From: jb <jb...@kd...> - 2009-05-20 10:32:35
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Hi everyone. As you probably noted, a new MLT version 0.4.0 was released. It does not work with the latest Kdenlive release, so I think we need to make a new Kdenlive release soon. I will try to see if there are some major bugs around, and hope that we can make the release around the 28th of May. The new features (already in svn) will be: * Much improved DVD Wizard, with support for chapters, multiple buttons in menu and 16:9 support, with buttons for easy previewing and burning the DVD image. * New transcoding feature, allows you to convert a clip from one format to another in a few clicks (profiles can be configures in Kdenlive Settings dialog), but it still needs some work to improve loading / saving of profiles and do mass conversions. Another thing is the new icon status. There were not too many votes, but it looks like many people think that a film strip is not really appropriate for today's video applications. I cannot spend too much time on this icon stuff, so what should we do: 1- do nothing 2- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with the usual icon and launch another wider icon contest 3- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa 4- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa and launch another wider icon contest regards jb |
From: Markus <kam...@we...> - 2009-05-20 11:29:42
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I vote for #4. As I said in an earlier mail, I think the contest should be announced via KDE News (maybe along with the release announcement). Regarding translations: I hope this mail ensures no further string changes until the release to have time to update the translations. Markus Am Mittwoch 20 Mai 2009 12:32:19 schrieb jb: > I cannot spend too much time on this icon stuff, so what should we do: > > 1- do nothing > 2- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with the usual icon and launch another wider > icon contest > 3- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa > 4- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa and launch another > wider icon contest |
From: Zarko P. <zar...@gm...> - 2009-05-20 11:46:37
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I vote for #4, its seems to be reasonable to me.... > > I cannot spend too much time on this icon stuff, so what should we do: > > > > 1- do nothing > > 2- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with the usual icon and launch another wider > > icon contest > > 3- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa > > 4- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa and launch > another > > wider icon contest > > > |
From: Markus <kam...@we...> - 2009-05-20 13:21:02
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Just FYI: I just merged all new strings into the translation files and also already partially updated the German translation. I think with the new Kdenlive release expected at May 28, we should finish updating the translations by Mai 27. Markus |
From: amir s. <am...@ne...> - 2009-05-20 14:22:46
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regarding the icon, i think the best way to proceed is to ask the oxygen icon team to create a new icon for kdenlive. Nuno Pinheiro (http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com) who is one of the team, made a few icon for oss projects using kde and I'm sure he will help us with a professional looking icon.. and yes, the film strip is dead.... long live the solid state. amir jb wrote: > Hi everyone. > > As you probably noted, a new MLT version 0.4.0 was released. It does not work > with the latest Kdenlive release, so I think we need to make a new Kdenlive > release soon. > > I will try to see if there are some major bugs around, and hope that we can > make the release around the 28th of May. > > The new features (already in svn) will be: > > * Much improved DVD Wizard, with support for chapters, multiple buttons in > menu and 16:9 support, with buttons for easy previewing and burning the DVD > image. > > * New transcoding feature, allows you to convert a clip from one format to > another in a few clicks (profiles can be configures in Kdenlive Settings > dialog), but it still needs some work to improve loading / saving of profiles > and do mass conversions. > > Another thing is the new icon status. There were not too many votes, but it > looks like many people think that a film strip is not really appropriate for > today's video applications. > > I cannot spend too much time on this icon stuff, so what should we do: > > 1- do nothing > 2- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with the usual icon and launch another wider icon > contest > 3- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa > 4- release Kdenlive 0.7.-4 with Icon from Alberto Villa and launch another > wider icon contest > > regards > jb > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables > unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine > for externally facing server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
From: Markus <kam...@we...> - 2009-05-20 15:48:08
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The Oxygen team should concentrate on adding missing icons, not creating new icons for apps that already have nice looking new icons (the ones that were already created). Who cares whether celluloid film is dead or not? It works as an icon. Let's go with proposal #4 and prepare and icon contest for the 0.7.4 release. Am Mittwoch 20 Mai 2009 15:37:17 schrieb amir sher: > regarding the icon, i think the best way to proceed is to ask the oxygen > icon team to create a new icon for kdenlive. Nuno Pinheiro > (http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com) who is one of the team, made a few > icon for oss projects using kde and I'm sure he will help us with a > professional looking icon.. and yes, the film strip is dead.... long > live the solid state. > > amir |
From: amir s. <am...@ne...> - 2009-05-20 14:37:42
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please upload the attached updated Hebrew translation. thank you, amir |
From: Markus <kam...@we...> - 2009-05-20 16:06:08
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You should get a SourceForge account and ask JB for commit access. Then you can update the translation whenever you want. Am Mittwoch 20 Mai 2009 16:37:14 schrieb amir sher: > please upload the attached updated Hebrew translation. > thank you, > amir |
From: el j. d. <elj...@gm...> - 2009-05-20 14:48:23
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> the film strip is dead.... long live the solid state Sad. What better conveys the application's purpose though, that we can use as an icon? Plus everything is now solid state, we cannot use that idea as the basis for an icon. —Film strip is dead, apparently (but not the concept of individual frames) —Clapper board is ruled out due to trademark concerns —Video camera? —Colour test bars? —DV cassette? —My brother suggests a film strip that "turns into 1's and 0's" to signify the digital-ness |
From: Branislav N. <rud...@gm...> - 2009-05-20 15:03:30
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How about a jog/shuttle wheel? It's a fairly simple form. Not sure if it could be recognizable enough, though. 2009/5/20 el jefe delito <elj...@gm...> > > the film strip is dead.... long live the solid state > > > Sad. What better conveys the application's purpose though, that we can use > as an icon? Plus everything is now solid state, we cannot use that idea as > the basis for an icon. > > > —Film strip is dead, apparently (but not the concept of individual frames) > —Clapper board is ruled out due to trademark concerns > —Video camera? > —Colour test bars? > —DV cassette? > —My brother suggests a film strip that "turns into 1's and 0's" to signify > the digital-ness > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables > unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine > for externally facing server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > |
From: amir s. <am...@ne...> - 2009-05-20 15:19:56
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I relly like the 0 and 1, here's a mock up amir el jefe delito wrote: > > the film strip is dead.... long live the solid state > > > Sad. What better conveys the application's purpose though, that we can > use as an icon? Plus everything is now solid state, we cannot use that > idea as the basis for an icon. > > > —Film strip is dead, apparently (but not the concept of individual frames) > —Clapper board is ruled out due to trademark concerns > —Video camera? > —Colour test bars? > —DV cassette? > —My brother suggests a film strip that "turns into 1's and 0's" to > signify the digital-ness > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables > unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine > for externally facing server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel |
From: el j. d. <elj...@gm...> - 2009-05-20 15:51:18
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I really like your mockup but are those numbers to small and transparent to be seen easily? How about the right-half could be 'film strip' but made with binary art, like: 10111011101110111 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 10111011101110111 (note the above should be mono-spaced font) Just an idea, and I do like what you have in the mock up. The binary-film-strip may also have too-small of numbers to be useful/visible. |
From: Wayne <sha...@uk...> - 2009-05-20 16:49:09
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I think if we are to find a new icon, then we should keep the old icon until the new one is determined. It makes no sense to introduce a "temporary" icon only to change it immediately thereafter. It's like introducing a new icon with each new release. Wayne |
From: Dan D. <da...@de...> - 2009-05-20 17:26:31
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Wayne <sha...@uk...> wrote: > I think if we are to find a new icon, then we should > keep the old icon until the new one is determined. It > makes no sense to introduce a "temporary" icon only to > change it immediately thereafter. It's like introducing > a new icon with each new release. I have thought the same, but backed away from that because: a) temporary could be quite a while until something truly inspirational comes along that garners a fair amount of consensus because we have been kicking around this idea for a while to no resolution. b) the current icon is very stale looking especially in the areas of color and shape, which is why I suggested a freshening of the existing icon. c) it's just an icon and we have no corporate identity agenda I vote #4, and we should always be open to change (with due consideration, of course). Out of curiosity, what value does the Tango project and collaboration bring? That is a truly open question - I am not being sarcastic. -- +-DRD-+ |
From: Jean-Michel P. <jm...@po...> - 2009-05-21 10:22:05
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On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:48 -0500, el jefe delito wrote: > Sad. What better conveys the application's purpose though, that we can > use as an icon? Plus everything is now solid state, we cannot use that > idea as the basis for an icon. Wikimedia offers nice icons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Camera-video.svg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-video-x-generic.svg A camcorder icon would be nice. |
From: Zarko P. <zar...@gm...> - 2009-05-21 10:27:54
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These icons look like standard GNOME's icons... (to me, of course :) ) > > > Wikimedia offers nice icons: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Camera-video.svg > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-video-x-generic.svg > > A camcorder icon would be nice. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT > is a gathering of tech-side developers & brand creativity professionals. > Meet > the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, & > iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian > Group, R/GA, & Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
From: Jean-Michel P. <jm...@po...> - 2009-05-21 20:10:41
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On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:27 +0200, Zarko Pintar wrote: > These icons look like standard GNOME's icons... (to me, of course :) ) > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Camera-video.svg > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-video-x-generic.svg I like the idea of a camcorder. I don't have the skills to produce a workable SVN icon. |
From: Alberto V. <vil...@gm...> - 2009-05-26 09:47:24
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Dan Dennedy <da...@de...> wrote: > I vote #4, and we should always be open to change (with due > consideration, of course). so, who's winning? #4? i would have voted for #2, but probably dan is right. anyway... should i prepare the icon/logo for the 28th? unfortunately my laptop is under repair, again (...), but it should be back in two days, so i should be able to do that if needed (in the worst case i'd have it ready on the 29th) just tell me -- Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> |
From: jb <jb...@kd...> - 2009-05-26 14:15:58
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On Tuesday 26 May 2009 11:47:13 Alberto Villa wrote: > so, who's winning? #4? i would have voted for #2, but probably dan is > right. anyway... > should i prepare the icon/logo for the 28th? unfortunately my laptop > is under repair, again (...), but it should be back in two days, so i > should be able to do that if needed (in the worst case i'd have it > ready on the 29th) Yes, I think we can go with suggestion #4, there is still a lot bug fixing to do, so no problem if the icon only comes on the 29th. regards jb |
From: Alberto V. <vil...@gm...> - 2009-05-28 17:48:55
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM, jb <jb...@kd...> wrote: > Yes, I think we can go with suggestion #4, there is still a lot bug fixing to > do, so no problem if the icon only comes on the 29th. i'm deeply sorry, my laptop is not coming back this week i'll get it back on monday or wednesday... -- Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> |
From: Alberto V. <vil...@gm...> - 2009-05-29 21:23:56
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> wrote: > i'm deeply sorry, my laptop is not coming back this week > i'll get it back on monday or wednesday... yay, i have it! should i commit the images (i'll replace the current ones)? -- Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> |
From: jb <jb...@kd...> - 2009-05-29 22:43:45
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On Friday 29 May 2009 23:23:02 Alberto Villa wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> wrote: > > i'm deeply sorry, my laptop is not coming back this week > > i'll get it back on monday or wednesday... > > yay, i have it! should i commit the images (i'll replace the current ones)? Great. Yes, please. I will do the release tomorrow. regards jb |
From: Alberto V. <vil...@gm...> - 2009-05-30 08:45:00
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On Saturday 30 May 2009 00:43:05 jb wrote: > > yay, i have it! should i commit the images (i'll replace the current > > ones)? > > Great. > > Yes, please. I will do the release tomorrow. committed right now. i hope it's ok, i don't have experiences with icons and similar. also, i can't build kdenlive at the moment, so i cannot test them (but they should be ok) sorry for being so late -- Alberto Villa <vil...@gm...> |
From: Simon E. <sim...@gm...> - 2009-05-30 12:50:45
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I've tried to improve the visibility of the 32px icon, especially when it is resized to 16px (Task bar). What do you think? Keep old one? Take new one? Alberto Villa wrote: > On Saturday 30 May 2009 00:43:05 jb wrote: >>> yay, i have it! should i commit the images (i'll replace the current >>> ones)? >> Great. >> >> Yes, please. I will do the release tomorrow. > > committed right now. i hope it's ok, i don't have experiences with icons and > similar. also, i can't build kdenlive at the moment, so i cannot test them > (but they should be ok) > > sorry for being so late |
From: Markus <kam...@we...> - 2009-05-30 14:58:12
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I like your improvements. With 0.7.4 now released, I hope you and Alberto jointly submit it to the icon contest (if one is going to be held). Was a news item submitted to KDE Dot News? Am Samstag 30 Mai 2009 14:50:35 schrieb Simon Eugster: > I've tried to improve the visibility of the 32px icon, especially when it > is resized to 16px (Task bar). What do you think? Keep old one? Take new > one? > > Alberto Villa wrote: > > On Saturday 30 May 2009 00:43:05 jb wrote: > >>> yay, i have it! should i commit the images (i'll replace the current > >>> ones)? > >> > >> Great. > >> > >> Yes, please. I will do the release tomorrow. > > > > committed right now. i hope it's ok, i don't have experiences with icons > > and similar. also, i can't build kdenlive at the moment, so i cannot test > > them (but they should be ok) > > > > sorry for being so late |