Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] Jsynthlib-devel Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1

[frankster <jsy...@te...>]

Vladimir,

Although I understand the frustration, I'm a bit skeptical about forking
the project because it would potentially throw away a lot of useful
stuff this project has built up - e.g. the documentation such as the
"how to add a synth guides" which seems quite accessible, links to the
sourceforge website etc. However its useless if noone who has patches
available can get them shared with other people easily. Looking back
through the list, not only have there been several posts from people who
have offered code that doesn't seem to have been included for whatever
reason, but the build issue that I fixed in about 5 minutes was reported
back in 2009! So the SVN has been broken for 2 years!

I propose a temporary alternative repository that we can use to get some
changes done until someone with svn access takes interest in the project
again. To get the ball rolling, I have created a git repository over at
gitorious.org and I have uploaded my patched version of the svn trunk to
it. Perhaps you might want to upload your SY77 code to it? Its at
https://gitorious.org/jsynthlib-temporary-development/jsynthlib-temp

I plan next to start working on support for my Proteus 2000 - I note
that you also have this synth so maybe we can work together on it.


Regards,

Frankie

On 31/08/2011 23:16, jsy...@li... wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:16:08 -0500
> From: Vladimir Avdonin <vl...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [Jsynthlib-devel] fixed build error in trunk
> To: jsy...@li...
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> Checking back archives of the list brings several offers from different people to contribute already made changes, like the one that started this thread. They all were "calmed down" all right because of absence of any activity from developers with svn access.
>
> In general, I would think Source Forge should allow creating branches in any project's repository by anyone, not just to registered developers of the project. That way actual changes can be published and tested by much broader audience, sort of wikipedia approach.
>
> I have deep respect to the work that have been done by creators of the project, but currently the project is not being improved, and does not accept any help being offered. And improvements can still be made in different parts of the project, not just adding drivers for new synths. Such state of affairs pretty much means dead project to me.
>
> I hope the project will be revived either as continuation of current line of development, or as a fork.
>
> As for doing something first - I already offered few months ago a librarian for yamaha sy77. Shall i dump it in form of patch onto the list?
>
> Regards,
> Vladimir
>
> On 08/31/2011 04:00 PM, Joachim wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > there were already some speaking about taking over/forking.
>> > All of them calmed down pretty soon.
>> >
>> > My advise is: Develop something new first and then eventually
>> > start thinking about a fork.
>> >
>> > But I'm pretty suer there is no need for a fork: If you want to do something,
>> > simply do it and don't just talk about doing it.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Joachim
>> >
>> > Am 31.08.2011 20:20, schrieb Vladimir Avdonin:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> The project definitely feels dead. Maybe it is time for someone with enough interest and time to fork it into fresh active project.
>>> >>
>>> >> I was considering forking myself, but was not sure I could commit to maintaining the whole project. I could contribute in developing and supporting few synths i have though - yamaha sy77, proteus 2000, alesis micron.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Vladimir
>>> >>
>>> >> On 08/30/2011 08:37 PM, frankster wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>> >>> I have downloaded the latest version of jsynthlib from svn and found
>>>> >>> that there are various problems with the code in trunk.
>>>> >>> * The RolandD10 driver seems to use features from Java 1.5 whereas the
>>>> >>> build.xml specifies version 1.4.2.
>>>> >>> * Some files are not encoded correctly causing warnings about unmappable
>>>> >>> characters. These occur in the YamahaDX7 and YamahaFS1R synth drivers.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I have updated the build.xml to specify Java 1.5 - this seems better
>>>> >>> than rewriting some of the RolandD10 driver. I have saved the relevant
>>>> >>> files in the Yamaha drivers as UTF8.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Is there anybody with SVN access that can put these fixes into the
>>>> >>> repository? Also if anybody wants a copy of these minor fixes off me
>>>> >>> before they find their way into SVN, then I can email the files that I
>>>> >>> have changed.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Looking at the mailing list, this project seems dead lately but maybe
>>>> >>> its just dormant ;) I have a couple of sound modules (Emu Proteus 2000
>>>> >>> and Roland U220) that are not supported by jsynthlib and I may be
>>>> >>> motivated to add support for them if there's anyone still interested in
>>>> >>> this project.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>> >>> Frankie
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
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