From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-02-13 20:42:55
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey, before setting up a the campaign a few things might require further discussion: - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus all the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and also in June. In case we receive less money I could still work for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will then. What should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually I will be able to append a week or two in July but what about the rest? - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us to start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. Other perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone volunteers to design a t-shirt?). I am not that certain on whether the donation for feature thing really is a good idea. What do you guys think? - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can start soon. Your ideas? regards Till -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk85dZQACgkQzwEyz7QP6nR3CQCgnZkzgYa6Hxp+JwUuJuS47MVs Bz0AoJ34R/bf5QA+x+F2xWg8x2WMziGm =NkCw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-02-13 22:11:22
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On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey, > > before setting up a the campaign a few things might require further > discussion: > > - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus all I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. > the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and also > in June. In case we receive less money I could still work for some > time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will then. What > should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually I will be able > to append a week or two in July but what about the rest? I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you made etc. > - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: > 10$ donor listing on website > 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed with > us/me beforehand > 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature > 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me > beforehand) > 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) > well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us to > start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. Other > perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone volunteers to design and pay :-] Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as well. They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I mean) like 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor for this. Maybe we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts (thicker fabric). > a t-shirt?). > I am not that certain on whether the donation for feature thing really > is a good idea. What do you guys think? I think you'll have enough of work to do with refactoring already! > - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? Didn't we have marketing pros here on the list? :) Kdenlive is one of the best known video editors for Linux and is OpenSource (free!). It is aiming towards professional[?]/semi-professional users [please correct my grammar if necessary]. Lately a few important features have been added: * Proxy clips for fluent H.264 editing also on slow machines * Color scopes for color correction * [sorry, I'm really not up-to-date :( please add more] However we found that the architecture of kdenlive – which reaches back to 2002 – is not up-to-date anymore and discourages new developers to join our project. Additionally, new features take much longer to implement and contain more bugs than they should. This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the bug tracker here]. Till will work whole May and June on Kdenlive. Just a suggestion (which took me ages to write). RFC. :) > - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can start soon. yep Simon |
From: derrick p. <der...@gm...> - 2012-02-13 22:22:46
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Hi, I have three suggestions, based on our experiences. First, ask for more money. Novacut took away $28k with 800 supporters. You really can only do this thing once in a blue moon and so why not go for broke? Second, people will want something new, better, faster. If your main pitch is refactoring, I'm afraid your request may fall on deaf ears. If you offer some new and interesting features, that will play better. Finally, be sure to offer some larger dollar sponsorship levels targeted at businesses, 1k, 2k, 5k,10k. You can't get what you don't ask for. Best Derrick -- Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D. @thirtysixthspan (405) 596-4697 der...@gm... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only video recorder connected to the Cloud - http://theOpusCapture.com<http://theopuscapture.com/> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need video of your next event? http://OpusVideoProductions.com<http://opusvideoproductions.com/> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oklahoma City Coworking Collaborative - http://okcCoCo.com<http://okccoco.com/> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster <sim...@gm...>wrote: > > On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hey, > > > > before setting up a the campaign a few things might require further > > discussion: > > > > - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus all > > I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. > > > the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and also > > in June. In case we receive less money I could still work for some > > time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will then. What > > should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually I will be able > > to append a week or two in July but what about the rest? > > I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case you > get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you made etc. > > > - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: > > 10$ donor listing on website > > 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed with > > us/me beforehand > > 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature > > 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me > > beforehand) > > 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) > > Clapperboards? > Postcard from your country? > Kdenlive stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ > Some local speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) > > > > well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us to > > start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. Other > > perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone volunteers to design > > and pay > :-] > Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as well. > They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I mean) like > 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor for this. Maybe > we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts (thicker fabric). > > > a t-shirt?). > > I am not that certain on whether the donation for feature thing really > > is a good idea. What do you guys think? > > I think you'll have enough of work to do with refactoring already! > > > - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? > > Didn't we have marketing pros here on the list? :) > > Kdenlive is one of the best known video editors for Linux and is > OpenSource (free!). It is aiming towards > professional[?]/semi-professional users [please correct my grammar if > necessary]. Lately a few important features have been added: > * Proxy clips for fluent H.264 editing also on slow machines > * Color scopes for color correction > * [sorry, I'm really not up-to-date :( please add more] > > However we found that the architecture of kdenlive – which reaches back > to 2002 – is not up-to-date anymore and discourages new developers to > join our project. Additionally, new features take much longer to > implement and contain more bugs than they should. > > This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give > our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like > different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you > really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the > bug tracker here]. > > Till will work whole May and June on Kdenlive. > > > Just a suggestion (which took me ages to write). RFC. :) > > > - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can start soon. > > yep > > Simon > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
From: wille <wil...@gm...> - 2012-02-14 15:19:48
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Do you know the Zazzle git shop? I think it can be a good option to give gifts to donators. The Gnome Community has a shop in there: http://www.zazzle.com/gnome I'm new in kdenlive community, but if you need some help in this campaign, I can help. regards, wille 2012/2/13 derrick parkhurst <der...@gm...> > Hi, > > I have three suggestions, based on our experiences. First, ask for more > money. Novacut took away $28k with 800 supporters. You really can only do > this thing once in a blue moon and so why not go for broke? Second, people > will want something new, better, faster. If your main pitch is refactoring, > I'm afraid your request may fall on deaf ears. If you offer some new and > interesting features, that will play better. Finally, be sure to offer some > larger dollar sponsorship levels targeted at businesses, 1k, 2k, 5k,10k. > You can't get what you don't ask for. > > Best > Derrick > > > > -- > Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D. > @thirtysixthspan > (405) 596-4697 > der...@gm... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The only video recorder connected to the Cloud - http://theOpusCapture.com<http://theopuscapture.com/> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Need video of your next event? http://OpusVideoProductions.com<http://opusvideoproductions.com/> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Oklahoma City Coworking Collaborative - http://okcCoCo.com<http://okccoco.com/> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster <sim...@gm...>wrote: > >> >> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > Hey, >> > >> > before setting up a the campaign a few things might require further >> > discussion: >> > >> > - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus all >> >> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >> >> > the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and also >> > in June. In case we receive less money I could still work for some >> > time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will then. What >> > should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually I will be able >> > to append a week or two in July but what about the rest? >> >> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case you >> get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you made etc. >> >> > - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: >> > 10$ donor listing on website >> > 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed with >> > us/me beforehand >> > 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature >> > 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me >> > beforehand) >> > 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) >> >> Clapperboards? >> Postcard from your country? >> Kdenlive stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ >> Some local speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >> >> >> > well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us to >> > start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. Other >> > perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone volunteers to design >> >> and pay >> :-] >> Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as well. >> They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I mean) like >> 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor for this. Maybe >> we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts (thicker fabric). >> >> > a t-shirt?). >> > I am not that certain on whether the donation for feature thing really >> > is a good idea. What do you guys think? >> >> I think you'll have enough of work to do with refactoring already! >> >> > - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? >> >> Didn't we have marketing pros here on the list? :) >> >> Kdenlive is one of the best known video editors for Linux and is >> OpenSource (free!). It is aiming towards >> professional[?]/semi-professional users [please correct my grammar if >> necessary]. Lately a few important features have been added: >> * Proxy clips for fluent H.264 editing also on slow machines >> * Color scopes for color correction >> * [sorry, I'm really not up-to-date :( please add more] >> >> However we found that the architecture of kdenlive – which reaches back >> to 2002 – is not up-to-date anymore and discourages new developers to >> join our project. Additionally, new features take much longer to >> implement and contain more bugs than they should. >> >> This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give >> our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like >> different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you >> really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the >> bug tracker here]. >> >> Till will work whole May and June on Kdenlive. >> >> >> Just a suggestion (which took me ages to write). RFC. :) >> >> > - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can start soon. >> >> yep >> >> Simon >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Try before you buy = See our experts in action! >> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers >> is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, >> Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Kdenlive-devel mailing list >> Kde...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > -- Wille http://wille.blog.br |
From: valenstijn <val...@gm...> - 2012-02-14 17:15:10
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Some things to work on : blacklisted-effects / blacklisted-transitions thx 2012/2/14 wille <wil...@gm...> > Do you know the Zazzle git shop? I think it can be a good option to give > gifts to donators. > > The Gnome Community has a shop in there: http://www.zazzle.com/gnome > > I'm new in kdenlive community, but if you need some help in this campaign, > I can help. > > regards, > wille > > > 2012/2/13 derrick parkhurst <der...@gm...> > >> Hi, >> >> I have three suggestions, based on our experiences. First, ask for more >> money. Novacut took away $28k with 800 supporters. You really can only do >> this thing once in a blue moon and so why not go for broke? Second, people >> will want something new, better, faster. If your main pitch is refactoring, >> I'm afraid your request may fall on deaf ears. If you offer some new and >> interesting features, that will play better. Finally, be sure to offer some >> larger dollar sponsorship levels targeted at businesses, 1k, 2k, 5k,10k. >> You can't get what you don't ask for. >> >> Best >> Derrick >> >> >> >> -- >> Derrick Parkhurst, Ph.D. >> @thirtysixthspan >> (405) 596-4697 >> der...@gm... >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> The only video recorder connected to the Cloud - >> http://theOpusCapture.com <http://theopuscapture.com/> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Need video of your next event? http://OpusVideoProductions.com<http://opusvideoproductions.com/> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Oklahoma City Coworking Collaborative - http://okcCoCo.com<http://okccoco.com/> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster <sim...@gm...>wrote: >> >>> >>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> > Hash: SHA1 >>> > >>> > Hey, >>> > >>> > before setting up a the campaign a few things might require further >>> > discussion: >>> > >>> > - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus all >>> >>> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >>> >>> > the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and also >>> > in June. In case we receive less money I could still work for some >>> > time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will then. What >>> > should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually I will be able >>> > to append a week or two in July but what about the rest? >>> >>> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case you >>> get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you made etc. >>> >>> > - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: >>> > 10$ donor listing on website >>> > 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed with >>> > us/me beforehand >>> > 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature >>> > 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me >>> > beforehand) >>> > 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) >>> >>> Clapperboards? >>> Postcard from your country? >>> Kdenlive stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ >>> Some local speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>> >>> >>> > well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us to >>> > start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. Other >>> > perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone volunteers to design >>> >>> and pay >>> :-] >>> Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as well. >>> They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I mean) like >>> 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor for this. Maybe >>> we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts (thicker fabric). >>> >>> > a t-shirt?). >>> > I am not that certain on whether the donation for feature thing really >>> > is a good idea. What do you guys think? >>> >>> I think you'll have enough of work to do with refactoring already! >>> >>> > - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? >>> >>> Didn't we have marketing pros here on the list? :) >>> >>> Kdenlive is one of the best known video editors for Linux and is >>> OpenSource (free!). It is aiming towards >>> professional[?]/semi-professional users [please correct my grammar if >>> necessary]. Lately a few important features have been added: >>> * Proxy clips for fluent H.264 editing also on slow machines >>> * Color scopes for color correction >>> * [sorry, I'm really not up-to-date :( please add more] >>> >>> However we found that the architecture of kdenlive – which reaches back >>> to 2002 – is not up-to-date anymore and discourages new developers to >>> join our project. Additionally, new features take much longer to >>> implement and contain more bugs than they should. >>> >>> This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give >>> our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like >>> different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you >>> really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the >>> bug tracker here]. >>> >>> Till will work whole May and June on Kdenlive. >>> >>> >>> Just a suggestion (which took me ages to write). RFC. :) >>> >>> > - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can start >>> soon. >>> >>> yep >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Try before you buy = See our experts in action! >>> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers >>> is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, >>> Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Kdenlive-devel mailing list >>> Kde...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Try before you buy = See our experts in action! >> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers >> is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, >> Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Kdenlive-devel mailing list >> Kde...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel >> >> > > > -- > Wille > http://wille.blog.br > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > |
From: Vincent P. <vin...@st...> - 2012-02-14 17:09:41
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Le 13.02.2012 23:11, Simon A. Eugster a écrit : > This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give > our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like > different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you > really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the > bug tracker here]. Hi all, I jump on this evocation about the titler : bug #1646 (no multiple move/delete) raised my motivation to get involved \o/ I started to get into the code, but still don't feel at ease with the class hierarchy (GraphicsSceneRectMove...) I can (&will) study further, but if Marco or somebody have any advice, I would be open to interactive work ! I think DVD menu editor is a very similar function, so maybe work could extend to this ? Last, I think a huge but important effort for kdenlive would be documentation writing : probably not for this "summer of Code", but others keep this in mind for your long empty evenings (no Mantis ticket about this ;-) ) ? BR, Vincent. |
From: Marco G. <ma...@gi...> - 2012-02-14 21:58:00
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Am Di 14.02, 18:09:27 schrieb Vincent PINON: > Le 13.02.2012 23:11, Simon A. Eugster a écrit : > > This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give > > our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like > > different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you > > really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the > > bug tracker here]. > > Hi all, > > I jump on this evocation about the titler : bug #1646 (no multiple > move/delete) raised my motivation to get involved \o/ > > I started to get into the code, but still don't feel at ease with the > class hierarchy (GraphicsSceneRectMove...) > I can (&will) study further, but if Marco or somebody have any advice, I > would be open to interactive work ! > I think DVD menu editor is a very similar function, so maybe work could > extend to this ? > what exact you want to know ? the GraphicsSceneRectMove Class came from time where the Rect in a Graphics Scene could not be moved (move the edges). This was the intention to make this class so you can move the borders with the mouse. I cannot say if this is now in QT itself possible. Maybe it can be obsolete now. Since there was a lot of work done in these classses i must take a look at it to have a up to date overview. But if you want to ask something, feel free to ask ;) > Last, I think a huge but important effort for kdenlive would be > documentation writing : probably not for this "summer of Code", but > others keep this in mind for your long empty evenings (no Mantis ticket > about this ;-) ) ? > > BR, > > Vincent. regards marco > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-02-14 21:37:30
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On 02/14/2012 06:09 PM, Vincent PINON wrote: > Le 13.02.2012 23:11, Simon A. Eugster a écrit : >> This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give >> our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like >> different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you >> really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the >> bug tracker here]. > Hi all, > > I jump on this evocation about the titler : bug #1646 (no multiple > move/delete) raised my motivation to get involved \o/ Cool, welcome! :-) > I started to get into the code, but still don't feel at ease with the > class hierarchy (GraphicsSceneRectMove...) > I can (&will) study further, but if Marco or somebody have any advice, I > would be open to interactive work ! I've been looking into this part as you may have seen in the bug report. It is late already but if you want I can give you some comments about the titler tomorrow or so. Maybe describe the problems if you had some so I could try to answer them as well. > I think DVD menu editor is a very similar function, so maybe work could > extend to this ? Um, which one? > Last, I think a huge but important effort for kdenlive would be > documentation writing : probably not for this "summer of Code", but > others keep this in mind for your long empty evenings (no Mantis ticket > about this ;-) ) ? Code documentation or user docs? Some random thoughts that enter my mind when thinking about those topics * Code documentation: I'm totally for documented code. BUT against documenting old code just to have it documented because this is wasted time and should better go into development (where you maybe have difficulties understanding some parts of code and _then_ document this, but not blindly everything). * User documentation: http://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual I had a lecture about User Experience and we were told that simply listing features in the documentation and explaining them is not useful, better would be to make it task based (how do I edit H.264 -> enable proxy clips, how do I crash Kdenlive -> take a hammer) </end of random thoughts> By the way, do you already have a KDE identity for committing? Simon |
From: Vincent P. <vin...@st...> - 2012-02-15 09:24:28
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Simon A. Eugster wrote: > On 02/14/2012 06:09 PM, Vincent PINON wrote: >> Le 13.02.2012 23:11, Simon A. Eugster a écrit : >>> This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to give >>> our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new features like >>> different timeline views, scripting, a more comfortable titler [if you >>> really want to touch this part too :)] and [insert all features from the >>> bug tracker here]. >> Hi all, >> >> I jump on this evocation about the titler : bug #1646 (no multiple >> move/delete) raised my motivation to get involved \o/ > Cool, welcome! :-) > >> I started to get into the code, but still don't feel at ease with the >> class hierarchy (GraphicsSceneRectMove...) >> I can (&will) study further, but if Marco or somebody have any advice, I >> would be open to interactive work ! > I've been looking into this part as you may have seen in the bug report. > It is late already but if you want I can give you some comments about > the titler tomorrow or so. Maybe describe the problems if you had some > so I could try to answer them as well. OK, Marco answered my interrogations: this class derivation is to make shape resize possible (apparently not handled directly in Qt). I will go further on my side... >> I think DVD menu editor is a very similar function, so maybe work could >> extend to this ? > Um, which one? When I place the text buttons (linked to movies or chapters), I feel also limited by very basic editing capabilities... > >> Last, I think a huge but important effort for kdenlive would be >> documentation writing : probably not for this "summer of Code", but >> others keep this in mind for your long empty evenings (no Mantis ticket >> about this ;-) ) ? > Code documentation or user docs? > Some random thoughts that enter my mind when thinking about those topics > * Code documentation: I'm totally for documented code. BUT against > documenting old code just to have it documented because this is wasted > time and should better go into development (where you maybe have > difficulties understanding some parts of code and _then_ document this, > but not blindly everything). > * User documentation: http://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual > I had a lecture about User Experience and we were told that simply > listing features in the documentation and explaining them is not useful, > better would be to make it task based (how do I edit H.264 -> enable > proxy clips, how do I crash Kdenlive -> take a hammer) > </end of random thoughts> > > By the way, do you already have a KDE identity for committing? I was thinking of user manual of course! I fully agree with you: I usually find quick answers in FAQs, but fall asleep with novel-like manuals... This is why I started to keep notes of the tricks I did not guessed directly... in userbase! This is just a crude beginning, my goal was to go through recent forum entries & tutorials, to extract more Q&A to fill the sections... So every time any of you wonders how to do something, userbase could be a place to keep an ordered trace (and eventually find answer)? > > Simon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-02-15 23:28:23
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > > On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> before setting up a the campaign a few things might require >> further discussion: >> >> - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus >> all > > I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. > >> the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and >> also in June. In case we receive less money I could still work >> for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will >> then. What should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually >> I will be able to append a week or two in July but what about the >> rest? > > I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case > you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you > made etc. But we need to tell people what will happen with any money left... > >> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: 10$ >> donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, >> proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ donor >> listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, feature within >> reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor >> listing, "big" feature (...) > > Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? > http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? (like > we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We will have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. > > >> well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us >> to start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. >> Other perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone >> volunteers to design > > and pay :-] Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as > well. They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I > mean) like 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor > for this. Maybe we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts > (thicker fabric). Or we go for a higher donation goal, so that we can cover that, too. > >> a t-shirt?). I am not that certain on whether the donation for >> feature thing really is a good idea. What do you guys think? > > I think you'll have enough of work to do with refactoring already! > >> - - Campaign description: Maybe someone wants to write one ;)? > > Didn't we have marketing pros here on the list? :) > > Kdenlive is one of the best known video editors for Linux and is > OpenSource (free!). It is aiming towards > professional[?]/semi-professional users [please correct my grammar > if necessary]. Lately a few important features have been added: * > Proxy clips for fluent H.264 editing also on slow machines * Color > scopes for color correction * [sorry, I'm really not up-to-date :( > please add more] > > However we found that the architecture of kdenlive – which reaches > back to 2002 – is not up-to-date anymore and discourages new > developers to join our project. Additionally, new features take > much longer to implement and contain more bugs than they should. > > This is where your donation jumps in! It will allow Till Theato to > give our source code a shiny new look and set the base for new > features like different timeline views, scripting, a more > comfortable titler [if you really want to touch this part too :)] > and [insert all features from the bug tracker here]. > > Till will work whole May and June on Kdenlive. > > > Just a suggestion (which took me ages to write). RFC. :) Thanks for you efforts! > >> - - Video: I would prefer to add it later on, so that we can >> start soon. > > yep > > Simon > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk88P2IACgkQzwEyz7QP6nTqywCaA4BMNlLfVQIQ1OdjRoSyAzkQ hBIAoNDKyXy91bxDNHCe5gL/LfFJYnHY =DG9j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-02-15 23:39:35
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2012 11:22 PM, derrick parkhurst wrote: > I have three suggestions, based on our experiences. First, ask for > more money. Novacut took away $28k with 800 supporters. You really > can only do this thing once in a blue moon and so why not go for > broke? Second, people We will probably ask for more money to cover the perks or other promotional things, but what should we do with that much? I cannot work for much longer and the others aren't able to work full time on Kdenlive at all. I also currently don't see a need for hardware or anything like this. Other projects are raising money all the time. So when there's a need again we could launch a new campaign. Of course this probably won't work when $25k are requested twice... > will want something new, better, faster. If your main pitch is > refactoring, I'm afraid your request may fall on deaf ears. If you > offer some new and interesting features, that will play better. > Finally, be sure to offer some To be able to offer this refactoring is absolutely necessary (at least in my opinion). So we got to tell people about the new possibilities arising from the refactoring efforts. > larger dollar sponsorship levels targeted at businesses, 1k, 2k, > 5k,10k. You can't get what you don't ask for. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk88QgQACgkQzwEyz7QP6nSfqACfdGw4ctbo/BycACebMBFKIbfs V9UAnjU6fU7Fn9yioylb1jCFoUs5XfXD =PEow -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-02-16 08:33:15
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On 02/16/2012 12:38 AM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/13/2012 11:22 PM, derrick parkhurst wrote: >> I have three suggestions, based on our experiences. First, ask for >> more money. Novacut took away $28k with 800 supporters. You really >> can only do this thing once in a blue moon and so why not go for >> broke? Second, people > > We will probably ask for more money to cover the perks or other > promotional things, but what should we do with that much? I cannot > work for much longer and the others aren't able to work full time on > Kdenlive at all. I also currently don't see a need for hardware or > anything like this. > Other projects are raising money all the time. So when there's a need > again we could launch a new campaign. Of course this probably won't > work when $25k are requested twice... Agree, but you should at least go a little higher than 2200 € or there won't be anything left after all expenses :) >> will want something new, better, faster. If your main pitch is >> refactoring, I'm afraid your request may fall on deaf ears. If you >> offer some new and interesting features, that will play better. >> Finally, be sure to offer some > > To be able to offer this refactoring is absolutely necessary (at least > in my opinion). and in mine too, I spend half the time implementing a new feature and the other half trying to figure out which part of the old code prevents it from working correctly. > So we got to tell people about the new possibilities > arising from the refactoring efforts. http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kdenlive.git&a=blob_plain&h=01739df2b7c6ef689c9706f0e681e672081fa220&f=TODO and maybe the unassigned features on mantis could give some input http://www.kdenlive.org/mantis/search.php?project_id=1&handler_id=-2&severity_id=10&sticky_issues=off&sortby=last_updated&dir=DESC&hide_status_id=90 Simon |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-02-16 08:23:44
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On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> >> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> before setting up a the campaign a few things might require >>> further discussion: >>> >>> - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus >>> all >> >> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >> >>> the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and >>> also in June. In case we receive less money I could still work >>> for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will >>> then. What should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually >>> I will be able to append a week or two in July but what about the >>> rest? >> >> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case >> you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you >> made etc. > > But we need to tell people what will happen with any money left... Yep; If it is much more than you can work and than is required for the perks, we could put it aside for future use. >>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: 10$ >>> donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, >>> proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ donor >>> listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, feature within >>> reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor >>> listing, "big" feature (...) >> >> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? >> http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? (like >> we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) > > That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! > We will have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. > >> >> >>> well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us >>> to start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. >>> Other perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone >>> volunteers to design >> >> and pay :-] Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as >> well. They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I >> mean) like 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor >> for this. Maybe we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts >> (thicker fabric). > > Or we go for a higher donation goal, so that we can cover that, too. Maybe not the T-shirts since this would easily be 1000 to 2000 already -- unless we do it via zazzle.com posted by Wille. But perhaps it is better to set up a zazzle shop separately from IndieGoGo and offer other perks here. Simon |
From: Vincent P. <vin...@st...> - 2012-02-16 08:41:42
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On 02/16/12 09:23, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> >>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> before setting up a the campaign a few things might require >>>> further discussion: >>>> >>>> - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money (minus >>>> all >>>> >>> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >>> >>> >>>> the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May and >>>> also in June. In case we receive less money I could still work >>>> for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long it will >>>> then. What should we do in case we receive more money? Eventually >>>> I will be able to append a week or two in July but what about the >>>> rest? >>>> >>> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in case >>> you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the progress you >>> made etc. >>> >> But we need to tell people what will happen with any money left... >> > > Yep; If it is much more than you can work and than is required for the > perks, we could put it aside for future use. > I would be also happy to reward some developpers who already invested much of there time (clearly identified :-p)... They did it without financial interest in mind, but if money comes, why not at least offering a gift ? (I've never seen donations open before) >>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: 10$ >>>> donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for feature, >>>> proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ donor >>>> listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, feature within >>>> reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor >>>> listing, "big" feature (...) >>>> >>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? >>> http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? (like >>> we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>> >> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! >> We will have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. >> >> >>> >>>> well, they are not very creative but at least they would allow us >>>> to start the campaign quickly without much further preparation. >>>> Other perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe someone >>>> volunteers to design >>>> >>> and pay :-] Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee as >>> well. They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know what I >>> mean) like 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could find a sponsor >>> for this. Maybe we could even get some higher-quality T-shirts >>> (thicker fabric). >>> >> Or we go for a higher donation goal, so that we can cover that, too. >> > > Maybe not the T-shirts since this would easily be 1000 to 2000 already > -- unless we do it via zazzle.com posted by Wille. But perhaps it is > better to set up a zazzle shop separately from IndieGoGo and offer other > perks here. > > Simon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-02-19 22:53:57
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>> >>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> before setting up a the campaign a few things might require >>>> further discussion: >>>> >>>> - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money >>>> (minus all >>> >>> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >>> >>>> the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May >>>> and also in June. In case we receive less money I could still >>>> work for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long >>>> it will then. What should we do in case we receive more >>>> money? Eventually I will be able to append a week or two in >>>> July but what about the rest? >>> >>> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in >>> case you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the >>> progress you made etc. >> >> But we need to tell people what will happen with any money >> left... > > Yep; If it is much more than you can work and than is required for > the perks, we could put it aside for future use. > > >>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: >>>> 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for >>>> feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ >>>> donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, >>>> feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) >>>> 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) >>> >>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? >>> http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? >>> (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >> >> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We will >> have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are really worth it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing special since not customizable (at a reasonable price at least, e.g. clapperboards). What do those with crowd-funding experience think? Any other ideas? Sorry for further delaying this... >> >>> >>> >>>> well, they are not very creative but at least they would >>>> allow us to start the campaign quickly without much further >>>> preparation. Other perks could be added later on (e.g. maybe >>>> someone volunteers to design >>> >>> and pay :-] Sponsors, anyone? I'd like to have a Kdenlive tee >>> as well. They often have large minimum ... editions? (you know >>> what I mean) like 250 or so. Would be very cool if we could >>> find a sponsor for this. Maybe we could even get some >>> higher-quality T-shirts (thicker fabric). >> >> Or we go for a higher donation goal, so that we can cover that, >> too. > > Maybe not the T-shirts since this would easily be 1000 to 2000 > already -- unless we do it via zazzle.com posted by Wille. But > perhaps it is better to set up a zazzle shop separately from > IndieGoGo and offer other perks here. > > Simon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9BfU8ACgkQzwEyz7QP6nT7tQCcC5uoK4+TxElGSvk6r0XG8AkD YiEAnjYC8d1fIAVQDas1FxIpgDVL9tlS =0dl9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-03-05 08:12:26
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On 02/19/2012 11:53 PM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>> >>>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> before setting up a the campaign a few things might require >>>>> further discussion: >>>>> >>>>> - - Goal: 2200€ (currently about 2910 US$). For that money >>>>> (minus all >>>> >>>> I think you could well go to 2800 € for two months. >>>> >>>>> the fees) I will work in May and June. 8h/day, 20 days in May >>>>> and also in June. In case we receive less money I could still >>>>> work for some time on Kdenlive but I cannot say yet how long >>>>> it will then. What should we do in case we receive more >>>>> money? Eventually I will be able to append a week or two in >>>>> July but what about the rest? >>>> >>>> I'd postpone this decision ... You can still think about it in >>>> case you get a lot more money :) Maybe also depends on the >>>> progress you made etc. >>> >>> But we need to tell people what will happen with any money >>> left... >> >> Yep; If it is much more than you can work and than is required for >> the perks, we could put it aside for future use. >> >> >>>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: >>>>> 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for >>>>> feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ >>>>> donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, >>>>> feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) >>>>> 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) >>>> >>>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? >>>> http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? >>>> (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>> >>> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We will >>> have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. > > > Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are really worth > it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing special since not > customizable (at a reasonable price at least, e.g. clapperboards). > What do those with crowd-funding experience think? Any other ideas? > > Sorry for further delaying this... Feature: Subititle support? ;) Simon |
From: Stefan N. <sna...@ya...> - 2012-02-20 11:23:06
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Hey there. I did an Alan Wake Trailer with KDEnlive and I must say that I'm impressed by the stability of KDEnlive. (the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9ghZYaxQ00 ) I used uncompressed video material recorded by Fraps and used the Ubuntu 11.10 Oneric Onion SVN PPA's version. It was very stable; the editing of proxy clips was great, but there are some smaller weakpoints. Once I had KDEnlive crash or exit (because there was no KDE Segfault error message) when I wanted to play the project. KDEnlive just exited. There is a problem when playing the project and jumping to an other point in timeline, for the program waiting one or two seconds until it finaly does what I say. The same when I played the project; paused and clicked somewhere in timeline. KDEnlive waits and then it goes on. I found some minor difficulties in drawing of the timeline; for there sometimes beeing gray vertical lines within it; nothing bad. One thing, I must admit is arkward - the way you want me to add transitions. It feels strange having two clips overlapping, rightclicking -> Transition -> whatever. I got this working once. When the first clips is on top and the second on a lower track. What I don't understand: the other way round is just awful - the transition looks really bad and something volatile in the transition, arkward to describe. And last but not least: where can I edit the audio options. Let's say: the first Audio track shall be the loudest; audio 2 just 80% and audio 3 shall be muted completely. You know what I mean. I haven't found that option. As I began my comment: KDEnlive is really great and I loved using it for the first time for something more professional than vacation videos or something like that, but it'd be great getting a response from you what I did wrong or maybe you can fix the problem. Regards Stefan Naumann |
From: Stefan N. <sna...@ya...> - 2012-03-11 08:45:27
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Hey there, I just did a video using H264 as source files - creating proxy files wasn't that a problem, but with more than 40 GB of source files it takes its time. Well. Normal MPEG looks awful, just to say the least. But works as a proxy file format - Not. Audio and Video were just out of sync. I just ungrouped audio and video tracks and removed audio, for I didn't need that. Using KDEnlive was good, No errors, no complains, no SegFaults. Good. I just find it odd for a soft blend to add "addition" transition and let both videos fade from / to black. This is somewhat unusual. But it works. Rendering the file: Oh god. I rendered the project to HDD not using the proxy clips. (I'm sure you can understand that). Watched the video and it was just awful. The videoclips weren't what they looked like as proxy. I guess the ffmpeg thread did some mistakes creating proxies, for the audio track apparently beeing right, but the video just is way to late. Using the original footage, but with the proxy times, just is bad, for there is not shown, what I wanted it to be, but lets say 10 seconds later. So I have to convert the original footage again to proxies, but with better quality. I was searching more than 30 minutes for the options dialog to do that. Can you just put a button right aside the select-box in project settings menu? Thanks. I hope I can help you find and fix more problems and bugs. Original Footage: h264, aac ; came from Hauppauge HD PVR ; 720p 59,99 fps using KDEnlive SVN version from PPA of Ubuntu Oneric Ocelot. Regards Stefan Naumann |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-02-29 08:47:31
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On 02/19/2012 11:53 PM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>> >>>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to do: >>>>> 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote for >>>>> feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me beforehand 50$ >>>>> donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ donor listing, >>>>> feature within reason (to be discussed with us/me beforehand) >>>>> 500$ donor listing, "big" feature (...) >>>> >>>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive stickers? >>>> http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local speciality? >>>> (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>> >>> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We will >>> have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. > > > Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are really worth > it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing special since not > customizable (at a reasonable price at least, e.g. clapperboards). > What do those with crowd-funding experience think? Any other ideas? > > Sorry for further delaying this... Well, you cannot give people a $50 perk for a $20 donation. That's the range I was aiming at and what I assume most people will donate. And tbh, I'd actually like to have a postcard from a dev, it is something personal and you'd never get this for commercial software. For higher donations I don't have any more ideas, maybe really a feature request? Simon |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-03-08 23:22:06
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/29/2012 09:13 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > On 02/19/2012 11:53 PM, Till Theato wrote: >> On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>> On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >>>> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to >>>>>> do: 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote >>>>>> for feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me >>>>>> beforehand 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ >>>>>> donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed >>>>>> with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor listing, "big" feature >>>>>> (...) >>>>> >>>>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive >>>>> stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local >>>>> speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>>> >>>> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We >>>> will have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. >> >> >> Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are really >> worth it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing special >> since not customizable (at a reasonable price at least, e.g. >> clapperboards). What do those with crowd-funding experience >> think? Any other ideas? >> >> Sorry for further delaying this... > > Well, you cannot give people a $50 perk for a $20 donation. That's > the range I was aiming at and what I assume most people will > donate. And tbh, I'd actually like to have a postcard from a dev, > it is something personal and you'd never get this for commercial > software. What about this: $5 donor listing on website $15 listing + personal thank you email $25 listing + postcard $75 listing + postcard + t-shirt $100 postcard + t-shirt + featured listing at top of page with image $500 ??? $1000 feature (within reason) We'd have to raise the goal then however. Assuming that everyone will get a t-shirt and that they cost between $20 and $25 an extra $1000 to $1500 would be required. Since most likely not everyone will get one I'd set the goal to $4000 then. Any thoughts? regards Till > > For higher donations I don't have any more ideas, maybe really a > feature request? > > Simon > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9ZPuYACgkQzwEyz7QP6nTRzwCbBXCn2C2/RxER0pFnCI4z3Hks UHYAoMh5klYjaJxTj29EH7A13dY6luX1 =wWmp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Simon A. E. <sim...@gm...> - 2012-03-09 06:41:39
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On 03/09/2012 12:21 AM, Till Theato wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/29/2012 09:13 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> On 02/19/2012 11:53 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>> On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>> On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>>>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy to >>>>>>> do: 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor listing, vote >>>>>>> for feature, proposals to be discussed with us/me >>>>>>> beforehand 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for feature 100$ >>>>>>> donor listing, feature within reason (to be discussed >>>>>>> with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor listing, "big" feature >>>>>>> (...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive >>>>>> stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some local >>>>>> speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or edibles) >>>>> >>>>> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! We >>>>> will have to see how much the goal has to be raised then. >>> >>> >>> Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are really >>> worth it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing special >>> since not customizable (at a reasonable price at least, e.g. >>> clapperboards). What do those with crowd-funding experience >>> think? Any other ideas? >>> >>> Sorry for further delaying this... >> >> Well, you cannot give people a $50 perk for a $20 donation. That's >> the range I was aiming at and what I assume most people will >> donate. And tbh, I'd actually like to have a postcard from a dev, >> it is something personal and you'd never get this for commercial >> software. > > What about this: > $5 donor listing on website > $15 listing + personal thank you email > $25 listing + postcard > $75 listing + postcard + t-shirt > $100 postcard + t-shirt + featured listing at top of page with image > $500 ??? > $1000 feature (within reason) > > We'd have to raise the goal then however. Assuming that everyone will > get a t-shirt and that they cost between $20 and $25 an extra $1000 to > $1500 would be required. Since most likely not everyone will get one > I'd set the goal to $4000 then. > Any thoughts? Fine for me |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2012-03-10 21:38:54
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/09/2012 07:41 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > > > On 03/09/2012 12:21 AM, Till Theato wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/29/2012 09:13 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>> On 02/19/2012 11:53 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>> On 02/16/2012 09:23 AM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>>> On 02/16/2012 12:27 AM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>> On 02/13/2012 11:11 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>>>>> On 02/13/2012 09:42 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>>>> - - Perks: Some ideas that would be relatively easy >>>>>>>> to do: 10$ donor listing on website 25$ donor >>>>>>>> listing, vote for feature, proposals to be discussed >>>>>>>> with us/me beforehand 50$ donor listing, 2 votes for >>>>>>>> feature 100$ donor listing, feature within reason (to >>>>>>>> be discussed with us/me beforehand) 500$ donor >>>>>>>> listing, "big" feature (...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clapperboards? Postcard from your country? Kdenlive >>>>>>> stickers? http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/ Some >>>>>>> local speciality? (like we have Swiss Army knives, or >>>>>>> edibles) >>>>>> >>>>>> That sounds good. I will have a look into these ideas! >>>>>> We will have to see how much the goal has to be raised >>>>>> then. >>>> >>>> >>>> Upon further thought I doubt that such little perks are >>>> really worth it. Too much effort (e.g. stickers) or nothing >>>> special since not customizable (at a reasonable price at >>>> least, e.g. clapperboards). What do those with crowd-funding >>>> experience think? Any other ideas? >>>> >>>> Sorry for further delaying this... >>> >>> Well, you cannot give people a $50 perk for a $20 donation. >>> That's the range I was aiming at and what I assume most people >>> will donate. And tbh, I'd actually like to have a postcard from >>> a dev, it is something personal and you'd never get this for >>> commercial software. >> >> What about this: $5 donor listing on website $15 listing + >> personal thank you email $25 listing + postcard $75 listing + >> postcard + t-shirt $100 postcard + t-shirt + featured listing at >> top of page with image $500 ??? $1000 feature (within reason) >> >> We'd have to raise the goal then however. Assuming that everyone >> will get a t-shirt and that they cost between $20 and $25 an >> extra $1000 to $1500 would be required. Since most likely not >> everyone will get one I'd set the goal to $4000 then. Any >> thoughts? > > Fine for me Any ideas for that $500 perk? Any input from the others who were active in this thread? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9byagACgkQzwEyz7QP6nRcegCg35fjkVaisJn/DI6QS+++NqNS 3TwAnRaMSmeyBDJuyyRRJnuwMr8paZuK =v0Ol -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Michael S. <mi...@os...> - 2012-03-11 13:21:53
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:37:55PM +0100, Till Theato wrote: > Any ideas for that $500 perk? A branded cam? -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mi...@al...> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/ |
From: Martin M. <moo...@gm...> - 2012-03-14 15:20:19
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On 10 March 2012 21:37, Till Theato <ro...@tt...> wrote: > > > Any ideas for that $500 perk? > Any input from the others who were active in this thread? > How about a one on one tutorial on Kdenlive? Would only work if the donator was new to the software of course. Or a short video made from footage provided by donator by the developers (or a pro from the community)? The rest looks good, looking forward to my t-shirt! Martin |