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From: frankster <jsy...@te...> - 2011-09-23 13:08:11
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If you go to jsynthlib.org it redirects to a tucows domain expiry page. It had loads of good info on there so before the 0.21 release we could do with either getting it back online, or alternatively mirroring all the docs from it elsewhere. frankie |
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From: frankster <jsy...@te...> - 2011-09-23 14:43:57
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On 09/23/11 14:07, frankster wrote: > If you go to jsynthlib.org it redirects to a tucows domain expiry page. > > It had loads of good info on there so before the 0.21 release we could > do with either getting it back online, or alternatively mirroring all > the docs from it elsewhere. > > frankie > > So I've emailed Brian Klock via sourceforge to let him know that the website has gone down and to find out if he's still got time for or is interested in jsynthlib. If he's not interested any more or doesn't reply, maybe we should set up mediawiki on the sourceforge project web page and duplicate the existing documentation on there? I have managed to get copies of info.html, doc.html, project.html and 3 zip files of packages - that's everything I could find apart from synths.html which is in svn) via the wayback machine. frankie |
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From: Joe E. <jo...@em...> - 2011-09-23 14:53:16
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On 9/23/2011 7:43 AM, frankster wrote: > I have managed to get copies of info.html, doc.html, project.html and > 3 zip files of packages - that's everything I could find apart from > synths.html which is in svn) via the wayback machine. Yeah... my vote would be for us to register jsynthlib.org (and soon, before some domain squatter snatches it). From past experience, it sounds like Brian has kinda moved on. I haven't seen him post to the list in years. So, I'd like to see us register it, get as much as we can from the wayback machine, and then we can update the pages. - Joe |
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From: frankster <jsy...@te...> - 2011-09-23 14:59:53
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On 09/23/11 15:53, Joe Emenaker wrote: > On 9/23/2011 7:43 AM, frankster wrote: >> I have managed to get copies of info.html, doc.html, project.html and >> 3 zip files of packages - that's everything I could find apart from >> synths.html which is in svn) via the wayback machine. > Yeah... my vote would be for us to register jsynthlib.org (and soon, > before some domain squatter snatches it). From past experience, it > sounds like Brian has kinda moved on. I haven't seen him post to the > list in years. So, I'd like to see us register it, get as much as we can > from the wayback machine, and then we can update the pages. > > - Joe > > I don't know how autorenew works, but judging by the whois, it looks like tucows have got the domain for a bit. Domain ID:D101476210-LROR Domain Name:JSYNTHLIB.ORG Created On:19-Sep-2003 08:11:39 UTC Last Updated On:23-Sep-2011 02:53:47 UTC Expiration Date:19-Sep-2012 08:11:39 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR) Status:OK Status:AUTORENEWPERIOD Registrant ID:tuSz2PZdhcZ8NLlj Registrant Name:Brian Klock Registrant Organization:Overwhelmed Organ frankie |
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From: Joe E. <jo...@em...> - 2011-09-23 15:04:01
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On 9/23/2011 7:59 AM, frankster wrote: > I don't know how autorenew works, but judging by the whois, it looks > like tucows have got the domain for a bit. Looks like the grace period at TUCOWS for .org is 30 days... ------- To renew or “redeem” a domain, please contactyour Domain Provider <http://www.tucowsdomains.com/topic/renewal-and-expiration/findprovider>. Expired domains are held at Tucows for a Grace Period defined by the Registry. *Partial list of Grace Periods:* * .COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, .US, .NAME, .TV and .CC – 40 days * .CA – 30 days * .UK domains resolve for 30 days past their expiration date after which they no longer reside with Tucows. Your Domain Provider can recover the domain for an additional 60 days by placing a transfer request for the domain. * .CN and .DE – have no Grace Period; they are deleted the day after their expiration date During the Grace Period, all services (such as the website and email) cease working until the name is renewed (if and when this happens). As well, name server/DNS changes are not possible. When the domain expires the DNS is temporarily changed, and a web page explaining the need for renewal may be shown. When the domain is renewed, the DNS will be changed back to the previous DNS entries. At the end of the Grace Period one of three things may happen: * The domain is marked for deletion, and with most types of domain names this will place the domain name enters a“Redemption Period” (also called “Pending Delete Restorable”) <http://www.tucowsdomains.com/topic/renewal-and-expiration/what-does-redemptionperiod-or-pending-delete-restorable-mean>, which is an additional period of time provided to recover the domain name. The cost to recover the domain will be more than the cost of a renewal, and recovery is only available to the former domain owner. The precise time when the domain is finally deleted depends on the Registry, but many domains are deleted 30-35 days after entering the Redemption Period. * A third party expresses interest in the expired domain name via an online auctioning system, and when the Grace Period ends, the domain is sold to the highest bidder. Domains that are auctioned off cannot be renewed or “redeemed”. * Tucows acquires the domain name for its private domain portfolio, and upon the Grace Period ending, the domain is not deleted. Should the former domain name owner inquire about obtaining the domain name via their Domain Provider <http://www.tucowsdomains.com/topic/renewal-and-expiration/findprovider>, the domain can be returned to them in a process similar to “redeeming” a domain. Additional recovery and administrative fees may apply. For information on renewing or redeeming your domain name please contact your Domain Provider directly <http://www.tucowsdomains.com/topic/renewal-and-expiration/findprovider>. |
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From: Joe E. <jo...@em...> - 2011-09-23 15:05:08
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Whoops. Sorry. 40 days. Should we mark our calendar? Or maybe TUCOWS or some other registrar has a "grab this for me the moment it becomes available" option... - Joe |
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From: frankster <jsy...@te...> - 2011-09-23 15:12:47
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Yes. It would be a disaster if a domain squatter got hold of this domain. Assuming Brian is no longer interested in the project, the best outcome is that we have some contact with brian before 40 days, and we can give him the money to re-register it and transfer it to one of us. A worse outcome would be the more expensive redemption period or an online auction after the 40 days. And the worst outcome would be a domain squatter getting the domain. If I my message sent via sourceforge doesn't get through to brian, is there any other email address or other way of contacting him? Maybe could write an international letter to the address listed on the domain registration - if the postal address is still valid! frankie On 09/23/11 16:04, Joe Emenaker wrote: > Whoops. Sorry. 40 days. > > Should we mark our calendar? Or maybe TUCOWS or some other registrar has > a "grab this for me the moment it becomes available" option... > > - Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Jsynthlib-devel mailing list > Jsy...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jsynthlib-devel |
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From: Joe E. <jo...@em...> - 2011-09-23 15:29:30
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On 9/23/2011 8:17 AM, Vladimir Avdonin wrote: > Hey, maybe this would be good moment to maybe contemplate on maybe > uhmm... name change? Actually, when we're on the verge of actually getting control of the domain... that would be the *last* time to contemplate it. :) The time to contemplate it is when Brian has the domain paid up for years and doesn't get back to us... or when a domain-squatter gets a hold of it and wants a lot of money. But, now that you've mentioned it... > JSynthLib sounds like library, not application. For this reason I passed > by it in searches when looking for synth applications. > > How about SynthJ for the first contest entry? I like that it's short, but it's still a little cryptic. I'm thinking that we might want some combination of two words: what it does stuff *with*, and what it *does* with them. Off the top of my head, only two words for each category come to mind: (Sysex|Synth)(Manager|Librarian) And then an optional "J" at the front. So, we could have something like "JSysexManager" (and, yes, I realize that one of the pairings, "JSynthLibrarian", is almost identical to what we have now). Anyway, just a thought. - Joe |
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From: frankster <jsy...@te...> - 2011-09-23 15:37:37
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On 09/23/11 16:29, Joe Emenaker wrote: > On 9/23/2011 8:17 AM, Vladimir Avdonin wrote: >> JSynthLib sounds like library, not application. For this reason I passed >> by it in searches when looking for synth applications. >> >> How about SynthJ for the first contest entry? > I like that it's short, but it's still a little cryptic. > > I'm thinking that we might want some combination of two words: what it > does stuff *with*, and what it *does* with them. Off the top of my head, > only two words for each category come to mind: > (Sysex|Synth)(Manager|Librarian) > > And then an optional "J" at the front. So, we could have something like > "JSysexManager" (and, yes, I realize that one of the pairings, > "JSynthLibrarian", is almost identical to what we have now). > If a name changed very far it could make it hard for people to find the project. I agree that the Lib suffix is confusing for the reason already stated. My vote would be to refer to it in documentation, release notes etc, as JSynthLibrarian, while keeping the domain name / sf project name the same. frankie |
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From: denis q. <dqu...@fr...> - 2011-09-23 15:42:42
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SynthyPatcher Sounds great in french ;) -- Denis How about SynthJ for the first contest entry? > I like that it's short, but it's still a little cryptic. > > I'm thinking that we might want some combination of two words: what it > does stuff *with*, and what it *does* with them. Off the top of my head, > only two words for each category come to mind: > (Sysex|Synth)(Manager|Librarian) > > And then an optional "J" at the front. So, we could have something like > "JSysexManager" (and, yes, I realize that one of the pairings, > "JSynthLibrarian", is almost identical to what we have now). > > Anyway, just a thought. > > - Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Jsynthlib-devel mailing list > Jsy...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jsynthlib-devel > |
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From: Vladimir A. <vl...@gm...> - 2011-09-23 15:17:13
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Hey, maybe this would be good moment to maybe contemplate on maybe uhmm... name change? JSynthLib sounds like library, not application. For this reason I passed by it in searches when looking for synth applications. How about SynthJ for the first contest entry? On 09/23/2011 10:04 AM, Joe Emenaker wrote: > Whoops. Sorry. 40 days. > > Should we mark our calendar? Or maybe TUCOWS or some other registrar has > a "grab this for me the moment it becomes available" option... > > - Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Jsynthlib-devel mailing list > Jsy...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jsynthlib-devel -- Vladimir |
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From: Joachim <li...@sd...> - 2011-09-23 18:19:33
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Hi, > I'm thinking that we might want some combination of two words: what it > does stuff *with*, and what it *does* with them. most applications have a name that doesn't imply it's use but are catchy, right? Gimp, Apache, Tomcat, JBoss, Inkscape, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Gnumeric, ... I think the catchyness is more important than implying it's use. SynthJ, JSysexManager or JSynthManager are not really an improvement. >> JSynthLib sounds like library, not application. For this reason I passed >> by it in searches when looking for synth applications. That's a point. If we start a name context I'll throw in: - Jones (*J*ava *O*pen source *N*ice *E*ditor and librarian for *S*ysex) - Jamidiquai - MIDIthang - No SysEx till marriage ;) May the winner get eternal praise. Cheers Joachim Am 23.09.2011 17:29, schrieb Joe Emenaker: > On 9/23/2011 8:17 AM, Vladimir Avdonin wrote: >> Hey, maybe this would be good moment to maybe contemplate on maybe >> uhmm... name change? > > Actually, when we're on the verge of actually getting control of the > domain... that would be the *last* time to contemplate it. :) The time > to contemplate it is when Brian has the domain paid up for years and > doesn't get back to us... or when a domain-squatter gets a hold of it > and wants a lot of money. > > But, now that you've mentioned it... > >> JSynthLib sounds like library, not application. For this reason I passed >> by it in searches when looking for synth applications. >> >> How about SynthJ for the first contest entry? > > I like that it's short, but it's still a little cryptic. > > I'm thinking that we might want some combination of two words: what it > does stuff *with*, and what it *does* with them. Off the top of my head, > only two words for each category come to mind: > (Sysex|Synth)(Manager|Librarian) > > And then an optional "J" at the front. So, we could have something like > "JSysexManager" (and, yes, I realize that one of the pairings, > "JSynthLibrarian", is almost identical to what we have now). > > Anyway, just a thought. > > - Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Jsynthlib-devel mailing list > Jsy...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jsynthlib-devel > |
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From: William Z. <wrz...@po...> - 2011-09-23 19:05:51
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Joachim <li...@sd...> wrote: > > most applications have a name that doesn't imply it's use but are catchy, > right? > Gimp, Apache, Tomcat, JBoss, Inkscape, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Gnumeric, > ... > Microsoft Word, VideoLAN Client, MySQL, VirtualBox, 7-Zip ... :^P -Bill Zwicky |
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