From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2005-06-24 15:35:24
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> Miguel, > > I'm developing content for the =7BXXX-deleted=7D homework system > that > uses the Jmol applet. Some of my questions ask students to identify > molecules rendered by Jmol. Is there a way to mask the file name in th= e > applet pull-down menu? Obviously I can change PDB data file names from= > things like Dglucose.pdb to Unknown1.pdb, but that will get to be a > logistical nightmare with all the molecules that I will eventually be > using. I have received a request that the file name not be displayed in the pull-down menu. Q: Would a setting for removing the file name from the popup-menu be useful in other (educational?) contexts? Miguel ----- Open Source Molecular Visualization www.jmol.org miguel=40jmol.org ----- |
From: Angel H. <ang...@ua...> - 2005-06-24 15:54:18
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El 24 Jun 2005 a las 11:35, Miguel escribi=F3: > Q: Would a setting for removing the file name from the popup-menu be > useful in other (educational?) contexts? It would certainly be convenient to have it as an option. I agree with the proponent, but I am not sure a permanent removal would be good either. Some kind of switch-toggle (not accesible through the popup-menu but yes from the html code) could be much better, if technically possible. Anyhow, for any informatics-savvy student, the source code of the page will reveal the filename! |
From: Miguel <mi...@jm...> - 2005-06-24 18:19:05
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I have checked-in code that will allow one to hide the name of the file i= n the popup-menu. set hideNameInPopup true; load =22whatever=22; Note that the setting 'hideNameInPopup' must be turned on/true *before* the file is loaded. That is, it is not 'retroactive' and it will not modify the menu once the popup menu is already loaded. Note that the code is checked into CVS, but is not yet available as a packaged pre-release. Miguel ----- Open Source Molecular Visualization www.jmol.org miguel=40jmol.org ----- |
From: rlight <rl...@ch...> - 2005-06-24 15:52:36
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It would be useful to have a way to prevent a student from access to the file name by whatever means--pull down, pop-up, whatever. But wouldn't they be able to find it by looking at the web page = source--or can it be hidden there as well? I presume this should be an option, as there may be other circumstance = where you want the file name available. Robley Light ************************************************************* Robley J. Light Professor Emeritus, Chemistry = and Biochemistry Department of Chemistry Phone: (850) 644-3844=20 and Biochemistry Email: rl...@ch... =20 Florida State University Fax: (850) 644-8281 Tallahassee, FL 32306-4390 Home Page: http://www.chem.fsu.edu/editors/rlight =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jmo...@li...=20 > [mailto:jmo...@li...] On Behalf Of Miguel > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:35 AM > To: jmo...@li... > Subject: [Jmol-users] Re: applet pull-down menu >=20 >=20 > > Miguel, > > > > I'm developing content for the {XXX-deleted} homework=20 > system that uses=20 > > the Jmol applet. Some of my questions ask students to identify=20 > > molecules rendered by Jmol. Is there a way to mask the=20 > file name in=20 > > the applet pull-down menu? Obviously I can change PDB data=20 > file names=20 > > from things like Dglucose.pdb to Unknown1.pdb, but that=20 > will get to be=20 > > a logistical nightmare with all the molecules that I will=20 > eventually=20 > > be using. >=20 > I have received a request that the file name not be displayed=20 > in the pull-down menu. >=20 > Q: Would a setting for removing the file name from the=20 > popup-menu be useful in other (educational?) contexts? >=20 >=20 > Miguel >=20 > ----- > Open Source Molecular Visualization > www.jmol.org > mi...@jm... > ----- >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration=20 > Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps,=20 > straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get=20 > everything you need to get up to speed, fast.=20 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id=16492&op=CCk > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >=20 |
From: Egon W. <e.w...@sc...> - 2005-06-24 18:44:10
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On Friday 24 June 2005 17:52, rlight wrote: > But wouldn't they be able to find it by looking at the web page source--or > can it be hidden there as well? Yes. (This question has popped up in the past ...) Jmol is a client side program, and the view is calculated client side. This means that the molecular content *must* be transferred from the server to the web browser someway... and thus, a student is able to access the file anyway... It is interesting to know that the DADML plugin sort of works this way... the internet databases that are queried with this plugin are generally defined by looking at regular webpages and see how they download the information from the database... You could use a clever encryption scheme to make it somewhat more difficult though... but I haven't seen Jmol versions that support such a setup... Egon -- e.w...@sc... PhD student on Molecular Representation in Chemometrics Radboud University Nijmegen http://www.cac.science.ru.nl/people/egonw/ GPG: 1024D/D6336BA6 |
From: Jan R. <jo...@gm...> - 2005-06-27 07:37:22
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Miguel wrote: >> Miguel, >> >> I'm developing content for the {XXX-deleted} homework system >> that >> uses the Jmol applet. Some of my questions ask students to identify >> molecules rendered by Jmol. Is there a way to mask the file name in the >> applet pull-down menu? Obviously I can change PDB data file names from >> things like Dglucose.pdb to Unknown1.pdb, but that will get to be a >> logistical nightmare with all the molecules that I will eventually be >> using. >> > > this would be better implemented by a PDB file serving CGI script, modification of appletweb/JmolAppletProxy.cgi e.g. using an mapping database (Unknown1.pdb -- Dglucose.pdb) and stripping off parts of the PDB header. A CGI could hide everything, but the coordinates. > I have received a request that the file name not be displayed in the > pull-down menu. > > Q: Would a setting for removing the file name from the popup-menu be > useful in other (educational?) contexts? > I don't think its of great use. Regards, Jan |