The J wasn't in the coffee steam in the original--I had to
flip the steam about a vertical axis for it to become a "J".
I think the cup makes sense for the "full" logo, but maybe
just the "J" steam/snake for the app icon (or the steamy
"J" plus the "ython").

From: Lars Heuer []
Sent: Sat 10/8/2005 1:27 PM
To: Updike, Clark
Cc: Bill de hÓra; Frank Wierzbicki; JythonDevelopers
Subject: Re: [Jython-dev] logo / website re-design

Hi there,

> I'll throw my hat in the ring.  Yes, it looks horrible.
> I'd leave the details to a real designer with a real tool. 
> But the concept is to flip the snake around and use it's
> body for the J in jython.  Note the lame effort to
> accentuate the J from the snake, FWIW.

Without the cup the whole logo makes no sense. The "J" is the coffee
steam! Maybe too subtile for a minority but I think it's funny an well

Best regards,