From: Charles O. N. <cha...@su...> - 2007-02-17 01:53:29
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(Yes, this is somewhat of a form-letter, but don't take that as being any less enthusiastic. I'm ready to respond to questions directly, and I'm serious (as is Sun) about putting on this event. And congratulations again on your 2.2 beta release :) Hello all! I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my intent to have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together in the same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This would be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble, features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly platform. Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other language teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion. The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or restaurant. I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk. It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this is an excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive. Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't mind) or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make sure things keep moving in the right direction. -- Charles Oliver Nutter JRuby Core Developer Senior Staff Engineer Sun Microsystems, Inc |
From: A.M. K. <am...@am...> - 2007-02-18 03:26:53
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On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:53:20PM -0600, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I > could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level Note to potential Jython attendees: if it would make the difference between going and not going, please consider asking the PSF to assist. We'd have to take a vote on it, so I can't guarantee anything, but would bet that the other directors would be willing. --amk |
From: Charlie G. <cha...@gm...> - 2007-02-18 07:17:06
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Sounds great; I'll definitely be there. While I'm not planning on going to JavaOne, I'll be working a couple blocks from the Moscone Center by then so it shouldn't be too hard for me to get to wherever you end up holding this. Charlie On 2/16/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <cha...@su...> wrote: > (Yes, this is somewhat of a form-letter, but don't take that as being > any less enthusiastic. I'm ready to respond to questions directly, and > I'm serious (as is Sun) about putting on this event. And congratulations > again on your 2.2 beta release :) > > Hello all! > > I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year > entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my intent to > have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together in the > same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This would > be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble, > features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to > remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the > boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can > cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly platform. > > Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as > you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo > and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other language > teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion. > > The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or restaurant. > I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk. > > It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I > could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level > folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this is an > excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the > dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive. > > Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't mind) > or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is > going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make sure > things keep moving in the right direction. > > -- > Charles Oliver Nutter > JRuby Core Developer > Senior Staff Engineer > Sun Microsystems, Inc > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Jython-dev mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev > |
From: Charles O. N. <cha...@su...> - 2007-02-19 00:30:47
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Charlie Groves wrote: > Sounds great; I'll definitely be there. While I'm not planning on > going to JavaOne, I'll be working a couple blocks from the Moscone > Center by then so it shouldn't be too hard for me to get to wherever > you end up holding this. Excellent, I will be sure you let you know the details as they're figured out. - Charlie |
From: Frank C. <fc...@pu...> - 2007-02-21 22:30:07
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Hi Charlie: I think your idea is a very good one. I haven't received anything official yet but I'm pretty sure that I will be leading the Dynamic Scripting BOF at JavaOne again this year. Whatever you decide to do, please let me know. I will be happy to promote it at the BOF and on the PushToTest newsletter. -Frank On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > (Yes, this is somewhat of a form-letter, but don't take that as being > any less enthusiastic. I'm ready to respond to questions directly, and > I'm serious (as is Sun) about putting on this event. And > congratulations > again on your 2.2 beta release :) > > Hello all! > > I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year > entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my > intent to > have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together > in the > same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This > would > be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble, > features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to > remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the > boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can > cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly > platform. > > Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as > you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo > and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other > language > teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion. > > The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or > restaurant. > I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk. > > It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I > could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level > folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this > is an > excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the > dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive. > > Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't > mind) > or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is > going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make > sure > things keep moving in the right direction. > > -- > Charles Oliver Nutter > JRuby Core Developer > Senior Staff Engineer > Sun Microsystems, Inc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Jython-dev mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev > -- Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374 7426 TestMaker: The open-source SOA test automation tool |
From: Frank C. <fc...@pu...> - 2007-02-21 23:31:40
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I wrote too soon! Just got this! Congratulations! Your "Birds of a Feather" submission BOF-2958 entitled " Dynamic Scripting Languages BOF " was so compelling that the JavaOne Program Committee has decided to accept your proposal to participate at the upcoming 2007 JavaOne(sm) Conference in San Francisco, California, May 8-11, 2007. So it's on! -Frank On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Frank Cohen wrote: > Hi Charlie: I think your idea is a very good one. I haven't received > anything official yet but I'm pretty sure that I will be leading the > Dynamic Scripting BOF at JavaOne again this year. Whatever you decide > to do, please let me know. I will be happy to promote it at the BOF > and on the PushToTest newsletter. -Frank > > > > > On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > >> (Yes, this is somewhat of a form-letter, but don't take that as being >> any less enthusiastic. I'm ready to respond to questions directly, >> and >> I'm serious (as is Sun) about putting on this event. And >> congratulations >> again on your 2.2 beta release :) >> >> Hello all! >> >> I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year >> entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my >> intent to >> have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together >> in the >> same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This >> would >> be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble, >> features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd >> like to >> remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the >> boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we >> can >> cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly >> platform. >> >> Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or >> others, as >> you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo >> and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other >> language >> teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion. >> >> The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or >> restaurant. >> I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually >> talk. >> >> It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I >> could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level >> folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this >> is an >> excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between >> the >> dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive. >> >> Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't >> mind) >> or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is >> going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make >> sure >> things keep moving in the right direction. >> >> -- >> Charles Oliver Nutter >> JRuby Core Developer >> Senior Staff Engineer >> Sun Microsystems, Inc >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> --- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to >> share your >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php? >> page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Jython-dev mailing list >> Jyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev >> > > > > -- > Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374 7426 > TestMaker: The open-source SOA test automation tool > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php? > page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Jython-dev mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev > -- Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374 7426 TestMaker: The open-source SOA test automation tool |
From: Oti <oh...@gm...> - 2007-02-25 08:07:04
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Congratulations! and here is what I got: """ Dear Otmar Humbel, Sun Microsystems, Inc. and the JavaOne[SM] Conference Content Team are grateful for your proposal to present at the 2007 JavaOne conference. The high quality of submissions made the selection process extremely difficult. We regret to inform you that we will be unable to accept your proposal entitled ' Jython and Java: Plug & Play '. Thank you very much for your submission. We appreciate your continued support of the JavaOne conference. Sincerely, JavaOne Conference Content Team """ So obviously I did not enough to convince the team, which I apologize for. I promise to do it better if I get a chance again. Nonetheless I am still convinced that my talk would have spread the word about Jython in Java land. best wishes, Oti. On 2/22/07, Frank Cohen <fc...@pu...> wrote: > I wrote too soon! Just got this! > > Congratulations! Your "Birds of a Feather" submission BOF-2958 > entitled " Dynamic Scripting Languages BOF " was so compelling that > the JavaOne Program Committee has decided to accept your proposal to > participate at the upcoming 2007 JavaOne(sm) Conference in San > Francisco, California, May 8-11, 2007. > > > > So it's on! > > -Frank |
From: Charles O. N. <cha...@su...> - 2007-02-22 02:26:12
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Frank Cohen wrote: > I wrote too soon! Just got this! > > Congratulations! Your "Birds of a Feather" submission BOF-2958 entitled > " Dynamic Scripting Languages BOF " was so compelling that the JavaOne > Program Committee has decided to accept your proposal to participate at > the upcoming 2007 JavaOne(sm) Conference in San Francisco, California, > May 8-11, 2007. Congratulations! It's shaping up to be a great program this year. And people thought last year was the "scripting" JavaOne. This year will really impress. - Charlie |
From: Oti <oh...@gm...> - 2007-02-22 06:15:51
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Charles, many thanks for organizing this! I'll be at JavaOne, and I am looking forward to participate. In my opinion it would be great to have Samuele with us, especially when reading http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/12/08/DynamicJava. best wishes, Oti. On 2/17/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <cha...@su...> wrote: > (Yes, this is somewhat of a form-letter, but don't take that as being > any less enthusiastic. I'm ready to respond to questions directly, and > I'm serious (as is Sun) about putting on this event. And congratulations > again on your 2.2 beta release :) > > Hello all! > > I am attempting to organize an outside event for JavaOne this year > entitled "Dynamic Languages on the JVM: The Future". It is my intent to > have as many alternative (dynamic) language implementers together in the > same place as well as Java and JVM developers and specifiers. This would > be our opportunity to talk about areas that have caused us trouble, > features we'd like to see in Java or the JVM (or features we'd like to > remove) and other related topics. I really want to break down the > boundaries between the language implementations/implementers so we can > cooperatively work toward making the JVM a more dynlang-friendly platform. > > Ideally we'd have as many of your core team as possible (or others, as > you see fit) in attendance. I'll be there, as will at least Tom Enebo > and Ola Bini of the JRuby team. I'm also reaching out to other language > teams in hopes of having a really good cross-language discussion. > > The event would likely be hosted at a nearby hotel, bar, or restaurant. > I'd like it to be pretty informal, but somewhere we can actually talk. > > It would help my cause to get this event organized (and funded) if I > could get a vote of confidence from likely attendees. Many high-level > folks at Sun have already voiced their approval, and I think this is an > excellent opportunity for us to show that real cooperation between the > dynlang impls is possible and that it would be productive. > > Please feel free to reply on this list (assuming the owners don't mind) > or in private if you have questions or to voice your opinion. This is > going to be a big year for dynlangs on the JVM, and we need to make sure > things keep moving in the right direction. > > -- > Charles Oliver Nutter > JRuby Core Developer > Senior Staff Engineer > Sun Microsystems, Inc > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Jython-dev mailing list > Jyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev > |
From: Charles O. N. <cha...@su...> - 2007-03-01 11:25:20
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Oti wrote: > Congratulations! > > and here is what I got: > > """ > Dear Otmar Humbel, > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. and the JavaOne[SM] Conference Content Team are > grateful for your proposal to present at the 2007 JavaOne conference. > The high quality of submissions made the selection process extremely > difficult. We regret to inform you that we will be unable to accept > your proposal entitled ' Jython and Java: Plug & Play '. Check again! I've been working closely with the folks handling the Tools and Languages track, and when I saw your talk wasn't accepted I offered to drop one of my talks to get you in. So you should have gotten a notification yesterday to indicate that your talk has now been accepted. Congratulations! I think this is an excellent chance for you all to show that Jython is BACK, and hopefully you can make some good progress before May. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with the talk or the project. - Charlie |