Re: [Kaldi-users] Kaldi's recipe with "sp" and "sil" model

[Daniel P. <dp...@gm...>]

You won't be able to reproduce the behavior of "sp" in Kaldi, as it is
"invisible" to context.
It's not at all recommended to try to combine Kaldi and HTK systems.
Dan



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Nagendra Goel
<nag...@go...>wrote:

> It is possible to modify L.fst to introduce additional phones other than
> "sil". The loop going back to the new word is under your control. However
> its not clear if that will give any true advantage. "sp" was introduced in
> HTK to handle databases such as switchboard and there may be some advantage
> to doing this if you have optional noise phones that you want to keep
> separate from sil.
>
> Nagendra
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:57 AM, dophist <do...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, Daniel,
>>
>> I've recently worked on Kaldi toolkit, got a problem with sp model.
>>
>> In a typical HTK system, 'sil' and 'sp' are conceptional different, even
>> in terms of number of states, 'sil' tends to have 3-5 states, whereas 'sp'
>> has 1.
>>
>> In Kaldi, if I get it right, recipes introduce a single concept called
>> 'optional silence', which can occur at the beginning/between-words/end of
>> an utterance.  This "optional silence" plays the role of both 'sp' and
>> 'sil' in HTK.
>>
>> is it possible to train a Kaldi model with seperate sp and sil model? I
>> do this mainly because I have another system that assumes sp and sil are
>> different, and I want kaldi to provide acoustic model for that system.
>>
>> Now one solution I can think of, is to modify the default L.fst structure
>> in Kaldi (make_lexicon_fst.sh script), such as substituting sil with sp on
>> word_end_phone branching arc(sil-state/loop-state branching), but I'm not
>> sure if this breaks any assumption of other parts of the recipe.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jiayu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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