Re: [Jython-users] Re: [Jython-dev] future direction of Jython

[Bryan W. <bry...@po...>]

i looked at groovy awhile back.i don't remember much, but i do remember
is the language struck me as more complicated than python and a lot of
ruby-ish stuff.  i also could find no example of how to write a
stand-alone groovy module and have java call it just like it's java.
you had to instantiate the groovy intrepreter and eval the file or
lines.  the java side had to know it was calling groovy code.  that's
where jython really shines by being able to expose itself to java as
java.  if groovy can't do this.... i think jython should really take
advantage of this and even improve upon it if possible and market it as
true seemless transparent integration .

bryan

Sean McGrath wrote:

> Brian,
>
> From my perspective, activity around Jython in terms of working well 
> with Java, jythonc, new/improved bundled libraries for XML processing 
> etc. are more important that blow-for-blow feature tracking of CPython.
>
> Jython is a truly wonderful technology but evangalising it to 
> potential users is becoming increasingly difficult because of the 
> percieved lack of activity in Jython-land.
>
> Dynamic languages are "the next big thing" for the JVM. I'm convinced 
> of that. Jython is in the right place at the right time. However, the 
> world is not standing still. Dynamic languages like Groovy are getting 
> a lot of mindshare - not necessarily because they are "better" than 
> Jython - but there is a perception of a more vibrant, active community 
> than exists right now for Jython.
>
> My 2 cents,
> Sean
>
> brian zimmer wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in learning more about the group's interest in the 
>> future direction of Jython.  What are the primary areas of 
>> development people wish addressed?  Is it more important to work well 
>> with Java or be feature-for-feature compliant with CPython?  Do 
>> people like jythonc?  Should it be improved in any way?  What about 
>> missing modules from CPython such as select, sets or datetime?  
>> Should these be implemented?  Does anyone have significant changes to 
>> Jython they have found useful?
>>
>> I'd like to know how people feel, what features are used the most and 
>> what should be done for Jython.  I'm not suggesting that I or anyone 
>> currently on the development team will be able to do anything with 
>> the results of this informal survey, but we might.
>>
>> Any information would be valuable.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> brian
>>
>>
>>
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