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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-25 08:32:32
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Dear Open Source developer I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate. You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it. With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development. With many thanks for your participation, Benno Luthiger PS: The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/. We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list. _______________________________________________________________________ Benno Luthiger Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich 8092 Zurich Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch _______________________________________________________________________ |
From: Chris P. <ch...@k2...> - 2004-05-06 23:07:52
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I thought I'd start getting some words on development out as it (i) keeps everyone up to speed on what's going on (ii) helps me remember what I've done and (iii) acts as a rolling history of development so far. Given that this is the first one there's quite a bit to get through so first off, let's start with icefire... There are two major improvements on icefire to mention. Firstly, users can now order plugins within individual docklets. It's not as neat as the drag'n'drop idea I've got planned but it's still pretty good. Now when the user right-clicks on a docklet header, instead of having 'Add plugin' and 'Remove plugin' menus, there's a single 'Plugins' menu which expands out as follows: Add > ----------- [plugin] > [plugin] > [plugin] refers to a currently loaded plugin instance within the docklet. You'll notice that each plugin entry is actually a menu parent and moving the mouse over it opens another sub menu as follows: Move up Move down ----------- Remove Obviously 'Move up' is ghosted if the plugin is already at the top of the docklet, as is 'Move down' if it's at the bottom. Like I say, it's not as neat as dragging them but it's certainly a step in the right direction! The next icefire improvement is something that's been possible for ages, it's just that I've not wanted to make it public. Did you know that plugins can also add items to the shelf? :) Yep, you just cast the 'Host' parameter to an MShelf interface and call AddToShelf() as you would from an AddOn. The only problem here is that doing it this way you won't be able to receive notifications from the shelf when the user clicks the icon. You can get around this problem by having the plugin implement the MShelfAddOn interface and then 'start' the plugin as if it was being launched as an AddOn. This, obviously, is a bit too convoluted so I'm working on a neater way to do this. The most obvious use for this would be to allow plugins to 'minimize' themselves to the shelf - imagine the Pulse plugin with a "show in shelf" option which hides the plugin (sets its height to zero), then adds an icon to the shelf. The shelf icon has a 'restore' option which puts it all back. Neat eh? That's icefire done with, now on to more melon news... Firstly, soap's come up with a couple of absolute gems. Not only has he wrapped the pdh api (performance monitoring to you and I) into a melon library so you can enumerate all objects, then all counters and instances for each object, but he's even put together a little dialog that lets the user select the one he/she wants from a list! If that wasn't enough, you can also preview the counter to see what sort of figures it pushes out. :D As if that wasn't enough he's taken the meter and graph objects from the existing plugin and turned them into 'lightweight widgets' which, instead of using a window to display in, they just create a bitmap which can be drawn into an existing window. Expect a new plugin that can display any number of graphs showing any performance counters the user wants very soon! Not to be outdone, I'm busy revamping the controls that appear in the new icefire settings dialog (tabs, sliders and buttons so far) - I've created a new toolbar control and an extended version of the standard ListBox Windows control (allows for variable height items, icons, customisable fonts, etc. There's a few other things going on but I'm gonna save them for another round-up! |
From: stan <st...@k2...> - 2004-04-27 19:33:01
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> Cool! > We can make up some app buttons, link them to Icefire, Process > Controller, Stardust, etc... in a separate module under the > main menu. > How's that sound? Fantastic! :) > I wasn't implying vaporware or anything just wondering if the screen > shots weren't from an earlier dev stage or whether you had added some > new stuff :) > Nice upgrade! I wasn't implying that you were implying that! =) > -----Original Message----- > From: 30Mil [mailto:30...@sc...] > Sent: 26 April 2004 03:47 > To: stan > Cc: la...@k2...; 'Mark Woan'; 'DaWeasal'; > nu...@si... > Subject: Re: New icefire site > > > Cool! > We can make up some app buttons, link them to Icefire, Process > Controller, Stardust, etc... in a separate module under the > main menu. > How's that sound? > * > "Do you mean the orange bar? I'm using IE6.0 and they appear > fine to me > - anyone else notice a problem?"* > I run Mozilla Firefox and the entire image portion of the orange bar > that contains the link "raises up" a bit on the mouse-over. > The rest of > the links on the page simply change color and underline as expected. > > I wasn't implying vaporware or anything just wondering if the screen > shots weren't from an earlier dev stage or whether you had added some > new stuff :) > Nice upgrade! > > stan wrote: > > >The new icefire mini-site looks different as I like the > fresh look and, > >to be honest, after messing around with both e107 and mos I > still keep > >coming back to good old notepad. I put together that site using > >notepad and image composer in less than a day - three days > of messing > >with mos and I got nowhere. > > > >I'd like to improve the main site slightly by having nice big chunky > >links to the various apps (currently icefire is the only one > so the big > >chunky "download icefire now" link serves that purpose. However, I > >disagree that having a separate look to the icefire > mini-site confuses > >the user - it is, at the end of the day, part of > k23productions (as per > >the URL) and does not really duplicate anything (the forum link will > >point to the main k23 forum, the downloads link will point to > >sourceforge, etc.) :) > > > >As for the screenshots of icefire on the page - these are all of the > >current build (actually running from the VB IDE) so they're > certainly > >not vapourware or concept shots. As for the plugin/docklet > >interaction, my recent post on the forums explains this a > bit more but > >basically, I've moved the docklet:plugin relationship from 1:1 to > >1:many, plus you can now rearrange docklets within icefire. > You can't > >rearrange individual plugins yet but I will add a little gui > to do this > >and - eventually - you'll be able to drag plugins around > (and out of) > >icefire... > > > >As for this: > > > > > > > >>Did you notice that the link style of underline screws up the > >>main menu > >>graphic? > >> > >> > > > >Do you mean the orange bar? I'm using IE6.0 and they appear > fine to me > >- anyone else notice a problem? > > > >I now have a number of standalone plugins running quite happily in > >icefire so expect the SDK very soon now! =) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: 30Mil [mailto:30...@sc...] > >>Sent: 25 April 2004 17:02 > >>To: stan > >>Cc: la...@k2...; 'Mark Woan'; 'DaWeasal'; > >>nu...@si... > >>Subject: Re: New icefire site > >> > >> > >>Responding late - sorry :) > >>Not to be a stick in the mud but how come the new Icefire page is > >>completely separate of the K23 main site? > >>If it's a matter of "Can't do what I want with it if it's > just a page > >>inside MOS" then there is a plug in that lets you display > >>external pages > >>as main content. That way you can continue building the > >>external sites > >>while keeping all inside MOS. I feel it's less confusing for > >>the user. > >>One site, one url to bookmark. But I don't know if following links > >>inside that page would keep them inside MOS or open up a new page. > >> > >>Anyway .... > >>It looks awesome! Are those recent screen shots of Icefire? > >>Did the plug > >>ins change to docklets to break the "Plugin" mold? > >>Did you notice that the link style of underline screws up the > >>main menu > >>graphic? > >>Are you going to use a separate HTML page for downloads or use the > >>remository or DOCman module for downloads. > >>Btw Docman looks much nicer. I've been playing with it > >>locally it's it's > >>much better than remository. I'm going to switch my own > >>downloads at SC9 > >>to docman shortly. But unfortunately we can't get Zlib on the > >>site. Ken > >> > >>stan wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>In an effort to make things look pretty and to make finding things > >>>easier, I've set up a template for a new icefire mini-site here: > >>> > >>>http://icefire.k23productions.com > >>> > >>>(or here if the sub-domain doesn't work) > >>> > >>>http://www.k23productions.com/icefire > >>> > >>>The link at the main site could take people here, they can they > >>>download plugins, addons and the like from the mini-site. > >>> > >>>Comments anyone? :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > |
From: Chris P. <ch...@k2...> - 2004-04-17 11:08:53
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Just a test... |
From: stan <st...@k2...> - 2004-03-14 19:56:50
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From: Chris P. <ch...@k2...> - 2004-03-14 19:56:39
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From: caffo <ca...@ma...> - 2004-03-14 18:59:44
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