Re: [ jEdit-devel ] Re: OT: Fire Retardant Clothing should not be a requirement! was (RE: [jEdit-devel ] No splash screen in 2.3?)

[Slava P. <sp...@gj...>]

Kevin,

Send me your new splash screen then, I will stick it into 2.3final. I
don't really care about the splash very much.

As for me vetoing "good" ideas and so on, if this was an important issue
(a plugin API breakage, for example) I would listen to other people's
comments and take them seriously. But this is only a splash screen.

Slava

"Kevin A. Burton" wrote:
> 1.  I did do a better splash screen.
> 2.  You said that *you* didn't like it and vetoed everyone on this
> list.  I personally liked it a lot and thought it reflected other jEdit
> artwork (specifically the home page).
> 3.  You didn't post publicly that you were going to change the splash
> screen to the current version.  You just did it.
> 4.  Everyone here voted (and you didn't make any comments to the
> contrary) that we were going to *not* use a splash screen... and what
> happens.  We have a different splash screen.
> 
> I personally see you at fault here Slava.  If you want to do this jEdit
> thing as your own project and make your own bad and good decisions then
> tell everyone here to get lost so that we don't waste our time.
> Otherwise we all need to work towards a common goal and that involves
> you realizing that this project is now larger than when you started it.
> 
> On of the reasons I haven't been totally active around here lately is
> that I am worn down the the lack of professionalism.  This is why I
> wanted to get a constitution (like the Apache constitution) setup around
> here so that we all know where we are coming from.  Honestly at Apache
> we have it set up.  In 2 years there has never been an e-mail like this
> because we have everything down on paper as to how things are supposed
> to work.  If I were to -1 you on the splash screen it is because I
> consider the situation serious.  This keeps everyone in control and
> avoids bad mistakes (even if someone thinks they are good).  BTW I am
> officially -1 on the new splash screen.
> 
> I really don't like writing e-mails like this.  I have gone out of my
> way to keep the atmosphere light.  Honestly I am at the edge.  We should
> be competing with the outside world and not ourselves.  Even if I decide
> to stay here and keep working on my plugins it will be because *I* want
> them, jEdit is a good technical foundation... but if this place is
> chaotic don't expect my collaboration with the core.
> 
> I hope the above was taken in a positive light and used it in a
> constructive manner.   I really would like to have things flow smoothly
> around here and deliver an awesome product.  We don't all have to like
> each other but if things flow well then we can get some serious work
> done.
> 
> Another point of note.  I think it is a bad situation where you get
> someone as excited as I was (see my original posts) and then 2 months
> later we get an e-mail like this.  Things need to move smoothly.  We
> need to use the Apache Constitution....