From: Angel H. <ang...@ua...> - 2010-01-25 16:18:58
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I see this as a term that needs translation: #: org/jmol/script/ScriptEvaluator.java:8998 msgid "{0} struts added" Can you tell me what are these "struts"? The standard dictionaries do not help me. |
From: Robert H. <ha...@st...> - 2010-01-26 18:41:55
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The term "strut" means "support" as in the short piece of metal attached diagonally on an aircraft wing to the body for support during flight. http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/may/galleria/walkaround/kem99308.jpg In Jmol this is a generally short bond-like piece that is thick enough to support a section of a protein in a plastic model created using rapid prototyping. 2010/1/25 Angel Herráez <ang...@ua...> > I see this as a term that needs translation: > > #: org/jmol/script/ScriptEvaluator.java:8998 > msgid "{0} struts added" > > Can you tell me what are these "struts"? The standard dictionaries do > not help me. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the > world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for > Conference > attendees to learn about information security's most important issues > through > interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-developers mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 |
From: Angel H. <ang...@ua...> - 2010-01-26 22:24:41
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Oh, yes I had seen the airplane thing, but couldn't think of a way Jmol would have anything to do with that --despite the "navigation" mode ;-) > In Jmol this is a generally short bond-like piece that is thick enough to support a section of a > protein in a plastic model created using rapid prototyping. So are we having those in Jmol? Building the prototype maybe? |
From: Robert H. <ha...@st...> - 2010-02-01 20:30:07
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Jmol can now be used as a "front end" for creating physical models produced by a 3D rapid prototyping printer. The "struts" are needed for that - they were using measurement lines, but this is better. Bob 2010/1/26 Angel Herráez <ang...@ua...> > Oh, yes I had seen the airplane thing, but couldn't think of a way Jmol > would have anything > to do with that --despite the "navigation" mode ;-) > > > In Jmol this is a generally short bond-like piece that is thick enough to > support a section of a > > protein in a plastic model created using rapid prototyping. > > So are we having those in Jmol? Building the prototype maybe? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation > Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the > business > Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts > Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-developers mailing list > Jmo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 |
From: Angel H. <ang...@ua...> - 2010-01-26 22:36:04
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Ha, ha, I know what it is. You are building a (nano)airplane to do the navigation mode with it, right? x-D |
From: Rzepa, H. <h....@im...> - 2010-01-28 07:29:45
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Who knows what niche devices such as the iPad will find, but given one target is reading books (and scientific journals; the number of apps for doing so is growing rapidly), a Jmol-less world might be beckoning. I presume the prospects of Jmol living outside of its Java sandbox (aka xMol!!) are pretty distant, if not non-existent? -- +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); Blog: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/rzepa/blog/ Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. (Voracious anti-spam filter in operation for received email. If expected reply not received, please phone/fax). |
From: Egon W. <ego...@gm...> - 2010-02-09 07:52:36
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Rzepa, Henry <h....@im...> wrote: > Who knows what niche devices such as the iPad will find, but given one target is reading books (and scientific journals; the number of apps for doing so is growing rapidly), a Jmol-less world might be beckoning. I presume the prospects of Jmol living outside of its Java sandbox (aka xMol!!) are pretty distant, if not non-existent? Yeah, nice vendor lock-in example. Apple decides what you can and cannot do. Otherwise, it is interesting to learn how this will go... I have no iPhone and no intent to buy a iPad (because of the vendor lock-in issues), but would love to see Jmol-applications running on those machines... Has anyone tried cross-compiling them with gcc for the iPhone platform? For example, as described here: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-develop-iphone-applications-in-java/ Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University Proteochemometrics / Bioclipse Group of Prof. Jarl Wikberg Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers |
From: Rzepa, H. <h....@im...> - 2010-02-09 08:33:18
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>On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Rzepa, Henry <h....@im...> wrote: >> Who knows what niche devices such as the iPad will find, but given one target is reading books (and scientific journals; the number of apps for doing so is growing rapidly), a Jmol-less world might be beckoning. I presume the prospects of Jmol living outside of its Java sandbox (aka xMol!!) are pretty distant, if not non-existent? > >Yeah, nice vendor lock-in example. Apple decides what you can and cannot do. > >Otherwise, it is interesting to learn how this will go... I have no >iPhone and no intent to buy a iPad (because of the vendor lock-in >issues), but would love to see Jmol-applications running on those >machines... Vendor lock in means many things. For example, do you worry that you are vendor locked into Acrobat from Adobe? Or Flash from Adobe. Or Silverlight from M$? In fact, to give Apple some credit, they ARE trying to promote the <<open>> (W3C ) standard HTML5 rather than Flash with the iPad. So in theory, any content developed for the iPad could also be displayed using (eg?) Chrome, which I believe is also going down the HTML5 route. Not that HTML5 will help much with Jmol. One could also argue whether eg CML4Word is "vendor locked in" to Microsoft, since it will never work outside of Windows as currently factored using .Net (which I write as a Mac user). -- Professor Henry S Rzepa. +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ & /rzepa/blog Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. (Voracious anti-spam filter in operation for received email. If expected reply not received, please phone/fax). |
From: Egon W. <ego...@gm...> - 2010-02-09 08:42:27
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Rzepa, Henry <h....@im...> wrote: > Vendor lock in means many things. Yes, it does. > For example, do you worry that you are vendor locked into Acrobat from Adobe? Which I therefore not use. > Or Flash from Adobe. Guilty as charged :) > Or Silverlight from M$? Actually, there is OpenSource for that... Moonlight... but not so sure about the 'standard' being an Open Specification... > In fact, to give Apple some credit, they ARE > trying to promote the <<open>> (W3C ) standard HTML5 rather than Flash with the iPad. So in theory, any content developed for the iPad could also be displayed using (eg?) Chrome, which I believe is also going down the HTML5 route. Not that HTML5 will help much with Jmol. That is a sane move, but indeed not going to help Jmol... > One could also argue whether eg CML4Word is "vendor locked in" to Microsoft, since it will never work outside of Windows as currently factored using .Net (which I write as a Mac user). Yes, and I think I have expressed before on some channel, that I will not be able to use CML4Word... That said, I will be able to use the CML in documents crafted with CML4Word... Thanx for the ping, BTW! Need to write a CDK reader for reading CML4Word files :) Bob, do you envision Jmol will be able to extract the CML from these new Word documents for visualization in Jmol? Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University Proteochemometrics / Bioclipse Group of Prof. Jarl Wikberg Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers |