
* a user should have a choice
* a user should get a clear interface (therefore, 30 different
  notation options are not acceptable).

So, I would choose one of those (my vote goes for
Do-Ti-Te/Li-La-Le/Si-Sol-Se/Fi-Fa-Mi-Me/Ri-Re-Ra/Di-Do), and
store it e.g. in a user-editable config file. Does this seem
reasonable?

~Marek

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