Re: [Kidbasic-devel] new branch

[Ian L. <dr...@gm...>]

Cheers Tony,

I like that menu as you have it laid out, with the submenus for
printing, etc.  While these are requested features, I just don't see
them being used that frequently where hiding them in a menu would be a
usability problem.

> I just find that whenever you say something won't happen it usually
> does happen :-)

This has happened to me several times on this project already :-)

-Ian


On 11/14/06, tony007 <sup...@go...> wrote:
> Cheers Ian.
>
>  I agree that the toolbars make the window look cluttered and think your
> right to disable them by default. I think the challenge is to make the
> functionality easily available and to make the association with the relevant
> view clear whilst not cluttering up the interface and/or deviating too far
> from standard UI practises.
>  The one idea I had about putting them in menus but still making the
> association clear was to create a menu for each view and putting the items
> under that. The only problem with that is what do you do if/when you end up
> with a lot of views which will mean a lot of toplevel menu items. So I
> didn't initially do this not because I think it's a bad idea, just because I
> thought there might be a better solution ( which hadn't been thought of yet
> ). Perhaps an alternative would be that under the View menu we have an item
> for each view which could then have subitems for each function. i.e.
>
>  View
>     |_ Toolbars
>     |_ Text Output
>     |     |_ Copy
>     |     |_ Paste
>     |     |_ etc...
>     |_ Graphics Output
>           |_ Copy
>           |_ etc...
>
>  That way there is no risk of having too many menu items in the menu bar. Of
> course it is probably unlikely there will be so many views that this would
> happen, I just find that whenever you say something won't happen it usually
> does happen :-)
>
>  tony
>
>
>
> On 13/11/06, Ian Larsen <dr...@gm...> wrote:
> > Tony,
> >
> > What you've done is great and I've merged it in to the main trunk.
> >
> > I do think the toolbars on the output windows make things a bit
> > cluttered, especially for people using lower resolution screens.  I've
> > disabled them by default.  I think that maybe those functions would be
> > better included in their own menu, since I don't think that printing,
> > etc. if going to be as common a function as "Run," for example.
> >
> > I'm thinking about eliminating the pushbuttons at the bottom of the
> > window and adding them as toolbar options, instead.  That will leave a
> > bit of extra space for the editor text.
> >
> > -Ian
> >
> > On 11/12/06, tony007 < sup...@go...> wrote:
> > > I've created a 'tony' branch and committed revision 115. The comment for
> the
> > > commit lists most of what has been done but I wanted to list some other
> > > relevant details.
> > >
> > > Commit comment-
> > > * Added new files to allow toolbars to be used in dock windows.
> > > * Moved initialisation code from main() to MainWindow()
> > > * Added toolbars to main window, text output and graphics output windows
> > > * Added support for copy, paste and printing to each widget
> > >
> > > Plus-
> > >  1. Toolbar buttons just use text at the moment until there are some
> nice
> > > graphics to use as the icons.
> > >     - I've sent an email to some friends of mine who have experience
> with
> > > this type of thing to see if any of them would like to help.
> > > 2. Only built and tested on Debian - 2.6.17
> > >
> > > tony
> > >
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