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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-21 12:53:33
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Dear Open Source developer I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate. You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it. With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development. With many thanks for your participation, Benno Luthiger PS: The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/. We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list. _______________________________________________________________________ Benno Luthiger Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich 8092 Zurich Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch _______________________________________________________________________ |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-03-05 10:52:33
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Yet another article for your perusal. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-03-04 12:48:15
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There is now a voting procedure and voting score page up on the WikiWeb http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?wikiid=1689&doc=DwarfChat Please, everyone, check it out, and make any changes you want to the contract/admins/software proposals, notifying this list when you do so, so we know to check what's changed. Also remember the voting procedure page has only been around about five minutes and so probably full of holes, but so long as you get the drift. :) Phil _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-03-04 09:47:56
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> > At work we run about 5 public facing redhat boxes...blah blah... > >I'm responsible for/wrote the code that does billing of BT Openworld >customers who pay by DD and credit card (yes, if it fucks up, blame me) >and have access to the live box, root access to the dev box (all HP-UX) >etc etc. Just cos that all sounds pretty important, it doesn't make me >a UNIX god. yeah, i know, sorry, i was trying to make a point that the implied-by-asuma constant security updates we're going to have to make aren't going to happen, rather than anything else. _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-03-03 09:37:50
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>I just want to get the thing moving :) Indeed. I'm going to sit down, shut up (and sulk :p), but let's get going. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-02-27 13:32:14
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As of tomorrow, I'm intending on making JBoss the default container for Joggle. This is so we can have better database pooling and access to things like Email via JNDI. These can all be done through Tomcat, but not as effectively. JBoss's dynamic deployment should also help speed up development time. Phil _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-02-10 17:17:59
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In fact, given the huge amount of (good) development that's gone into MT, would it not be better to try and use that in some way? That way we keep ourselves as open as possible, and Joggle becomes JAJP (just another jabber plugin), but hopefully, a fairly useful one. Does this also mean that Joggle is, and should be (?) just a gateway for blogging (we can xml-rpc to almost any blog content manager, and can easily provide a static page or two to set config prefs)? I think i'm losing sight of our goal. :) Someone remind me. :) _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-02-10 16:48:18
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I know I'm a bit biased because I'm a web developer, but as far as I can see we should try and follow the model of Movable Type, which is XHTML compliance for sites, which can then be themed using CSS. If we want to take this further, we can give a theme a name, then have dir structure themes/themename/ which stores themename.css and any images which are themed too (stuff like links or "next", "home" arrows, you know the kind of thing). _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Gareth S. <G.S...@ZO...> - 2003-02-04 10:01:43
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Indeed, and if we made them go even higher, we could use templates. Might limit uptake though. Like anyone's going to use it bar us!!! :) -----Original Message----- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phi...@ib...] Sent: 04 February 2003 09:49 To: Gareth Simpson Subject: RE: comments If we force users to use JDK1.4 or higher, we can scrap the database connection pooling stuff and use JNDI to let the container deal with it. morning. :) |
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From: Gareth S. <G.S...@ZO...> - 2003-01-31 09:51:03
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Here's a first stab at some documentation for joggle. Its a kind of hybrid specification and design doc and doesn't do either job particularly well, but at least will have us all "on the same page" and other such management speak nonsense. |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 17:03:17
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oops, forgot the "sections" part of that subject - if we're to allow article (story) categorisation to multiple levels (which I think is the ideal - 2 levels - maybe one on your personal site and one on the community one? - e.g. the community server is allowed articles posted directly to it (normal submit story) and can also have articles posted from weblogs on its front page (personal category="politics" and community server="news" perhaps), then the current DB tables don't hold up, and nor do the methods like isOwner or whatever there is that takes in a section ID. of course, it feels very late, and I may not just be seeing the obvious, and it can be done. Phil _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 17:01:22
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Just to let you know, I'm planning on writing a load of servlets to replace all the current functionality that we have bundled into JSPs - that is, almost every page that allows user input will have a form which posts to a servlet, which then calls to the JoggleServer class to ask for something to be done. The servlets will also do the redirection to success/failure pages, and whatever else is necessary. All core functionality will remain in the Handler classes. I'm going to try and get something running by the end of the week, but of course, without the templating stuff. This will be separate from the Jabber stuff until we can decide what to do about usernames etc. Phil _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 16:31:22
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The phpBB developers have already made efforts to integrate Jabber, it seems, although it doesn't seem to be especially widespread. http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=43942 http://phpjabber.g-blog.net/HomePage _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 15:02:54
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some links you may find interesting/useful http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/04/17/wblogosj2ee.html?page=2 http://www.movabletype.org/ http://www.intertwingly.net/stories/2003/01/26/evolve.html http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/10/21/community.html http://www.hitormiss.org/projects/trackback/ http://www.movabletype.org/docs/mttrackback.html http://themes.userland.com/ http://www.javanovic.com/articles/authentication _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 14:29:18
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Jalopy is now built into the build process, and is in CVS (apologies to modem users!). so for now, to compile the code $>ant compile to format the code $>ant format to produce a war file $>ant dist Always format the code and correct errors before committing it to CVS. Phil _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 |
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From: Phil W. <pip...@ho...> - 2003-01-29 12:28:12
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There's now a new build file and WEB-INF directory all of which means you can compile Joggle into a jar or war file at will now. In other news, each site (because of course blogs work just like sites that only the owner can post new stories too) is going to need several templates for each type of page viewable, each with a standard name. A five-minute roundup (mainly stolen from http://www.movabletype.org/default_templates.shtml) suggests: for main community site: Main Index Master Archive Index Category Archive Submit Article Template (with primary and secondary topic categorisation) Article Preview Template Article Error Template Comment Preview Template Comment Error Template Article Template (plus first x following comments and "make comment" box) Comments Template (i.e. comments after the first x after the article) RSS 1.0 Index for blogs (where comments are a pop-up, not in-line with an article): Main Index Master Archive Index Submit Article Template Article Preview Template Article Error Template Comment Preview Template Comment Error Template Comment Listing Template RSS 1.0 Index Category Archive Individual Entry Archive is this about right? in my head it's mainly based around the current xurble news site, so I might be a bit off. Anyway, a link on the index page to the list of categories should be a link to categories.html, with HTML files being served by a new HTMLServlet where it a) checks if the file being looked for is on a list of special names (categories.html, newarticle.html etc), b) if not, then look for a normal HTML page, sending a friendly 404 if it's not found c) if it is then check for the file's existence, serves it up (replacing any necessary in-line elements (LUAs, votes, etc) as it does so) if it exists, and generates it from the template if it doesn't. Possibly a reference to all generated files should be stored in the DB, with a "last-viewed" field that a background-thread checks, and after X number of days, deletes the generated HTML file (possibly only worth it if the generated HTML is large enough?). I have no idea how the templates are going to interact with the current item format. Most things like page title, site title etc can be stored in configuration files, but a bit more thought needs to go into the new templates, and how exactly they should work (ian?). My £0.02 to get us started. :) Phil _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger - fast, easy and FREE! http://messenger.msn.co.uk |
