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Re: [kleardock-user] KlearDock/ KSmoothDock merge

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

Sarah Elan wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering if there was any consensus on merging kleardock and
> ksmoothdock, especially now that ksmoothdock development is active again
> and there hasn't been anything new in kleardock cvs in a while. I've
> just contributed a small patch (the 12-hour clock) to ksmoothdock which
> should be included in the next release. Now I'm thinking about
> submitting some more changes to ksmoothdock but first I was wondering
> about kleardock's status.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sarah
> 
Right, well the merge has already gone ahead, and basically Viet has 
taken some bits out of KlearDock to complete the KSmoothDock codebase.

The rewrite I'm working on is still underway, and will be called 
KSmoothDock 4.

Apart from that, we're all welcome to join the KSD team.

The point of the merger is that the fork didn't have a reason to exist 
any more since the KSD developpement was active again.

Hope this klears things up a little.

David

[Kleardock-user] FASD project: Online survey launched

[<ben...@id...>]

Dear Open Source developer

I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate.
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_______________________________________________________________________

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8092 Zurich

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[kleardock-user] KlearDock/ KSmoothDock merge

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

First of all, no I'm not dead, and I haven't abandoned the project, 
actually I've been working on a ground up rewrite with loadable module 
support that should hit CVS within 2-3 weeks (not including modules 
though :-()

Any how... Viet has been in touch and is keen to start developing again, 
and has proposed that we merge the 2 projects to speed up development. 
I'm in favor of this, as an emacs/xemacs split just doesn't make sense 
in our position, the more we are the better.

OTOH, I'd like your input  on what you think should be done.

Also I'd like to know what you'd like the name of the new project to be 
(KlearDock or KSmoothDock or even something else).

Regards

David

Re: [Kleardock-user] Adding a system tray

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

Jason Freidman wrote:
> Is it possible to add a systemtray to kleardock?  
The short awnser is no, not yet, but I'm working on it.


I just got it
> installed and really like it.  If I could add a system tray im apt to
> drop the kde bar entirely. 
Actually, I'm not sure if kicker (the kde bar) isn't also responsable 
for the Kmenu, but sure, I would too.

I've been looking at the kde docs and see
> KSystemTray, but I can't tell if its for adding an icon to an existing
> systemtray or making a new one. 
If you found the page on the systray protocol, then it's for adding an 
icon too the tray, but I'm currently considering hacking the kicker 
source a bit to see if I can get something going.
  Adding one to program didn't seem to
> have any effect whatsoever.


David
> 

[Kleardock-user] Adding a system tray

[Jason F. <ja...@co...>]

Is it possible to add a systemtray to kleardock?  I just got it
installed and really like it.  If I could add a system tray im apt to
drop the kde bar entirely. I've been looking at the kde docs and see
KSystemTray, but I can't tell if its for adding an icon to an existing
systemtray or making a new one.  Adding one to program didn't seem to
have any effect whatsoever.

-- 
Jason Freidman <ja...@co...>

[kleardock-user] autohide

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

Just to say that the KlearDock CVS now has an autohide feature in it 
that 'more or less) works, I merged Alfonso's patch in this evening. 
There's a bit more work to do on the esthetics side, but it's ready.

Chances are that they'll be another file release in one or two weeks 
time, but the CVS is pretty stable as it is, so please check it out.

David

[kleardock-user] CVS Changelog

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

Just to say that I've submitted a couple of bug fixes to CVS.

[Kleardock-user] bug+feature request

[Jorma T. <jt...@wi...>]

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I posted this before to kde-look.org but I'm reposting it here since I got =
no=20
answer from my previous post.

I would like to have autohide feature like in kasbar so it would slide on=20
screen when mouse cursor is at the bottom(or other location) of the screen.
I have ~12" screen with 1024x768 resolution, so this is a must.
=20
 Also, KlearDock segfaults if smalliconsize equals bigiconsize.
=20
 So in line 1224 of kleardock.cpp
 change:
 if (iwSmall > iwBig)
 to:
 if (iwSmall >=3D iwBig)
=20
 that should fix it.
=20
 I tried to put those to same size because I don't like icon zooming :P

Keep up the good work, looks promising(I'll be using it all the time after(=
and=20
if) you get autohide to kleardock).

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Jorma Tuomainen
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Re: [Kleardock-user] smoother zoom for kleardock

[Shlomi L. <lou...@01...>]

David Mills wrote:
> Welcome to the team, don't worry if you don't have much time atm, I've
> been held up by exams these last few weeks so...
>

And i'm going to do exactly the same for the next few weeks :)

> I've added you as a developper, but you've got more or less free reigne
> on the sf project site. and the ssh CVS access should be up and running
> by now.
>
> Atm there are three of us, the third developper being Sarah Elan.
>
>
> Currently, what we're aiming for is to get the bugs ironed out and
> include a kcontrolcenter module for 1.0, and after that concentrate on
> getting everything cleaned out. I'm personnally hoping to be able to get
> the different zones into loadable module files, which would make
> maintaining the code more or less trivial. But failing that, I think I'd
> settle for haveing them in their own classes seperated out from the
> KlearDock class.

Here's an idea: after we do that we can write a kicker applet for each of 
these modules. What do you think about it?

>
> One last question though: would it be possible to tell me what your
> running kleardock on? I'm on a slackware 9.1 and Sarah's running
> Mandrake 9.1 and is going to go 9.2 soon.

I'm using Debian Sid.
(my computer (apt-)gets updates from the net every day, so there isn't a 
version number for that).
Right now i'm using KDE3.1.5 on my system.

i have one question too : did you or Sarah try to use Kleardock with my 
changes? your thoughts about it ?

Shlomi.


--
http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomil/

[Kleardock-user] Debian package

[Shlomi L. <lou...@01...>]

Package for debian Sid (unstable) available here:
deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/kazit/debs ./
(includes my changes)

Should be added to dowload page IMO.

Shlomi.

Re: [Kleardock-user] smoother zoom for kleardock

[Shlomi L. <lou...@01...>]

ooops, i tarred the wrong cpp files im my last email...
This time i attached the right files and double checked it. 
sorry...

btw: how many developers are working on this project right now ?

ps : the link to KDE-look in the site points to kde-lok.org and is broken.


Shlomi.


Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
> David Mills wrote:
> > Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
> > >The files kleardock.h and kleardock.cpp are attached.
> > >
> > >Note 1: attached files are not patches but whole files - just add them
> > > to the source folder and replace the older ones, i couldn't diff to CVS
> > > for some reason, probabely server problem =\ ... sorry.
>
> i reattached fixed files to this message.
>
> > >Note 2: it crashes while zooming the last icon - i'll try to fix it
> > > later.
>
> i fixed that problem. (and some other issues my code had)
>
> The changes I've made make the icon zooming much smoother while cursor
> moves over the icons and i like it better this way, however, maybe some
> people would prefer the old style (?).
>
> > Cool, I'll add it in, I suppose its been done to the latest cvs...
>
> yes, it's based on last CVS.
>
> > >Nice work, i really like the idea .. :)
> > >
> > >but the code is very messy IMO =\
> > >needs a little cleanup.
> >
> > Tell me about it, it was even worse when we got hold of it, the only
> > real solution is slowley rewriting the whole thing, which is what I'm
> > doing atm (the paint event has been redone for example)
>
> Good, that's the right thing to do right now.
> This code needs a rewrite asap. It'll get difficult to maintain it in the
> future.
>
> > >Regards,
> > >Shlomi Loubaton.
> >
> > btw. If you want to help out more with the project, send me a mail so
> > that I can arrange cvs access for you, I'd need your sf user name for
> > that
>
> my sf username : shlomil
> i can't tell how much i can help in the project. I tend to get very busy
> lately but I'd like to help more since I like smooth-zooming icons on my
> desktop and i don't like using superkaramba.
>
> > David

Re: [Kleardock-user] smoother zoom for kleardock

[Shlomi L. <lou...@01...>]

David Mills wrote:
> Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
> >The files kleardock.h and kleardock.cpp are attached.
> >
> >Note 1: attached files are not patches but whole files - just add them to
> > the source folder and replace the older ones, i couldn't diff to CVS for
> > some reason, probabely server problem =\ ... sorry.

i reattached fixed files to this message.

> >
> >Note 2: it crashes while zooming the last icon - i'll try to fix it later.

i fixed that problem. (and some other issues my code had)

The changes I've made make the icon zooming much smoother while cursor moves 
over the icons and i like it better this way, however, maybe some people 
would prefer the old style (?). 

>
> Cool, I'll add it in, I suppose its been done to the latest cvs...

yes, it's based on last CVS.

> >Nice work, i really like the idea .. :)
> >
> >but the code is very messy IMO =\
> >needs a little cleanup.
>
> Tell me about it, it was even worse when we got hold of it, the only
> real solution is slowley rewriting the whole thing, which is what I'm
> doing atm (the paint event has been redone for example)

Good, that's the right thing to do right now.
This code needs a rewrite asap. It'll get difficult to maintain it in the 
future.

>
> >Regards,
> >Shlomi Loubaton.
>
> btw. If you want to help out more with the project, send me a mail so
> that I can arrange cvs access for you, I'd need your sf user name for that

my sf username : shlomil
i can't tell how much i can help in the project. I tend to get very busy 
lately but I'd like to help more since I like smooth-zooming icons on my 
desktop and i don't like using superkaramba.

>
> David

[Kleardock-user] smoother zoom for kleardock

[Shlomi L. <lou...@01...>]

The files kleardock.h and kleardock.cpp are attached.

Note 1: attached files are not patches but whole files - just add them to the 
source folder and replace the older ones, i couldn't diff to CVS for some 
reason, probabely server problem =\ ... sorry.

Note 2: it crashes while zooming the last icon - i'll try to fix it later.



Nice work, i really like the idea .. :)

but the code is very messy IMO =\
needs a little cleanup.



Regards,
Shlomi Loubaton.

[Kleardock-user] [kleardock-user]test

[David M. <d....@ti...>]

This is to test that the list is working, please disgard

Thanks

David