Thread: [Jsynthlib-devel] XioSynth patch editor, 2nd try

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Hi again,
I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got no  
answer.
Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?

Thanks.

boul

Hi boul

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Boulicault <
nic...@la...> wrote:

> Hi again,
> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got no
> answer.
> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> boul

I wonder if there is an active admin for the project .
Maybe we should look in the code to find the personal e-mail address of a
developer ?

Anyway, happy new year ;-)
Cheers
peter

I was a developper but I do not commit anything since a long time.
I made VFX driver and FS1R but I don't know the JsynthLib current status 
and latest development.
Maybe I could commit your work but I could not make a new release.
Actually I just don't know if I am still a developer...

--
denis

> Hi boul
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Boulicault <
> nic...@la...> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi again,
>> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got no
>> answer.
>> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> boul
>>     
>
>
> I wonder if there is an active admin for the project .
> Maybe we should look in the code to find the personal e-mail address of a
> developer ?
>
> Anyway, happy new year ;-)
> Cheers
> peter
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Hi everyone,
of course we have new admin from some time, it is Joe Emenaker.
Hello Joe! Are you still on this list?
Happy New Year!
Robert.

On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Peter Geirnaert wrote:

> Hi boul
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Boulicault <
> nic...@la...> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but  
>> got no
>> answer.
>> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept /  
>> refuse it ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> boul
>
>
> I wonder if there is an active admin for the project .
> Maybe we should look in the code to find the personal e-mail  
> address of a
> developer ?
>
>

Robert Wirski wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> of course we have new admin from some time, it is Joe Emenaker.
> Hello Joe! Are you still on this list?
>   
Yeah... still here.

I was hoping that some other lazy admin would pipe up. Didn't want to be 
"the new guy who gets stuck with all the work". :)

- Joe

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Joe Emenaker <jo...@em...> wrote:

> Robert Wirski wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > of course we have new admin from some time, it is Joe Emenaker.
> > Hello Joe! Are you still on this list?
> >
> Yeah... still here.
>
> I was hoping that some other lazy admin would pipe up. Didn't want to be
> "the new guy who gets stuck with all the work". :)
>
> - Joe

Hi Denis, Robert, Joe,
Great to hear from you guys, thanks for JSynthLib a ton!
I've never been an admin for any software project, and I'm also not a
programming expert, but if there's something I can do to help this project
...
JSynthLib deserves to be kept alive and kicking imo, where's the todo list ?
If there's a need for admins, please add me as an admin too .

I've seen the file section on the yahoo groups page needs some spam
cleaning, I could do that e.g. ...
And I'm eager to learn more Java and to improve JSynthLib, just like Michael
Hawkins.

All the best,
Peter

Hi Joe,
thanks for your reply.
Indeed I've been working with the current cvs version, and I don't think 
my code breaks anything.
It would be fine for me if you added me to the developers.
I'm already an admin on a few sourceforge projects, I wouldn't mind 
becoming one on JSynthLib too.
Anyway I'm glad to see this list (and project ?) alive again !

Regards.

Nicolas

PS : my sourceforge id is nboul
PS2 : maybe it would be a good idea to cleanup the admins and developers 
lists (we could ask all the current members if they wish to remain members)

Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Nicolas Boulicault wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got 
>> no  answer.
>> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?
>>   
> Uh... that would take... uh... "work". :)
>
> Have you compiled it against the current CVS code? Does it break 
> anything else? If it seems to be okay to you, then I can make you a 
> developer and you can commit it yourself.
>
> - Joe

I am also alive.  Before adding you as a developer I'd like to code
review at least your first commit.  Can you send a patch to the list?

On a related note, if this project because active again I think it
would be a good idea to make code reviews standard for all commits.
I've gotten used to using them at work, and in general having a second
set of eyes on each change helps increase code quality.
I'd recommend migrating to svn so we could use http://codereview.appspot.com
What do other people think of this idea?

 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Nicolas Boulicault
<nic...@la...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
> thanks for your reply.
> Indeed I've been working with the current cvs version, and I don't think
> my code breaks anything.
> It would be fine for me if you added me to the developers.
> I'm already an admin on a few sourceforge projects, I wouldn't mind
> becoming one on JSynthLib too.
> Anyway I'm glad to see this list (and project ?) alive again !
>
> Regards.
>
> Nicolas
>
> PS : my sourceforge id is nboul
> PS2 : maybe it would be a good idea to cleanup the admins and developers
> lists (we could ask all the current members if they wish to remain members)
>
> Joe Emenaker wrote:
> > Nicolas Boulicault wrote:
> >> Hi again,
> >> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got
> >> no  answer.
> >> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?
> >>
> > Uh... that would take... uh... "work". :)
> >
> > Have you compiled it against the current CVS code? Does it break
> > anything else? If it seems to be okay to you, then I can make you a
> > developer and you can commit it yourself.
> >
> > - Joe
>
>
>
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I don't know if my opinion counts but we at work have migrate to SVN too.
It takes a little time to adapt usage from CVS but it works well 
finally, especially with folders manipulation.
It's important to have conventions (or follow usual conventions) because 
it's a bit "generic" with not much concepts.
Actually I'm wondering if there is something like SVN but easier to use 
with merge or version diff for example.

--
denis

> I am also alive.  Before adding you as a developer I'd like to code
> review at least your first commit.  Can you send a patch to the list?
>
> On a related note, if this project because active again I think it
> would be a good idea to make code reviews standard for all commits.
> I've gotten used to using them at work, and in general having a second
> set of eyes on each change helps increase code quality.
> I'd recommend migrating to svn so we could use http://codereview.appspot.com
> What do other people think of this idea?
>
>  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Nicolas Boulicault
> <nic...@la...> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Joe,
>> thanks for your reply.
>> Indeed I've been working with the current cvs version, and I don't think
>> my code breaks anything.
>> It would be fine for me if you added me to the developers.
>> I'm already an admin on a few sourceforge projects, I wouldn't mind
>> becoming one on JSynthLib too.
>> Anyway I'm glad to see this list (and project ?) alive again !
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> PS : my sourceforge id is nboul
>> PS2 : maybe it would be a good idea to cleanup the admins and developers
>> lists (we could ask all the current members if they wish to remain members)
>>
>> Joe Emenaker wrote:
>>     
>>> Nicolas Boulicault wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi again,
>>>> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got
>>>> no  answer.
>>>> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept / refuse it ?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Uh... that would take... uh... "work". :)
>>>
>>> Have you compiled it against the current CVS code? Does it break
>>> anything else? If it seems to be okay to you, then I can make you a
>>> developer and you can commit it yourself.
>>>
>>> - Joe
>>>       
>>
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I'm in the area too, though I'm hiding so noone makes me do any work. =^p

On the migration to SVN:  Please do!  I believe SVN is the recommended 
repo at SourceForge anyway.  If you're running Windows, I highly 
recommend TortoiseSVN (as does SourceForge) over the command-line 
client.  Tortoise has visual diff built in, but WinMerge is awesome.

http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
http://winmerge.org/

On code reviews:  That's overkill for a project this small, and given 
how often this project stagnates, I believe *mandating* code reviews 
would be a bad idea.  Nonetheless, voluntary reviews would be a good 
experience.

-Bill Zwicky

Hi,
I attached a new version of xiosynth driver and modifications.
As stated in my first post, I'd like someone who knows the core better 
than me to check the modification in BankEditorFrame.java.
diff and tar were started from JSynthLib directory.

I don't know about the code reviews. (I'll check it since it sounds 
interesting) but I'd fully agree with a migration to svn.

Nicolas

Rib Rdb wrote:
> I am also alive.  Before adding you as a developer I'd like to code 
> review at least your first commit.  Can you send a patch to the list?
>
> On a related note, if this project because active again I think it 
> would be a good idea to make code reviews standard for all commits. 
> I've gotten used to using them at work, and in general having a second 
> set of eyes on each change helps increase code quality.
> I'd recommend migrating to svn so we could use 
> http://codereview.appspot.com
> What do other people think of this idea?
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Nicolas Boulicault 
> <nic...@la... 
> <mailto:nic...@la...>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Joe,
>     thanks for your reply.
>     Indeed I've been working with the current cvs version, and I don't
>     think
>     my code breaks anything.
>     It would be fine for me if you added me to the developers.
>     I'm already an admin on a few sourceforge projects, I wouldn't mind
>     becoming one on JSynthLib too.
>     Anyway I'm glad to see this list (and project ?) alive again !
>
>     Regards.
>
>     Nicolas
>
>     PS : my sourceforge id is nboul
>     PS2 : maybe it would be a good idea to cleanup the admins and
>     developers
>     lists (we could ask all the current members if they wish to remain
>     members)
>
>     Joe Emenaker wrote:
>     > Nicolas Boulicault wrote:
>     >> Hi again,
>     >> I wrote a post few days ago about Novation xioSynth support but got
>     >> no  answer.
>     >> Would any admin / developer have a look at that and accept /
>     refuse it ?
>     >>
>     > Uh... that would take... uh... "work". :)
>     >
>     > Have you compiled it against the current CVS code? Does it break
>     > anything else? If it seems to be okay to you, then I can make you a
>     > developer and you can commit it yourself.
>     >
>     > - Joe
>
>
>
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Rib Rdb wrote:
> I'd recommend migrating to svn so we could use 
> http://codereview.appspot.com
One advantage of SVN is that it supports *moving* of files to different 
directories.

Long ago, in a galaxy far away, we had talked about refactoring all of 
the core JSL code into a more-sensible package structure. The downside 
to this was going to be that, when we moved the files, CVS would treat 
this like the file getting deleted from its old location and a 
completely new file being created at some new location. So, there's a 
break in the "lineage".

Granted, I'm sure it's easy to just roll back to a previous tag point... 
but it would just make it harder to view the history of revisions to the 
file.

Now, this is kind of a moot point because, back then, I did a /lot/ of 
work on refactoring. I moved a lot of the files around, heavily rebuilt 
the way GUI events are delivered to the synth editors, overhauled the 
MIDI interface. Now, I never committed it, because it still had a couple 
of compile bugs that I wasn't sure how to fix.

But the point is: all of those changes were done with Jetbrains IDEA 
when it understood the source management to be through CVS, not SVN. So, 
I'm sure it hasn't bothered to remember that all of these files have 
moved. So, if we switch to SVN, and then I commit all of this stuff, 
then SVN (like CVS) will probably just see it as a bunch of file 
deletions and then new file creations.

- Joe

Hi,

> I've seen the file section on the yahoo groups page needs some spam
> cleaning, I could do that e.g. ...

the yahoo group is dead and obsolete.

Btw. I think it's funny that people new to this project start talking 
about
taking over before they have even proven themselves.

Cheers
Joachim