From: Philip B. <pb...@sa...> - 2004-11-30 16:44:53
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What has been others' experience with the latest version of Firefox and Jmol on the Mac? (OS 10.3.6 Firefox 1.0) Mine crashes and I am just trying to determine if it me or Firefox. Phil J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame IN 46556 pb...@sa... |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2004-11-30 18:09:23
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> What has been others' experience with the latest version of Firefox and= > Jmol on the Mac? (OS 10.3.6 Firefox 1.0) Mine crashes and I am just= > trying to determine if it me or Firefox. Firefox is very unstable for me too ... I believe it is Firefox. Miguel |
From: timothy d. <mol...@ma...> - 2004-12-01 14:41:19
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On 2004-11-30 (11:42) Philip Bays wrote: >What has been others' experience with the latest version of Firefox >and Jmol on the Mac? (OS 10.3.6 Firefox 1.0) Mine crashes and I >am just trying to determine if it me or Firefox. > >Phil > hi Phil and Miguel, =46irefox and Mozilla are both causing me trouble here, but it seems linke= d to the the latest release of Jmol, not browser or OS. for example, I can= use Firefox to open=20 <http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms> eventually, I can see the caffeine molecule, but now it takes several minut= es. sadly, the Liveconnect seems to be completely broken, even though I ha= ve installed the JavaEmbedding plugin and Firefox *is* using the Apple JVM.= :-( I did test this url on nov 24 with Jmol 10pre19 (same browsers, same OS). = it worked fine - even the Liveconnect. maybe something was broken in the fix for the Safari buttons problem? regards, tim --=20 Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:wake forest "The best teacher is the one who suggests rather than dogmatizes,=20 and inspires his listener with the wish to teach himself." |
From: Philip B. <pb...@sa...> - 2004-12-01 15:12:16
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Tim and others: I have just tried the <http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms> site with safari. it works, but also takes a full minute or more to download. I do not remember it being that slow previously. So the speed issue does not seem to be related to firefox for me. The button issue is not totally resolved, but it mostly fixed. What I note is that radio buttons (not jmol control radios) do not refresh. That is, when one is pushed it is turned on. If another is pushed, the first is not turned off. If a third is pushed, one or two of the previous ones turn off. It seem sort of random. This is in safari. I can give a url to a sample page if anyone is interested. Phil On Dec 1, 2004, at 9:41 AM, timothy driscoll wrote: > On 2004-11-30 (11:42) Philip Bays wrote: > >> What has been others' experience with the latest version of Firefox >> and Jmol on the Mac? (OS 10.3.6 Firefox 1.0) Mine crashes and I >> am just trying to determine if it me or Firefox. >> >> Phil >> > > > hi Phil and Miguel, > > Firefox and Mozilla are both causing me trouble here, but it seems > linked to the the latest release of Jmol, not browser or OS. for > example, I can use Firefox to open > > <http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms> > > eventually, I can see the caffeine molecule, but now it takes several > minutes. sadly, the Liveconnect seems to be completely broken, even > though I have installed the JavaEmbedding plugin and Firefox *is* > using the Apple JVM. :-( > > I did test this url on nov 24 with Jmol 10pre19 (same browsers, same > OS). it worked fine - even the Liveconnect. > > > > maybe something was broken in the fix for the Safari buttons problem? > > > regards, > > tim > -- > Timothy Driscoll > molvisions - see, grasp, learn. > <http://www.molvisions.com/> > usa:north carolina:wake forest > > "The best teacher is the one who suggests rather than dogmatizes, > and inspires his listener with the wish to teach himself." > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > > J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame IN 46556 pb...@sa... |
From: timothy d. <mol...@ma...> - 2004-12-01 15:57:41
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On 2004-12-01 (10:11) Philip Bays wrote: >Tim and others: I have just tried the ><http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms> site with safari. it >works, but also takes a full minute or more to download. I do not >remember it being that slow previously. So the speed issue does not >seem to be related to firefox for me. > hmm. I agree; Safari is much slower now. I tried four successive loads of= the same page, with very different results. the first time, I waited a fe= w minutes with the "Jmol loading" message visible before hitting refresh. = I assumed it was a combination of a slow network and caching the applet: LOAD 1: AppletRegistry.checkIn(jmolApplet0) (C) 2004 The Jmol Development Team Jmol Version 10pre21 2004/12/01 03:18 java.vendor:Apple Computer, Inc. java.version:1.4.2_05 os.name:Mac OS X appletDocumentBase=3Dhttp://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ setting color scheme to:jmol animationReplayMode=3D0 =46ileManager.openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) LOAD 2: AppletRegistry.checkIn(jmolApplet0) (C) 2004 The Jmol Development Team Jmol Version 10pre21 2004/12/01 03:18 java.vendor:Apple Computer, Inc. java.version:1.4.2_05 os.name:Mac OS X appletDocumentBase=3Dhttp://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ SmarterJmolAdapter:The Resolver thinks:Xyz openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) 106005 ms jmolApplet0 will try to run: -----select * ----- LOAD 3: setting color scheme to:jmol animationReplayMode=3D0 =46ileManager.openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) SmarterJmolAdapter:The Resolver thinks:Xyz openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) 5346 ms jmolApplet0 will try to run: -----select * ----- LOAD 4: AppletRegistry.checkIn(jmolApplet0) (C) 2004 The Jmol Development Team Jmol Version 10pre21 2004/12/01 03:18 java.vendor:Apple Computer, Inc. java.version:1.4.2_05 os.name:Mac OS X appletDocumentBase=3Dhttp://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ setting color scheme to:jmol animationReplayMode=3D0 =46ileManager.openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) SmarterJmolAdapter:The Resolver thinks:Xyz openFile(./caffeine.xyz.gz) 1163 ms jmolApplet0 will try to run: -----select * ----- >The button issue is not totally resolved, but it mostly fixed. =20 >What I note is that radio buttons (not jmol control radios) do not >refresh. That is, when one is pushed it is turned on. If another >is pushed, the first is not turned off. If a third is pushed, one >or two of the previous ones turn off. It seem sort of random.=20 >This is in safari. I can give a url to a sample page if anyone is >interested. > you mean radio buttons that you code yourself, rather than ones written by = Jmol.js? I know that Miguel's fix was specific to Jmol.js, not Safari in g= eneral, so it won't help the former. tim --=20 Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:wake forest "How many Microsoft engineers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? =20 None; they just define dark as the new standard." |
From: Philip B. <pb...@sa...> - 2004-12-01 17:25:09
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Except that they worked properly in pre-17. Phil On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:57 AM, timothy driscoll wrote: > you mean radio buttons that you code yourself, rather than ones > written by Jmol.js? I know that Miguel's fix was specific to Jmol.js, > not Safari in general, so it won't help the former. > J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame IN 46556 pb...@sa... |
From: timothy d. <mol...@ma...> - 2004-12-01 17:49:53
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On 2004-12-01 (12:24) Philip Bays wrote: >On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:57 AM, timothy driscoll wrote: > >>you mean radio buttons that you code yourself, rather than ones >>written by Jmol.js? I know that Miguel's fix was specific to >>Jmol.js, not Safari in general, so it won't help the former. >> >Except that they worked properly in pre-17. > >Phil > oh. in that case, I'll shut up now and let Miguel comment more intelligent= ly. :-) regards, tim --=20 Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:wake forest "There are three kinds of death in this world. There's heart death,=20 there's brain death, and there's being off the network." |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2004-12-01 22:13:50
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>>The button issue is not totally resolved, but it mostly fixed. >>What I note is that radio buttons (not jmol control radios) do not >>refresh. That is, when one is pushed it is turned on. If another >>is pushed, the first is not turned off. If a third is pushed, one >>or two of the previous ones turn off. It seem sort of random. This sounds like Safari behavior when one does not have do not have <form= > tags around the buttons. Makes sure that you have all of your <input> tags enclosed in <form></form> tags. Miguel |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2004-12-01 22:15:30
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>>The button issue is not totally resolved, but it mostly fixed. =5Bsnip=5D > you mean radio buttons that you code yourself, rather than ones written= by > Jmol.js? I know that Miguel's fix was specific to Jmol.js, not Safari = in > general, so it won't help the former. Actually, the button bug that I found in Safari was a general bug, *not* directly related to Jmol.js buttons. That is, any buttons on the page were affected. I wrote a 1 page applet that demonstrates the bug and sent it to Apple. The JmolApplet now works around that bug. Miguel |
From: timothy d. <mol...@ma...> - 2004-12-01 23:11:01
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> >>>The button issue is not totally resolved, but it mostly fixed. >[snip] > >>you mean radio buttons that you code yourself, rather than ones=20 >written by >>Jmol.js? I know that Miguel's fix was specific to Jmol.js, not >>Safari=20 >in >>general, so it won't help the former. > >Actually, the button bug that I found in Safari was a general bug, >*not* directly related to Jmol.js buttons. > >That is, any buttons on the page were affected. > >I wrote a 1 page applet that demonstrates the bug and sent it to >Apple. > >The JmolApplet now works around that bug. > > oops. <open mouth; insert foot.> my mistake; sorry. :-) tim --=20 Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:wake forest |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2004-12-01 22:11:00
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> I have just tried the <http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms> site > with safari. it works, but also takes a full minute or more to > download. I do not remember it being that slow previously. I believe that sourceforge is having some speed issues. I do not believe that the slow performance is directly related to Jmol. Miguel |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2004-12-01 22:19:06
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> eventually, I can see the caffeine molecule, but now it takes several > minutes. sadly, the Liveconnect seems to be completely broken, even > though I have installed the JavaEmbedding plugin and Firefox *is* using= > the Apple JVM. :-( > > I did test this url on nov 24 with Jmol 10pre19 (same browsers, same OS= ). > it worked fine - even the Liveconnect. the javaplugin has a timeout of 60 seconds. If the applet does not load i= n 60 seconds then things start getting confused. I am working with the javaplugin guy on this issue. I believe that some of your problems are related to general slow performance from sourceforge.net Try it locally. Miguel |