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From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2015-04-19 09:54:43
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Hi On 19.04.2015 10:38, Mossroy wrote: > I'm another contributor of Evopedia (I mainly developed the Firefox OS > port). > I share what Christian said here (we discussed it together before > sending the email). > See my few comments in the text below. > > Le 18/04/2015 13:37, Emmanuel Engelhart a écrit : >> The Kiwix team, of course, knows about the Evopedia project which is a >> really interesting and good software from many point-of-views (from my >> personal point-of-view, your work around FFOS or Qt is in particular of >> interest). >> >> It's sad to read that you face a (hopefully temporary) lack of >> resources, but this is a problem we know pretty well too. > > My personal opinion is that we should try to share > ideas/resources/code/maintenance in order to avoid spliting them between > 2 different projects that have more or less the same goals. > We both use Free Software licenses, which should help sharing code. > > I can not say if this "merge" might work or even be worth it. > But I think it's worth trying. Yes, I agree. Kiwix, as a project, already faced a similar situation in the past with the project Moulinwiki. To my opinion, the start&important point is tech. collaboration. For the rest, this is like a Mayonnaise, it works or it doesn't... >> FFOS is from our point of view probably the most promising development >> in the mobile sector since a long time. We are really interesting by >> having a Kiwix version for FFOS. That said we don't have invested a lot >> of time until now on it. We were in touch with someone who had done a >> ZIM reader in javascript and this was working. The problem was the >> performance... but we have already in mind a few improvements which >> should be able to improve the situation. > Whoa, that's pretty interesting. Could you please point us to this > javascript implementation? This was the first question of Christian too! The answer is that the javascript was generated from the C/C++ code directly and the code was not put online (but we are in touch with the developer). > There also are performance issues in the javascript implementation of > Evopedia. The main concern is to have a fast javascript decompresser > that can work on small chunks. Yes. Challenging and at the same time really interesting topic. >> To conclude: FFOS is a really strategic move we have to do, but for now >> and in 2015, there is no real plan to work on that. > I also think that Firefox OS is a great platform. > IMHO, it makes sense to have an offline wikipedia reader on cheap > smartphones in emerging countries (where people will more likely be > using a smartphone than a standard computer). And it's precisely the > initial market target of Firefox OS. 100% agree. > Plus an HTML5/javascript application might be run on virtually any > platform (PC, Mac, iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry etc), through > Apache Cordova when necessary. Although this idea looks brilliant from the theoretical point-of-view, the reality of the implementation is IMO more complicated. For example the Wikimedia Foundation has abandoned that way (Cordova as mobile cross-platform solution). After thinking pretty much about this, our approach at Kiwix, for now, is to have as much as possible code in C++ and then use native SDK for the UI. Of course this does not work for FFOS. The only signal I see that we might change this approach in the future is he success of an application like PopcornTime. Popcorn time seems to have achieved to build a successful cross-platform (for both desktop&mbile) app based on javascript (but I guess part of the core is still binary). >> Like you probably know, Kiwix is mostly a volunteer driven project, so >> anybody is more than welcome, in particular for this kind of features >> are really important ones. > I'll contribute as much as I can. > In particular, I might be of some help about Firefox OS (I'm a bit > involved in this community). > But, in the short term, I unfortunately won't have a lot of time to code. Yes, it looks like FFOS is a good entry point for collaboration. Thx for your nice email. Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Mossroy <mo...@mo...> - 2015-04-19 09:05:14
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Hi, Thanks Emmanuel for your welcoming answer. I'm another contributor of Evopedia (I mainly developed the Firefox OS port). I share what Christian said here (we discussed it together before sending the email). See my few comments in the text below. Le 18/04/2015 13:37, Emmanuel Engelhart a écrit : > The Kiwix team, of course, knows about the Evopedia project which is a > really interesting and good software from many point-of-views (from my > personal point-of-view, your work around FFOS or Qt is in particular of > interest). > > It's sad to read that you face a (hopefully temporary) lack of > resources, but this is a problem we know pretty well too. My personal opinion is that we should try to share ideas/resources/code/maintenance in order to avoid spliting them between 2 different projects that have more or less the same goals. We both use Free Software licenses, which should help sharing code. I can not say if this "merge" might work or even be worth it. But I think it's worth trying. > FFOS is from our point of view probably the most promising development > in the mobile sector since a long time. We are really interesting by > having a Kiwix version for FFOS. That said we don't have invested a lot > of time until now on it. We were in touch with someone who had done a > ZIM reader in javascript and this was working. The problem was the > performance... but we have already in mind a few improvements which > should be able to improve the situation. Whoa, that's pretty interesting. Could you please point us to this javascript implementation? There also are performance issues in the javascript implementation of Evopedia. The main concern is to have a fast javascript decompresser that can work on small chunks. > To conclude: FFOS is a really strategic move we have to do, but for now > and in 2015, there is no real plan to work on that. I also think that Firefox OS is a great platform. IMHO, it makes sense to have an offline wikipedia reader on cheap smartphones in emerging countries (where people will more likely be using a smartphone than a standard computer). And it's precisely the initial market target of Firefox OS. Plus an HTML5/javascript application might be run on virtually any platform (PC, Mac, iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry etc), through Apache Cordova when necessary. > Like you probably know, Kiwix is mostly a volunteer driven project, so > anybody is more than welcome, in particular for this kind of features > are really important ones. I'll contribute as much as I can. In particular, I might be of some help about Firefox OS (I'm a bit involved in this community). But, in the short term, I unfortunately won't have a lot of time to code. Regards, Mossroy |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2015-04-18 11:39:07
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Dear Christian Thank you for writing to us! On 18.04.2015 12:44, chr...@ev... wrote: > I'm writing on behalf of the developers of Evopedia, another free and > open source offline Wikipedia reader: http://www.evopedia.info > Its goals are more or less aligned with those of Kiwix, but it uses > another archive format. > The project is currently stale, mainly because of a lack of > contributors, and we would actually like to recommend Kiwix as a perfect > alternative to Evopedia to our community. The Kiwix team, of course, knows about the Evopedia project which is a really interesting and good software from many point-of-views (from my personal point-of-view, your work around FFOS or Qt is in particular of interest). It's sad to read that you face a (hopefully temporary) lack of resources, but this is a problem we know pretty well too. > But still, some community members value some features of Evopedia which > Kiwix does not provide (to our knowledge): > 1. Evopedia scans Wikipedia articles for geo coordinates and can > show "articles around you" and some versions also support a map of articles We want this feature too, here is the corresponding ticket: https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/feature-requests/910/ Here would be an approach to achieve to do that in a clean manner: * Allow search by geo-localisation in ZIM file, ie. improve the ZIM-spec and zimlib: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96470 (***) * Fix mwoffliner to correctly deal with geo-coordinates: https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/feature-requests/846/ (*) * Fix zimwriterfs to correctly parse HTML <head> geo-coordinates (*) * Finally implement the "nearby" function in Kiwix for Android (*) The map of article should work out-of-the-box then (we just need to use openlayer or similar). > 2. Evopedia has a javascript implementation of the archive format > reader, which allows to run it on Firefox OS (see > https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/evopedia, and the source code: > https://github.com/mossroy/evopedia-html5). It should allow to run it on > virtually any device/OS with the same code (through Apache Cordova: it > has been only partially implemented so far). FFOS is from our point of view probably the most promising development in the mobile sector since a long time. We are really interesting by having a Kiwix version for FFOS. That said we don't have invested a lot of time until now on it. We were in touch with someone who had done a ZIM reader in javascript and this was working. The problem was the performance... but we have already in mind a few improvements which should be able to improve the situation. To conclude: FFOS is a really strategic move we have to do, but for now and in 2015, there is no real plan to work on that. > What are your thoughts on these features? Are they planned (or perhaps > even already present)? If no, what would you think about adding them to > Kiwix? If we find some time ourselves, would you support us adding those > features? Like you probably know, Kiwix is mostly a volunteer driven project, so anybody is more than welcome, in particular for this kind of features are really important ones. Kind regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: <chr...@ev...> - 2015-04-18 11:01:57
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Hi all, I'm writing on behalf of the developers of Evopedia, another free and open source offline Wikipedia reader: http://www.evopedia.info Its goals are more or less aligned with those of Kiwix, but it uses another archive format. The project is currently stale, mainly because of a lack of contributors, and we would actually like to recommend Kiwix as a perfect alternative to Evopedia to our community. But still, some community members value some features of Evopedia which Kiwix does not provide (to our knowledge): 1. Evopedia scans Wikipedia articles for geo coordinates and can show "articles around you" and some versions also support a map of articles 2. Evopedia has a javascript implementation of the archive format reader, which allows to run it on Firefox OS (see https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/evopedia, and the source code: https://github.com/mossroy/evopedia-html5). It should allow to run it on virtually any device/OS with the same code (through Apache Cordova: it has been only partially implemented so far). What are your thoughts on these features? Are they planned (or perhaps even already present)? If no, what would you think about adding them to Kiwix? If we find some time ourselves, would you support us adding those features? Best regards, Christian. |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2015-03-28 15:26:23
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Hi Dattaz, a volunteer developer, has developed a python script to quickly build a ZIM file from a Youtube Channel or Playlist. The code is here: https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/other/ci/master/tree/youtube/ His work was inspired by our ZIM export of the TED talks and allows us to make off-line versions of a large collections of videos. We have already created a few demo files with youtube2zim: * http://download.kiwix.org/zim/other/bil-tunisia_ar_all_2015-03.zim * http://download.kiwix.org/zim/other/deus-ex-silicium_fr_all_2015-03.zim * http://download.kiwix.org/zim/other/universcience-tv_fr_all_2015-03.zim We have also a few improvements in view: like adding the support of Dailymotion or recreate the playlists in case of a whole channel snasphost. Wikimedia Commons is unfortunately still not well recognised as a platform to host videos. However, we have a project to make a ZIM file of the best Commons pictures. If you are interested please subscribe and/or award a token on this blocking task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87571 Thanks again to Dattaz for this really useful work. Kind regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2015-01-28 13:24:34
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Hi, A few people are currently working hard to release a first version of Kiwix for iOS. Most of the Kiwix users don't have this kind of devices which is more dedicated to wealthy people, but this is important to support iOS to have a "complete" portfolio. Unfortunately, we currently suffer of a lack of Apple devices: * devices (iPhone or iPad) with iOS7 or greater * OSX computers (for development purpose) not more than 3 years old. If you want to make an hardware donation or have a second hand devices you might sell for a cheap price, please let us - this would really help us a lot! Thank you in advance for your help. Kind regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2015-01-16 08:22:30
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Hi, May people with an Android KitKat device check if Kiwix for Android works well with the new ART runtime (a replacement for Dalvik)? http://source.android.com/devices/tech/dalvik/art.html This is pretty easy to check (if you have a KitKat device), here is a tutorial about how to activate the ART runtime: http://www.cultofandroid.com/52210/enable-art-android-4-4-kitkat/ Thank you in advance for your help! Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-12-24 12:31:36
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Dear Wikimedians After two years of waiting since last release, we are happy to finally release Kiwix 0.9. This version is dedicated to computers running Windows, OSX or GNU/Linux. The binaries are available here: http://download.kiwix.org/bin/0.9/ This new release does not bring new revolutionary features but focused on improving the user experience. An important work was done to polish the software and this is probably the biggest release we have ever done. You can find a detailed CHANGELOG at http://changelog.kiwix.org The software is already available online on Kiwix web site. Portable version were also repackaged to contain an up2date version of the software. More details at http://www.kiwix.org Like always, we appreciate feedbacks and reports: * http://forum.kiwix.org/ * http://reportbug.kiwix.org/ * http://requestfeature.kiwix.org/ Best regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-12-18 16:52:29
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Dear developers This year again, Kiwix is part of the Google Code-in project. Sponsored by Google, this project proposes to young developers to work on selected tasks to improve free softwares. Kiwix for Android was greatly improved in 2013 thanks to its participation to Google Code-in. That's why we wanted to be part again, with other Wikimedia projects, of the 2014 edition. We already propose a few tasks (and we continue to add task on a daily base), a few of them easy to complete. If you are less than 18 and have Java skills, this is for you. With more than 20.000 users you work won't be unnoticed! Join now: https://www.google-melange.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2014 Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-11-19 12:41:33
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Hi Jane On 19.11.2014 13:29, Jane Darnell wrote: > Great news! Are there any plans to harvest the images in these files, or > has that already been done? Pictures are of course available, for example see this book: http://library.kiwix.org/gutenberg_mul_all_2014-11/A/The%20Children%27s%20Book%20of%20Birds.41141.html Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Jane D. <ja...@gm...> - 2014-11-19 12:29:12
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Great news! Are there any plans to harvest the images in these files, or has that already been done? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart <ke...@ki...> wrote: > Hi, > > The Kiwix team is happy to release the whole Project Gutenberg ( > http://www.gutenberg.org/) library in a ZIM format: > http://download.kiwix.org/zim/gutenberg/gutenberg_mul_all_ > 2014-11.zim.torrent. We also provide a few language specific versions > here http://download.kiwix.org/zim/gutenberg. > > This file is dedicated to an offline usage (no connection to Internet) and > it readable with Kiwix (http://www.kiwix.org). This allows anybody with a > computer or a smartphone to own his own copy of this 50.000 books big > library. You can also make it available for read to other people on your > network, they only need a web browser. > > In this ZIM file, you will find all the books available in HTML (directly > readable), but also in EPUB (and time to time in PDF). We have created a > custom user interface which is really simple to use: in a few clicks you > can find your book, read it or download it. What is also unique is that > Kiwix proposes a fulltext search engine over all books content. You can see > by yourself using this demonstration web site: http://library.kiwix.org/ > gutenberg_mul_all_2014-11/ > > Most of the work was done during a week long hackathon in Lyon, France by > four Kiwix volunteer developers. This hackathon was funded by the Fondation > Orange with the administrative help of Framasoft and Wikimedia CH. The > Fondation Orange is the first beneficiary of this work and use it already > for its own deployments in Africa. > > The solution to build this ZIM file is 100% free software and is available > here https://github.com/kiwix/gutenberg. This solution allows to release > easily new up2date versions. This is not a "one shot" project and we will > release periodically new version of this offline version of the Project > Gutenberg. > > We also plan to use this code base to aggregate other online PD/free books > libraries. Wikisource is one of the first we would love to add, this might > be done pretty easily as soon as an OPDS feed is available. > > We hope to see this work deployed by other third part organisation which > are on place where Internet is not available, expensive or censored. We > also need more developer (mostly Python) workforce for the next steps, a > hackathon with this purpose will hopefully be organised in 2015 (sponsor > needed). Last but not least: users, please report any problem here: > https://github.com/kiwix/gutenberg/issues > > Regards > Emmanuel > -- > Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more > * Web: http://www.kiwix.org > * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline > * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wik...@li... > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-11-19 12:18:50
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Hi, The Kiwix team is happy to release the whole Project Gutenberg (http://www.gutenberg.org/) library in a ZIM format: http://download.kiwix.org/zim/gutenberg/gutenberg_mul_all_2014-11.zim.torrent. We also provide a few language specific versions here http://download.kiwix.org/zim/gutenberg. This file is dedicated to an offline usage (no connection to Internet) and it readable with Kiwix (http://www.kiwix.org). This allows anybody with a computer or a smartphone to own his own copy of this 50.000 books big library. You can also make it available for read to other people on your network, they only need a web browser. In this ZIM file, you will find all the books available in HTML (directly readable), but also in EPUB (and time to time in PDF). We have created a custom user interface which is really simple to use: in a few clicks you can find your book, read it or download it. What is also unique is that Kiwix proposes a fulltext search engine over all books content. You can see by yourself using this demonstration web site: http://library.kiwix.org/gutenberg_mul_all_2014-11/ Most of the work was done during a week long hackathon in Lyon, France by four Kiwix volunteer developers. This hackathon was funded by the Fondation Orange with the administrative help of Framasoft and Wikimedia CH. The Fondation Orange is the first beneficiary of this work and use it already for its own deployments in Africa. The solution to build this ZIM file is 100% free software and is available here https://github.com/kiwix/gutenberg. This solution allows to release easily new up2date versions. This is not a "one shot" project and we will release periodically new version of this offline version of the Project Gutenberg. We also plan to use this code base to aggregate other online PD/free books libraries. Wikisource is one of the first we would love to add, this might be done pretty easily as soon as an OPDS feed is available. We hope to see this work deployed by other third part organisation which are on place where Internet is not available, expensive or censored. We also need more developer (mostly Python) workforce for the next steps, a hackathon with this purpose will hopefully be organised in 2015 (sponsor needed). Last but not least: users, please report any problem here: https://github.com/kiwix/gutenberg/issues Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-10-18 13:55:45
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Dear Adrian On 11.09.2014 10:35, Adrian Chaves wrote: >>>> Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports >>>> that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not >>>> working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can provide >>>> feedback about that at http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ >>> >>> Yes, please do so or better: open a new bug and provide all the >>> necessary to reproduce the bug. >> >> By appending "File:" to an image name, I got them displayed properly. >> It looks like an undocumented requirement rather than a bug. What >> would be the best place to document this? > > After further testing, it has nothing to do with the filename. It is actually links (a) around an image that prevent that image from being displayed. I'll open a bug report for this. I have closed your last bug today as it seems to be fixed with last version of zimwriterfs. Please let me know if you have further issues. Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-10-16 19:42:50
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Hi Manuel Late answer so you might have found the answer in the meantime. But you need the xapian-compact binary but I can not tell you in which package this is stored on your opensuse distribution. Regards Emmanuel On 06/23/2014 05:07 AM, manuel centeno wrote: > > hello I'm trying to compile kiwix but the problem I have is my opensuse > do not install this package "xapian-tools (debian wheezy)" > and this is what I get > "linux-mae0:/home/mariana # zypper in xapian-tools > Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata > ..........................................................................................................................[done] > Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache > ...............................................................................................................................[done] > Loading repository data... > Reading installed packages... > 'xapian-tools' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. > No provider of 'xapian-tools' found. > Resolving package dependencies... > > Nothing to do." > And / I really need to compile this aplication , /Thank you in advance > for the help. > -- > J M A C > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse > Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition > Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows > Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft > > > > _______________________________________________ > Kiwix-developer mailing list > Kiw...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-developer > |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-09-21 14:48:16
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Hi, We are almost ready to officially announce the release of a script allowing to create a ZIM files of the whole (or part of the) Project Gutenberg library: http://www.gutenberg.org/ We will in addition publish a collection of corresponding ZIM files. The piece of code In Python is available here: https://github.com/kiwix/gutenberg (use the master branch) If you are interested in that code, please test it and report any problem - if possible in the next days, so we get a chance to fix issues before the release. Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-09-19 12:59:12
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Hi Adrian Great, hope you finally have achieved to get a working ZIM file of your content. Regards Emmanuel On 15.09.2014 10:57, Adrian Chaves wrote: > Thanks. After your answer, I decided to debug the issue, I found out what the cause was and opened a bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/740/ > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Emmanuel Engelhart [mailto:ke...@ki...] > Enviado el: lunes, 15 de septiembre de 2014 9:39 > Para: Adrian Chaves; kiw...@li... > Asunto: Re: [Kiwix-developer] How long is it normal for zimwriterfs to spend on 118267 entries? > > Hi Adrian > > This is not normal at all. zimwriterfs is pretty fast and within a few dozen of minutes, the ZIM file should be ready. > > Regards > Emmanuel > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want excitement? > Manually upgrade your production database. > When you want reliability, choose Perforce > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kiwix-developer mailing list > Kiw...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-developer > -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-15 08:57:14
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Thanks. After your answer, I decided to debug the issue, I found out what the cause was and opened a bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/740/ -----Mensaje original----- De: Emmanuel Engelhart [mailto:ke...@ki...] Enviado el: lunes, 15 de septiembre de 2014 9:39 Para: Adrian Chaves; kiw...@li... Asunto: Re: [Kiwix-developer] How long is it normal for zimwriterfs to spend on 118267 entries? Hi Adrian This is not normal at all. zimwriterfs is pretty fast and within a few dozen of minutes, the ZIM file should be ready. Regards Emmanuel CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-09-15 07:39:07
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Hi Adrian This is not normal at all. zimwriterfs is pretty fast and within a few dozen of minutes, the ZIM file should be ready. Regards Emmanuel On 15.09.2014 09:22, Adrian Chaves wrote: > After successfully building a ZIM file from a subset of the HTML > rendering of our wiki, I put zimwriterfs to build a ZIM file from the > whole wiki content. It is actually the content of three different wikis, > which I wanted to build into a single ZIM file (since Kiwix does not > support inter-ZIM linking, and we have interwiki links between these > wikis). > > I started the process at 9:30 on Friday, and when I left at 18:00 the > build process was at: > > … > > Creating entry for favicon.ico > > sort 118267 directory entries (aid) > > remove invalid redirects from 118267 directory entries > > sort 118267 directory entries (url) > > set index > > translate redirect aid to index > > 118267 directory entries created > > create title index > > 118267 title index created > > create clusters > > 0% ready > > Packing data for examples/IE80Fixes.css > > Packing data for examples/IEFixes.js > > Packing data for examples/ajax.js > > Packing data for examples/commonContent.css > > Packing data for examples/commonElements.css > > Packing data for examples/commonInterface.css > > Packing data for examples/commonPrint.css > > Packing data for examples/config-cc.css > > Packing data for examples/config.css > > Packing data for examples/config.js > > Packing data for examples/feed.css > > Packing data for examples/geshi.css > > Packing data for examples/jquery-latest.js > > Packing data for examples/jquery.cookie.js > > Packing data for examples/jquery.delphionly.js > > Packing data for examples/jquery.fixedtableheader.js > > Packing data for examples/jquery.protected.js > > Packing data for examples/jquery.switch.js > > Packing data for examples/main.css > > At 9:00 today, Monday, the executable was still at the very same point, > so I stopped the executable. > > On Friday I noticed that the zimwriterfs process was not idle, it just > was at 0% processing most of the time but it regularly peaked, so I > assumed that it was just going page by page. Now, I am not sure, it > looks more like it got stuck somehow. > > So, I have two questions that I hope someone can answer for me: > > ·With that many entries (118267), is this normal? Or did the program got > stuck? How much time does it take to do this for a Wikipedia? > > ·Is there any trick that I can use to reduce the build time (e.g. to no > more than 4 hours)? If it got stuck, any suggestions on how to debug it? > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the > sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want excitement? > Manually upgrade your production database. > When you want reliability, choose Perforce > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Kiwix-developer mailing list > Kiw...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-developer > -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-15 07:22:44
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After successfully building a ZIM file from a subset of the HTML rendering of our wiki, I put zimwriterfs to build a ZIM file from the whole wiki content. It is actually the content of three different wikis, which I wanted to build into a single ZIM file (since Kiwix does not support inter-ZIM linking, and we have interwiki links between these wikis). I started the process at 9:30 on Friday, and when I left at 18:00 the build process was at: ... Creating entry for favicon.ico sort 118267 directory entries (aid) remove invalid redirects from 118267 directory entries sort 118267 directory entries (url) set index translate redirect aid to index 118267 directory entries created create title index 118267 title index created create clusters 0% ready Packing data for examples/IE80Fixes.css Packing data for examples/IEFixes.js Packing data for examples/ajax.js Packing data for examples/commonContent.css Packing data for examples/commonElements.css Packing data for examples/commonInterface.css Packing data for examples/commonPrint.css Packing data for examples/config-cc.css Packing data for examples/config.css Packing data for examples/config.js Packing data for examples/feed.css Packing data for examples/geshi.css Packing data for examples/jquery-latest.js Packing data for examples/jquery.cookie.js Packing data for examples/jquery.delphionly.js Packing data for examples/jquery.fixedtableheader.js Packing data for examples/jquery.protected.js Packing data for examples/jquery.switch.js Packing data for examples/main.css At 9:00 today, Monday, the executable was still at the very same point, so I stopped the executable. On Friday I noticed that the zimwriterfs process was not idle, it just was at 0% processing most of the time but it regularly peaked, so I assumed that it was just going page by page. Now, I am not sure, it looks more like it got stuck somehow. So, I have two questions that I hope someone can answer for me: * With that many entries (118267), is this normal? Or did the program got stuck? How much time does it take to do this for a Wikipedia? * Is there any trick that I can use to reduce the build time (e.g. to no more than 4 hours)? If it got stuck, any suggestions on how to debug it? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-11 08:40:29
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> > > Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports > > > that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not > > > working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can provide > > > feedback about that at http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ > > > > Yes, please do so or better: open a new bug and provide all the > > necessary to reproduce the bug. > > By appending "File:" to an image name, I got them displayed properly. > It looks like an undocumented requirement rather than a bug. What > would be the best place to document this? After further testing, it has nothing to do with the filename. It is actually links (a) around an image that prevent that image from being displayed. I'll open a bug report for this. -----Mensaje original----- De: Adrian Chaves Enviado el: jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 8:41 Para: Emmanuel Engelhart; kiw...@li... Asunto: Re: [Kiwix-developer] Paths to non-HTML files are messed up when creating a ZIM file with zimwriterfs > Regarding JS, this should work because we rewrite js "calls" in HTML. > What does not work well is the dynamic loading of content in JS > because we have no solution for now to rewrite correctly the > javascript. Please open a bug with a concrete example if you really have a problem. It turns out that it works, I had not tested it properly. This is awesome! > > Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports > > that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not > > working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can provide > > feedback about that at http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ > > Yes, please do so or better: open a new bug and provide all the > necessary to reproduce the bug. By appending "File:" to an image name, I got them displayed properly. It looks like an undocumented requirement rather than a bug. What would be the best place to document this? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Kiwix-developer mailing list Kiw...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-developer |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-11 06:41:13
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> Regarding JS, this should work because we rewrite js "calls" in HTML. > What does not work well is the dynamic loading of content in JS because > we have no solution for now to rewrite correctly the javascript. Please > open a bug with a concrete example if you really have a problem. It turns out that it works, I had not tested it properly. This is awesome! > > Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports > > that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not > > working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can > > provide feedback about that at > > http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ > > Yes, please do so or better: open a new bug and provide all the > necessary to reproduce the bug. By appending "File:" to an image name, I got them displayed properly. It looks like an undocumented requirement rather than a bug. What would be the best place to document this? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-09-10 18:45:36
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Hi Adrian On 10.09.2014 16:33, Adrian Chaves wrote: > I was using Kiwix 0.9.0 rc2, which was the version suggested on the main site. After reading an answer to the latest bug (about images not working), I installed the latest Windows build from http://download.kiwix.org/bin/0.9/ and CSS files are loading correctly (JavaScript files do not seem to be working that well, but that is not a concern for me right now). Yes, the specification of ZIM says that the URLs should be relative and that's what the zimwriterfs does now... but the fix on the reader side is only available in 0.9 final. Regarding JS, this should work because we rewrite js "calls" in HTML. What does not work well is the dynamic loading of content in JS because we have no solution for now to rewrite correctly the javascript. Please open a bug with a concrete example if you really have a problem. > Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can provide feedback about that at http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ Yes, please do so or better: open a new bug and provide all the necessary to reproduce the bug. Regards Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-10 14:34:22
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I was using Kiwix 0.9.0 rc2, which was the version suggested on the main site. After reading an answer to the latest bug (about images not working), I installed the latest Windows build from http://download.kiwix.org/bin/0.9/ and CSS files are loading correctly (JavaScript files do not seem to be working that well, but that is not a concern for me right now). Although the reporter of the bug about images not working reports that they do work on the latest version on Linux, they are not working on the latest version of Windows for me. But I can provide feedback about that at http://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/bugs/736/ So, that's it as far as this thread goes :) -----Mensaje original----- De: Adrian Chaves Enviado el: miércoles, 10 de septiembre de 2014 15:22 Para: kiw...@li... Asunto: [Kiwix-developer] Paths to non-HTML files are messed up when creating a ZIM file with zimwriterfs I'm using the zimwriterfs tool (built from the repositories) to generate a ZIM file from a folder of HTML files. The script seems to work perfectly, with the exception that paths to non-HTML files (images, CSS files and JavaScript files) are messed up. I've reduced the sources to the minimum, to try to reproduce the issue loading CSS files. So I have the following tree: - source-folder/ - index.html - css/ - main.css - media/ - icon.png index.html: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> <title>Help</title> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css/main.css"></link> </head> <body> <p>Text.</p> </body> </html> main.css: p { font-weight: bold; } Then I run: ./kiwix-other/zimwriterfs/zimwriterfs --welcome=index.html --favicon=media/icon.png --language=en --title=Help --description=Description --creator=Creator --publisher=Punlisher source-folder help-$(date +"%s").zim The paragraph of the only page of the resulting ZIM file does not use bold font. If I put the CSS in the page itself it does work. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Kiwix-developer mailing list Kiw...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-developer |
From: Adrian C. <Adr...@em...> - 2014-09-10 13:36:15
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I'm using the zimwriterfs tool (built from the repositories) to generate a ZIM file from a folder of HTML files. The script seems to work perfectly, with the exception that paths to non-HTML files (images, CSS files and JavaScript files) are messed up. I've reduced the sources to the minimum, to try to reproduce the issue loading CSS files. So I have the following tree: - source-folder/ - index.html - css/ - main.css - media/ - icon.png index.html: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> <title>Help</title> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css/main.css"></link> </head> <body> <p>Text.</p> </body> </html> main.css: p { font-weight: bold; } Then I run: ./kiwix-other/zimwriterfs/zimwriterfs --welcome=index.html --favicon=media/icon.png --language=en --title=Help --description=Description --creator=Creator --publisher=Punlisher source-folder help-$(date +"%s").zim The paragraph of the only page of the resulting ZIM file does not use bold font. If I put the CSS in the page itself it does work. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. |
From: Emmanuel E. <ke...@ki...> - 2014-09-06 15:28:10
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Hi Gabriel, as far as I know (this problem was already reported in the past) this is an error from the antivirus. Regards Emmanuel On 09/06/2014 03:03 AM, Gabriel Thullen wrote: > Hi Emmanuel, > > I tried to install the latest Kiwix for Windows, and my antivirus > (Avira) moved the file to quarantine, reporting the > "TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen5" trojan. > http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-summary-product/tid/6528/tlang/en > > What is going on ? > > Gabe > > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart <ke...@ki... > <mailto:ke...@ki...>> wrote: > > Hi > > At the Selenium Conference, a Kiwix bug hunting party has reported > around 100 bugs. > https://github.com/Bug-Bash/selenium-kiwix/issues?page=1&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue > > We need help to: > * Confirm the bugs with a recent version of Kiwix > http://download.kiwix.org/bin/0.9/ > * Link the bug with the upstrean bugtracker tickets at sourceforge > (http://bugs.kiwix.org) > * Maybe fix bug and propose patches. > > Thank for your help > Emmanuel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Slashdot TV. > Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. > http://tv.slashdot.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Kiwix-testing mailing list > Kiw...@li... > <mailto:Kiw...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kiwix-testing > > |