RE: [Josgui-devel] FW: JOS GUI
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From: Matthew S. <mps...@un...> - 2000-09-22 05:06:20
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I think the Rheise-OS will capture everything we need, so we won't have to do anything. Bob, I believe he even has tasks and whatnot, so your task manager suddenly becomes easier. It's just the backend that we needed. Matt -----Original Message----- From: jos...@li... [mailto:jos...@li...]On Behalf Of Bill Groppe Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:38 PM To: jos...@li... Subject: RE: [Josgui-devel] FW: JOS GUI If you reclass the swing components, you don't have to worry about it. A regular app will start up, create a frame and go. It won't even now that the frame is a JInternalFrame as opposed to a regular one. Becuase JFrame and Frame will both instantiate JInternalFrame instead of there regular classes. You're probably right though, we should work with rheise, to get things going. -Bill On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote: > That still doesn't handle when regular Java applications start up. If we > were able to catch the frame creation events and add them to a > JInternalFrame in the desktop, then that would be a cool way to do it, but I > have no idea how to catch those events. I think the best option is to work > with the rheise OS and get things started from within that. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: jos...@li... > [mailto:jos...@li...]On Behalf Of Bill > Groppe > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:17 PM > To: jos...@li... > Subject: Re: [Josgui-devel] FW: JOS GUI > > > > > Ok, here's my 2 cents. I'm certainly not as experienced as you guys are, > but > why not use desktop manager? > > If we take the src to the swing library and make all the > dialogs/frames/windows inherit from JInternalFrame, wouldn't that get us > alot > of the functionality we're looking for? > > One JDesktop Frame would contain all the other frames. The developers of > other > apps wouldn't ahve to worry about porting, and some of the functionality is > already there. > > Please let me know what you think. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > Here's some ideas. > > > > Matt > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Iain Shigeoka [mailto:iai...@me...] > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:47 PM > > To: Matthew Schmidt > > Subject: RE: JOS GUI > > > > > > At 12:12 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >Well currently we were relying on whatever Swing and the core Java > classes > > >for showing the GUI. I hadn't really thought about talking directly to > the > > >video drivers. We had assumed that JOS would be packaging something > > similar > > >to the Java core classes and swing with the OS, then we'd use those. > > > > Yes. Eventually JOS will do so (implement swing independently). For now, > > swing on xwindows will work though and it probably is a different project > > to actually implement swing directly on video drivers. So for your GUI is > > this doing a desktop and window manager in swing? Will other java > > swing/awt applications need to be specially tweaked to work with your gui > > or will it work transparently? > > > > Finally, I know you're looking into ways to launch gui aps and do start > > menus and docks. How you checked out the webstart technology from sun? I > > was thinking that might make a perfect installation/update/uninstall > > technology for jos to adopt for all software installation/configuration. > > > > >PS> I don't have any experience with video drivers, so if we need to > > >implement that way, we're going to need someone else with that kind of > > >experience on the team. > > > > OK. I think we'll make that a separate project as its more a library > > porting issue (swing on a raw graphics device) than anything specifically > > GUI related. > > > > -iain > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Iain Shigeoka [mailto:iai...@ya...] > > >Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:48 AM > > >To: Matthew Schmidt > > >Subject: Re: JOS GUI > > > > > > > > >At 12:21 AM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Potential Subsystems to replace: > > > > X-Windows window manager > > > > X-Windows itself > > > > > > > >When looking over your wiki page, I noticed these two things for Rome > > 1.4. > > > >Currently myself and 3 others (presently) are working on a windowing > > system > > > >for JOS to be used whenever it gets on it's feet enough to use it. > We've > > > >got lots of great ideas for this system, and it's coming along quiet > > nicely > > > >so far. I just released the first version of the media player that is > > >going > > > >to go with it. I just wanted to let you know that we were working on > > this. > > > >We'd work on something more pressing towards the front, but our > > experience > > > >is mostly GUI work and we fit in best here. > > > > > >I checked it out. It looks really nice. Thanks for the update. Once > the > > >re-org is underway, I think we should really help to promote your work > > >because I didn't even know it was happening! Does your GUI rely on X > > >windows or does it talk directly to the video drivers? > > > > > >-iain > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Josgui-devel mailing list > > Jos...@li... > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/josgui-devel > _______________________________________________ > Josgui-devel mailing list > Jos...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/josgui-devel > > _______________________________________________ > Josgui-devel mailing list > Jos...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/josgui-devel _______________________________________________ Josgui-devel mailing list Jos...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/josgui-devel |