RE: [Jgimp-developers] FilmGimp integration

[Sam R. <sa...@im...>]

Hi,
I'm sorry, but I am really not into spending my copious free time on
auto-detecting java installations, especially since we will have to do that
on 3 platforms. I am also very doubtful as to the benifits of having java as
the primary scripting language. It really doesnt make sense to me.

I dont have a problem in possibly adding it to the plugin package, so that
if somebody wants to compile it in, they can, but making it a requirement
just seems rather pointless.

One of the great things you are doing with the plugin-archecture is tieing
it much closer to the orginal application. With the eventual idea that all
the tools (text, brushes) are plugins, and that all plugins can have full
control over the GUI. Jgimp seems to be the reverse of that. I can see how
it works well within the current gimp system, but it seems to be forcing us
to have all GUI controls for the scripting language to go through the Java
UI, that doesnt seem integrated to me at all.

I am definately warming to the general concept that you have that we should
attempt (at least for the moment) of making filmgimp fairly script neutral,
since different studios will continue to use different scripting languages.
In the meantime, I think we really need to focus on other things that are
more critical.

Having said that, I will attempt to complete the perl bindings, but with
that too, I dont think it should be a requirement to have that fully working
on all platforms at the moment, I really havent seen any working plugins
that I think are essential to do work. However, it is important for testing.

In the meantime, I am going to finish of the brushes (I still have the
clone, eraser and dodge/burn brushes to get working with some minimal
pressure sensitivity).

Sam.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Rowe [mailto:ro...@Mo...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:09 PM
> To: jgi...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Jgimp-developers] FilmGimp integration
> 
> 
> Sam,
> 
> > They either dont install it, or have their own version.
> 
> Mozilla detects or installs Sun's JDK, I think.
> 
>     http://www.mozillanews.org/index.php3?article=31
>     The majority of the size increase is the inclusion of Sun's Java 2
> package.
> 
> K-Meleon and Opera handles optional installation of the Sun 
> JDK. We can look
> to those for ideas, too.
> 
>     K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/docs/relnotes07.php):
> a.. You must first install the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 
> to run Java
> applets in K-Meleon. Once installed, K-Meleon automatically 
> detects your JRE
> installation and no other configuration is necessary.
> a.. K-Meleon has been tested with JRE 1.4. You can download 
> JRE 1.4 from
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html. To see if JRE is properly
> installed, type about:plugins in the URL bar. If you see Java Plug-in
> listed, K-Meleon properly recognizes the JRE.
> 
> Opera:
> 
> http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=459
> http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/6/day02-install/
> http://list.opera.com/pipermail/opera-users/2000-December/001384.html
> 
> Linux Java:
> 
> http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Prog
ramming/linux/
http://lwn.net/2001/0719/desktop.php3

Hope this helps. May take a little research to iron out auto-detect
installation.

Cheers,

Robin



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