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[Jscheme-user] profiling

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

We now have Jscheme programs that can run for several days processing data.

We'd like to have a way of profiling JScheme applications.

Compiling to java and using the java profiler doesn't work, because all procedures in a file are compiled into one Java procedure which is a giant case statement.  So timing is lumped together.  I guess i could write each procedure to its own file, but Yow!

Our concerns are localized enough we may be able to wrap some timing code at the right place an learn something.  But i thought i'd ask the group about what might be a good approach to profiling.  I'm currently thinking of locally redefining define to wrap timing code around a definition.  That way we can focus porfiling to the procedures we think are likely suspects.

Your thoughts on this topic are welcome!

[Jscheme-user] let*

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

I've rewritten the let* macro which generated an unnecessary (lambda () ,body)
around the body of the let*.

JScheme passed all of its tests, but i just thought i'd warn people.

If you find a problem related to this let me know.  If there is i'm sure i'll find it tomorrow, if not tonight.

We could add tests but should we test that let and let* evaluate to the right thing or macroexpand into what we expect.

k

[Jscheme-user] IDE integration: how to manage different environments in the same JVM?

[Michael R H. <bu...@cs...>]

As I posted before, I'm working on an Eclipse plugin for JScheme, and
I'm running across some problems, so I figured I'd post to the list to
see what suggestions people came up with.

Basically, for each .scm file the user is editing, I want to be able to
support "intelligent completion" or at the very least, knowledgeable
syntax highlighting. By this I mean, I want to know all (and only) the
symbols that would be loaded up to the cursor point. What's more, I want
this table of symbols to be different for each editor. 

If I'm working on on jlib app in one window and a network server app in
another window, I don't want the symbols imported by (or defined in) the
network program to be available in the jlib app, unless of course the
jlib app loads the network server.

One possible solution I've heard is to use a prefix when I load the
file. I would set the symbol prefix to be the full path to the file
(presumably) and this would effectively create namespaces for each file
being edited. Would this be effective? Is there a better way?

mike

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Re: [Jscheme-user] draft JScheme icons

[Geoffrey K. <gk...@ma...>]

You may use the icons under CPL.  I may polish the icons at some future 
date.  If I do, I'll let you know.  I have to get through this week 
first (work + conference).  --Geoffrey

On Wednesday, Mar 26, 2003, at 00:08 US/Eastern, Michael R Head wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 06:09, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>> I put some draft icons for JScheme here:
>>
>> http://knauth.org/gsk/images/jscheme/icons/
>>
>> 48x48, 32x32 and 16x16
>
> Cool! I'm going to grab them and include them in my plugin. Let me know
> (via the list) if you update them.
>
> I'm planning on licensing my plugin under CPL
> [http://www.eclipse.org/legal/cpl-v10.html], and it'll be simplest if I
> can license the icons under the same. I'll mention you as the 
> originator
> of the icons (and include your email address if you wish) in a README 
> or
> CONTRIBUTORS file or something.
>
> mike
>
>> They're free to use, not use, adapt, etc.
>>
>> Geoffrey
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Re: [Jscheme-user] draft JScheme icons

[Michael R H. <bu...@cs...>]

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 06:09, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
> I put some draft icons for JScheme here:
> 
> http://knauth.org/gsk/images/jscheme/icons/
> 
> 48x48, 32x32 and 16x16

Cool! I'm going to grab them and include them in my plugin. Let me know
(via the list) if you update them.

I'm planning on licensing my plugin under CPL
[http://www.eclipse.org/legal/cpl-v10.html], and it'll be simplest if I
can license the icons under the same. I'll mention you as the originator
of the icons (and include your email address if you wish) in a README or
CONTRIBUTORS file or something.

mike

> They're free to use, not use, adapt, etc.
> 
> Geoffrey
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[Jscheme-user] New Sourceforge release

[Timothy H. <tim...@ma...>]

I've made a sourceforge release of our current CVS source tree

The release has three files:
    jscheme_6_1.jar  (the "binary" jar file)
    jscheme_6_1.tgz (the source tree as a tar ball)
    jscheme_6_1.zip (the source tree as a zip file)
It has been about a year since the last release.

---Tim---

[Jscheme-user] draft JScheme icons

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

I put some draft icons for JScheme here:

http://knauth.org/gsk/images/jscheme/icons/

48x48, 32x32 and 16x16

They're free to use, not use, adapt, etc.

Geoffrey

Re: [Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Michael R H. <bu...@cs...>]

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 09:23, Ken Anderson wrote:
> My daughter is a graphic designer.  If you send me suggestions, we'll come up with some examples.  
> 
> When JScheme was called Silk, i thought the logo should be of Duke in a WW I aviator cap, and a silk scarf layed out as a lambda.
> 
> Maybe now it should be a coffee cup with a lambda on it.

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Simple, to the point, and
could easily fit in a 16x16 icon. 

mike

> 
> k
> At 06:07 PM 3/23/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
> >I have a Mac, and some neat graphics software from Stone Design, maybe I could come up with something.
> >
> >On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 17:59 US/Eastern, Michael R Head wrote:
> >
> >>Anyone got a JScheme logo or icon? I'm building a plug-in for Eclipse
> >>for JScheme [ http://zclipse.org/projects/jscheme/ ], and I'd really
> >>like to use a standard icon, rather than building whatever crummy icon I
> >>cook up with my extremely poor graphics design skills.
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Re: [Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

Earlier this morning I took a photograph of a cup of freshly brewed 
coffee, with ".java$" taped to the front of the coffee cup, so I 
wouldn't have to figure out viewpoints when dealing with fonts.  I'll 
run the photo through GIMP and IconComposer during my next coffee break.

I thought maybe a few wispy lambdas rising as steam from the cup might 
be nice, but first I want to see how the photo looks in GIMP.  I took 
the photo so close-up it's a little fuzzy, but maybe when that gets 
reduced down to 128x128, 48x48, 32x32 and 16x16 it will look OK.

I'll be interested to see what your daughter can do with it too (and on 
her own).

Geoffrey

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:23 US/Eastern, Ken Anderson wrote:

> My daughter is a graphic designer.  If you send me suggestions, we'll 
> come up with some examples.
>
> When JScheme was called Silk, i thought the logo should be of Duke in 
> a WW I aviator cap, and a silk scarf layed out as a lambda.
>
> Maybe now it should be a coffee cup with a lambda on it.
>
> k
> At 06:07 PM 3/23/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>> I have a Mac, and some neat graphics software from Stone Design, 
>> maybe I could come up with something.
>>
>> On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 17:59 US/Eastern, Michael R Head wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone got a JScheme logo or icon? I'm building a plug-in for Eclipse
>>> for JScheme [ http://zclipse.org/projects/jscheme/ ], and I'd really
>>> like to use a standard icon, rather than building whatever crummy 
>>> icon I
>>> cook up with my extremely poor graphics design skills.
>>
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Re: [Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

My daughter is a graphic designer.  If you send me suggestions, we'll come up with some examples.  

When JScheme was called Silk, i thought the logo should be of Duke in a WW I aviator cap, and a silk scarf layed out as a lambda.

Maybe now it should be a coffee cup with a lambda on it.

k
At 06:07 PM 3/23/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>I have a Mac, and some neat graphics software from Stone Design, maybe I could come up with something.
>
>On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 17:59 US/Eastern, Michael R Head wrote:
>
>>Anyone got a JScheme logo or icon? I'm building a plug-in for Eclipse
>>for JScheme [ http://zclipse.org/projects/jscheme/ ], and I'd really
>>like to use a standard icon, rather than building whatever crummy icon I
>>cook up with my extremely poor graphics design skills.
>
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Re: [Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Michael R H. <bu...@cs...>]

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 18:07, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
> I have a Mac, and some neat graphics software from Stone Design, maybe 
> I could come up with something.

Cool. I'd like to see a 16x16 and maybe a 32x32 icon for my purposes.

mike

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[Jscheme-user] Re: nice comparison of Lisp and Python

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

Yes.  Its very nice.  It would be very nice if we could add a Ruby comparison to it.  Jython is a nice addition to Java applications because it compiles to bytecode with just the JRE (no development environment required).

It may be that the main remaining advantage of Lisp is the ability to define new domain specific languages.  This may seem like an advanced feature, but the idea is to start with Scheme and build the language you want your application written in.  Lisp applications can have 6+ such langauges easily.

src/using/run.scm is an example.  It provides a shell scripting language in 3 macros, and about 400 lines of code and documentation.

At 12:43 AM 3/23/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>http://www.norvig.com/python-lisp.html

Re: [Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

I have a Mac, and some neat graphics software from Stone Design, maybe 
I could come up with something.

On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 17:59 US/Eastern, Michael R Head wrote:

> Anyone got a JScheme logo or icon? I'm building a plug-in for Eclipse
> for JScheme [ http://zclipse.org/projects/jscheme/ ], and I'd really
> like to use a standard icon, rather than building whatever crummy icon 
> I
> cook up with my extremely poor graphics design skills.

[Jscheme-user] JScheme logo?

[Michael R H. <bu...@cs...>]

Anyone got a JScheme logo or icon? I'm building a plug-in for Eclipse
for JScheme [ http://zclipse.org/projects/jscheme/ ], and I'd really
like to use a standard icon, rather than building whatever crummy icon I
cook up with my extremely poor graphics design skills.

mike

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Brandeis University CS graduate student

Re: [Jscheme-user] how to get function symbol, given function closure?

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

Yes, silly me, I did define `member?' before I realized you already had 
`member', which I'll use.  Thanks.  --Geoffrey

On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 17:48 US/Eastern, Ken Anderson wrote:

> And you must have defined your own member? procedure.
> Scheme has member and memq.  They do not end in "?" because they are 
> not strictly predicates, they return #f or the sublist containing the 
> matching member.
>
> k
> At 10:04 AM 3/22/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>> THANK YOU Tim!  It worked!  That is:  (string->symbol (.name$ x))
>>
>> And to answer your question, c-modules is a list of symbols, not 
>> closures, though I could have made a list of closures too.
>>
>> Geoffrey
>>
>> On Saturday, Mar 22, 2003, at 09:51 US/Eastern, Timothy Hickey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geoffrey,
>>>  How is c-modules defined in your application?
>>> You can access the name of closure, f, (as a string) using
>>>  (.name$ f)
>>> So perhaps you could use
>>>  (define (name-in-c-module? x)
>>>     (member (string->symbol (.name$ x)) c-module))
>>>
>>> Or, if c-module was a list of closures, then you could just use 
>>> member directly.
>>>
>>> Does this help?
>>> ---Tim---
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have some code that looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> (define (foo-helper for-real module debug)
>>>>        ((let (args     ((cond ((member? module a-modules) 
>>>> a-decription)
>>>>                        ((cond ((member? module b-modules) (cons 
>>>> d-ds (list a-description)))
>>>>                        ((cond ((member? module c-modules) (cons 
>>>> t-ds (list a-description)))
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Generally, module is a Closure, which takes 1 or 2 args.
>>>>
>>>> Let's say module is AFUNC (the closure, not the symbol).
>>>>
>>>>> AFUNC
>>>> Closure AFUNC[2] (T_DESCR C_DESCR)
>>>>> (member? AFUNC c-modules)
>>>> #f
>>>>> (member? 'AFUNC c-modules)
>>>> #t
>>>>> c-modules
>>>> (BOOFUNC FOOFUNC ZOOFUNC AFUNC BLAHFUNC ...)
>>>>
>>>> How do I get (member? (<something> module) c-modules) to return #t ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Jscheme-user] how to get function symbol, given function closure?

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

And you must have defined your own member? procedure.
Scheme has member and memq.  They do not end in "?" because they are not strictly predicates, they return #f or the sublist containing the matching member.

k
At 10:04 AM 3/22/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>THANK YOU Tim!  It worked!  That is:  (string->symbol (.name$ x))
>
>And to answer your question, c-modules is a list of symbols, not closures, though I could have made a list of closures too.
>
>Geoffrey
>
>On Saturday, Mar 22, 2003, at 09:51 US/Eastern, Timothy Hickey wrote:
>
>>Hi Geoffrey,
>>  How is c-modules defined in your application?
>>You can access the name of closure, f, (as a string) using
>>  (.name$ f)
>>So perhaps you could use
>>  (define (name-in-c-module? x)
>>     (member (string->symbol (.name$ x)) c-module))
>>
>>Or, if c-module was a list of closures, then you could just use member directly.
>>
>>Does this help?
>>---Tim---
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>>
>>>I have some code that looks like this:
>>>
>>>(define (foo-helper for-real module debug)
>>>        ((let (args     ((cond ((member? module a-modules) a-decription)
>>>                        ((cond ((member? module b-modules) (cons d-ds (list a-description)))
>>>                        ((cond ((member? module c-modules) (cons t-ds (list a-description)))
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>Generally, module is a Closure, which takes 1 or 2 args.
>>>
>>>Let's say module is AFUNC (the closure, not the symbol).
>>>
>>>> AFUNC
>>>Closure AFUNC[2] (T_DESCR C_DESCR)
>>>> (member? AFUNC c-modules)
>>>#f
>>>> (member? 'AFUNC c-modules)
>>>#t
>>>> c-modules
>>>(BOOFUNC FOOFUNC ZOOFUNC AFUNC BLAHFUNC ...)
>>>
>>>How do I get (member? (<something> module) c-modules) to return #t ?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Geoffrey
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Jscheme-user] how to get function symbol, given function closure?

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

THANK YOU Tim!  It worked!  That is:  (string->symbol (.name$ x))

And to answer your question, c-modules is a list of symbols, not 
closures, though I could have made a list of closures too.

Geoffrey

On Saturday, Mar 22, 2003, at 09:51 US/Eastern, Timothy Hickey wrote:

> Hi Geoffrey,
>   How is c-modules defined in your application?
> You can access the name of closure, f, (as a string) using
>   (.name$ f)
> So perhaps you could use
>   (define (name-in-c-module? x)
>      (member (string->symbol (.name$ x)) c-module))
>
> Or, if c-module was a list of closures, then you could just use member 
> directly.
>
> Does this help?
> ---Tim---
>
>
> On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>
>> I have some code that looks like this:
>>
>> (define (foo-helper for-real module debug)
>> 	((let (args	((cond ((member? module a-modules) a-decription)
>> 			((cond ((member? module b-modules) (cons d-ds (list 
>> a-description)))
>> 			((cond ((member? module c-modules) (cons t-ds (list 
>> a-description)))
>> [...]
>>
>> Generally, module is a Closure, which takes 1 or 2 args.
>>
>> Let's say module is AFUNC (the closure, not the symbol).
>>
>> > AFUNC
>> Closure AFUNC[2] (T_DESCR C_DESCR)
>> > (member? AFUNC c-modules)
>> #f
>> > (member? 'AFUNC c-modules)
>> #t
>> > c-modules
>> (BOOFUNC FOOFUNC ZOOFUNC AFUNC BLAHFUNC ...)
>>
>> How do I get (member? (<something> module) c-modules) to return #t ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Geoffrey
>>
>>
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[Jscheme-user] how to get function symbol, given function closure?

[Geoffrey K. <ge...@kn...>]

I have some code that looks like this:

(define (foo-helper for-real module debug)
	((let (args	((cond ((member? module a-modules) a-decription)
			((cond ((member? module b-modules) (cons d-ds (list a-description)))
			((cond ((member? module c-modules) (cons t-ds (list a-description)))
[...]

Generally, module is a Closure, which takes 1 or 2 args.

Let's say module is AFUNC (the closure, not the symbol).

 > AFUNC
Closure AFUNC[2] (T_DESCR C_DESCR)
 > (member? AFUNC c-modules)
#f
 > (member? 'AFUNC c-modules)
#t
 > c-modules
(BOOFUNC FOOFUNC ZOOFUNC AFUNC BLAHFUNC ...)

How do I get (member? (<something> module) c-modules) to return #t ?

Thanks,
Geoffrey

Re: [Jscheme-user] quasi string bug?

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

This was my problem.  i entered a string with "\\"" in it then the reader got confused.  Maybe we need to make it more robust or have a way to reseet it.

At 11:41 AM 3/18/2003 -0500, Ken Anderson wrote:
>I'm trying to make strings that are regular expressions:
>
>> "[NSEW]"
>"(\\d+)\"\n\""
>> "[NSEW]"
>> "[NSEW]"
>"\"\n\""
>> "[NSEW]"
>> "[-.]"
>"\"\n\""
>> Javadot WARNING: Can't find class -
>SchemeException:[[ERROR: undefined variable "-."""]]
>        at jsint.E.error(E.java:14)
>        at jsint.E.error(E.java:19)
>        at jsint.DynamicEnvironment.getValue(DynamicEnvironment.java:102)
>        at jsint.DynamicVariable.getDynamicValue(DynamicVariable.java:13)
>        at jsint.Scheme.execute(Scheme.java:498)
>        at jsint.Scheme.eval(Scheme.java:425)
>        at jsint.Scheme.eval(Scheme.java:414)
>        at jsint.Scheme.readEvalWriteLoop(Scheme.java:208)
>        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
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[Jscheme-user] quasi string bug?

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

I'm trying to make strings that are regular expressions:

> "[NSEW]"
"(\\d+)\"\n\""
> "[NSEW]"
> "[NSEW]"
"\"\n\""
> "[NSEW]"
> "[-.]"
"\"\n\""
> Javadot WARNING: Can't find class -
SchemeException:[[ERROR: undefined variable "-."""]]
	at jsint.E.error(E.java:14)
	at jsint.E.error(E.java:19)
	at jsint.DynamicEnvironment.getValue(DynamicEnvironment.java:102)
	at jsint.DynamicVariable.getDynamicValue(DynamicVariable.java:13)
	at jsint.Scheme.execute(Scheme.java:498)
	at jsint.Scheme.eval(Scheme.java:425)
	at jsint.Scheme.eval(Scheme.java:414)
	at jsint.Scheme.readEvalWriteLoop(Scheme.java:208)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)

Re: [Jscheme-user] interrupt

[Geoffrey K. <gk...@ma...>]

Thanks!  I'll give it a whirl.  --Geoffrey

On Thursday, Mar 13, 2003, at 09:03 US/Eastern, Ken Anderson wrote:

> I've provided a simple interrupt capability for JScheme.
>
> You can get an interrupt button for your current thread by doing:
>
>> (load "elf/interrupt.scm")
> #t
>> (interruptButton)
>
> Clicking on the interrupt button  will interrupt JScheme execution on 
> that thread.
> It will not stop Java code, such as reading or writing a huge data 
> structure.
> We could put code like:
>
> if (Scheme.INTERRUPTABLE) Scheme.interruptCheck();
>
> in various while loops in JScheme's java code, but i thought we should 
> gain some experience on how useful the button is first.
>
> k
>
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[Jscheme-user] interrupt

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

I've provided a simple interrupt capability for JScheme.

You can get an interrupt button for your current thread by doing:

> (load "elf/interrupt.scm")
#t
> (interruptButton)

Clicking on the interrupt button  will interrupt JScheme execution on that thread.
It will not stop Java code, such as reading or writing a huge data structure.
We could put code like:

if (Scheme.INTERRUPTABLE) Scheme.interruptCheck();

in various while loops in JScheme's java code, but i thought we should gain some experience on how useful the button is first.

k

Re: [Jscheme-user] way to stop loading a file?

[Ken A. <kan...@bb...>]

If you you can manage to do (set! Scheme.EXIT$ #t)  the loading of foo.scm would stop.  However, there is a bigger issue of runway computation.

So i tried putting this code:

          if (INTERRUPTABLE && Thread.currentThread().interrupted())
            throw new JschemeThrowable("Execution was interrupted.");

in Scheme.execute() before each procedure call.  I've enclosed timings of two tight loops, which shows that when INTERRUPTABLE is #f performance is maybe 3% worse, and when INTERRUPTABLE is #t its about twice as slow.
This may not be too bad, because these are worst cases and you don't need to turn INTERRUPTABLE on until you want to use it.

An alternative that would be faster would be
          if (INTERRUPT) {
            INTERRUPT = false;
            throw new JschemeThrowable("Execution was interrupted.");
          }
This would interrupt the currently running thread, which may often be the one you want to kill.

Let me know what you think.  I prefer the first approach.

At 07:01 AM 3/9/2003 -0500, Geoffrey Knauth wrote:
>Let's say I'm in the middle of loading a file foo.scm.
>
>I get part of the way through the file, and then I realize some core data structures are messed up.  I want to signal an error and stop loading foo.scm, but I may not want to leave the JScheme interpreter.  
>Can I do that (leave foo.scm but not JScheme)?
>
>Geoffrey
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[Jscheme-user] Re: Sourceforge

[Timothy H. <tim...@ma...>]

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 02:51 AM, Boris Tschirschwitz wrote:

>>> I checked the list archives for answers,
>> Thanks for checking first!
>>
>>> but I couldn't find
>>> anything and the sf system seems to be really terrible.
>> What made it so horrible? Response time, organization,...?
>
> I was hoping for a search option--enter 'object' and get all emails
> containing that word--but didn't find it. The monthly view didn't seem 
> to
> show the expected results either and the daily check was a pain, so I 
> just
> went through the titles by the hundeds--fortunately there are not so
> many, yet. Well, lots of 'cvs update'.
Thanks for the report.
There actually is a "search" feature, but its over in the 
sourceforge.net panel on the
left side and has a "search This Mailing List" option.
I don't know why they put it over there, it is way too easy to miss.

Actually running a search with the word "classes" brings up about a dozen
entries (including some using JavaAssist which I had forgotten about..., 
yet
another way to create dynamic Java classes).



>
> Anyway, thanks a lot for the detailed answer, I'll study it next
> weekend--after all, there's a thesis to write...
First things first!

Good luck,
---Tim---

>
> Boris.
>

[Jscheme-user] Sourceforge

[Boris T. <bo...@ma...>]

> > I checked the list archives for answers,
> Thanks for checking first!
>
> > but I couldn't find
> > anything and the sf system seems to be really terrible.
> What made it so horrible? Response time, organization,...?

I was hoping for a search option--enter 'object' and get all emails
containing that word--but didn't find it. The monthly view didn't seem to
show the expected results either and the daily check was a pain, so I just
went through the titles by the hundeds--fortunately there are not so
many, yet. Well, lots of 'cvs update'.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the detailed answer, I'll study it next
weekend--after all, there's a thesis to write...

Boris.