From: dittigas <dit...@wh...> - 2003-07-22 20:11:02
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I'm currently working with 1.52b and noticed couple of issue which didn't exist in previous versions. It is not possible to save any text in hebrew and I guess it mught be a problem for other languages as well. I've tried setting LANG for all he_IL, he_IL.cp1255, he_IL.UTF-8 with no luck at all. I gett "?" for the original hebrew text. Kile supported hebrew perfectly before. In regard to the planed move to Kate. Kate does not support BiDi text, and beeing a "programmers editor" it will probably never will. So far what ever the text widget you use for Kile allows Hebrew speaking users to work RTL automaticaly upon changing the keyboard to hebrew. Will appriciate if you could take this into considration. Thanks and a great job! |
From: Jeroen W. <Jer...@kd...> - 2003-07-23 07:13:05
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On Tuesday 22 July 2003 20:09, dittigas wrote: > =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9D =D7=A9=D7=9C=D7=99=D7=A9=D7=99 22 =D7=99=D7=95= =D7=9C=D7=99 2003, 23:16, Jeroen Wijnhout =D7=9B=D7=AA=D7=91: > > > Kile supported hebrew perfectly before. > > > > It still does :-) > > Well ... I was staring at the screen for ages ... and didn't see this o= ne > :( thanks alot. It of course works. You're not the first to miss this list and probably not the last. :-) Wit= h=20 kate as the editor there will be a regular menu to select the encoding. > > I've heard rumors about BiDi support for kate, so when that is > > implemented in kate, you can also use it in Kile. > > Will you be moving on to kate soon e.g. BEFORE the BidI stuff added? We already switched to kate (in CVS), so the next release will contain ka= te as=20 the editor. I'm pretty sure that this will be before the BiDi is implemen= ted,=20 but that really depends on when kile-1.6 is released. Anyway if you are u= sing=20 a version of Kate that supports BiDi, Kile will automatically make use of= it. > > Wondering if there's any easy way to define a hebrew document using Kil= e > without having to tweak things up. Using utf-8 as far as I know require= s > modifying uni-5 def manually. Is this the case? Is there a nicer way to= do > this? Granted Kile uses latex/elatex I guess that would be the case or = am I > wrong, again .... ? I'm not sure what you mean, but you should be able to display Hebrew=20 characters with the following encodings: ISO 8859-8, UTF-8 and CP-862. If you want LaTeX you automatically process the Hebrew characters correct= ly,=20 then there are two things: 1) The encoding of the file, standard TeX only understands ASCII as far = as I=20 know, I think elatex does understand UTF-8. So elatex can read UTF-8 file= s. 2) But is also needs to be told how to handle the characters, for this y= ou=20 can use the package inputenc, put \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}, for example, in the preamble to display Hebr= ew=20 characters (check for yourself if this is the right syntax). If you want the \usepackge[]{} to be inserted automatically, you can set = the=20 input encoding in Settings->Configure Kile->General->Input encoding, then= if=20 you select a template (File->New) the \usepackege[]{} is automatically ad= ded=20 in the preamble. I'm not sure if I understood your question though. best, Jeroen |
From: Jeroen W. <Jer...@kd...> - 2003-07-23 07:21:58
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On Tuesday 22 July 2003 20:19, dittigas wrote: > =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9D =D7=A9=D7=9C=D7=99=D7=A9=D7=99 22 =D7=99=D7=95= =D7=9C=D7=99 2003, 23:16, =D7=9B=D7=AA=D7=91=D7=AA: > Sorry for imposing again, I keep geeting an error message about a LOG f= ile > missing when creating a new document. Any idea what am I doing wrong? U= sing > elatex for processing Hebrew documents. Exactly when does this happen? After you do File->New, or after you run=20 elatex? Kile should only complain for a missing LOG file if you press Vie= w=20 Log or Next/Previous Error. Run elatex on file.tex, then there should be file.log file in the same=20 directory, if not, I'm confused, very confused. best, Jeroen |
From: dittigas <dit...@wh...> - 2003-07-24 12:53:58
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=D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9D =D7=A8=D7=91=D7=99=D7=A2=D7=99 23 =D7=99=D7=95=D7= =9C=D7=99 2003, 09:15, Jeroen Wijnhout =D7=9B=D7=AA=D7=91: > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 20:19, dittigas wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD=C2=91=EF=BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=95=EF=BF=BD=C2=9D =EF=BF=BD= =C2=A9=EF=BF=BD=C2=9C=EF=BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=A9=EF=BF=BD=C2=99 22 =EF= =BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=95=EF=BF=BD=C2=9C=EF=BF=BD=C2=99 2003, 23:16, =EF= =BF=BD=C2=9B=EF=BF=BD=C3=97=EF=BF=BD=C2=91=EF=BF=BD=C3=97: > > Sorry for imposing again, I keep geeting an error message about a LOG > > file missing when creating a new document. Any idea what am I doing > > wrong? Using elatex for processing Hebrew documents. > > Exactly when does this happen? After you do File->New, or after you run > elatex? Kile should only complain for a missing LOG file if you press View > Log or Next/Previous Error. > I was checking again it seems to only happen if I have files names with spa= ces=20 in them. Otherwize it is OK. Console Message: Launched: cd '/home/dittigas' && elatex -interaction=3Dnonstopmode DELM Ne= w=20 =46ile.tex=20 Viewing... And then I get a popup saying LOG was not find, check file permissions. Also, the "Automaticly select file name extesnion" feature does not work, i= t=20 will save as dtx but elatex will look for *tex unles I change the string in= =20 the confgiuration menu.=20 btw I tried saving the files as *.tex as well and I get the same message if= =20 the filename as spaces. Thanks > Run elatex on file.tex, then there should be file.log file in the same > directory, if not, I'm confused, very confused. > > best, > Jeroen |
From: Jeroen W. <Jer...@kd...> - 2003-07-24 13:04:24
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On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:16, dittigas wrote: > =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9D =D7=A8=D7=91=D7=99=D7=A2=D7=99 23 =D7=99=D7=95= =D7=9C=D7=99 2003, 09:15, Jeroen Wijnhout =D7=9B=D7=AA=D7=91: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 20:19, dittigas wrote: > > > =EF=BF=BD=C2=91=EF=BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=95=EF=BF=BD=C2=9D =EF=BF= =BD=C2=A9=EF=BF=BD=C2=9C=EF=BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=A9=EF=BF=BD=C2=99 22 = =EF=BF=BD=C2=99=EF=BF=BD=C2=95=EF=BF=BD=C2=9C=EF=BF=BD=C2=99 2003, 23:16,= =EF=BF=BD=C2=9B=EF=BF=BD=C3=97=EF=BF=BD=C2=91=EF=BF=BD=C3=97: > > > Sorry for imposing again, I keep geeting an error message about a L= OG > > > file missing when creating a new document. Any idea what am I doing > > > wrong? Using elatex for processing Hebrew documents. > > > > Exactly when does this happen? After you do File->New, or after you r= un > > elatex? Kile should only complain for a missing LOG file if you press > > View Log or Next/Previous Error. > > I was checking again it seems to only happen if I have files names with > spaces in them. Otherwize it is OK. > > Console Message: > > Launched: cd '/home/dittigas' && elatex -interaction=3Dnonstopmode DEL= M New > File.tex > Viewing... Did you do a QuickBuild? That would explain why it looks for the LOG file= in=20 the first place.=20 The fact that it doesn't find the file is a bug, I'll fix that soon. thanks, Jeroen |