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From: SourceForge.net <noreply@so...> - 2009-10-05 18:19:32
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Feature Requests item #2555976, was opened at 2009-02-01 22:28 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by rschwenn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Summary: Windows installer: change default settings Initial Comment: By default I would uncheck the option to automatically run jedit server at Windows startup. Because of some usability issues the user should have to enable this option manually, hoping he knows something about the effects. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Date: 2009-10-05 20:19 Message: Regarding Usability issues... Short story: Users don't know: - how to disable the automatic startup of the jEdit server, because the only way is to hack the registry - that "nothing to see of jEdit" (no window, no process) does NOT mean "jEdit isn't running" Long story: This thread in the jEdit User's mailing list should illustrate the problem: http://www.nabble.com/jEdit-server-tt21767167.html#a21767167 This feature can't save any time for the user. It follows the philosophy "Let the user wait for system startup rather than for first application startup". I can't see the point of using it and think it would be much better to include the "-background" command line option into the batch and desktop shortcuts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: kerik (kerik-sf) Date: 2009-10-05 19:24 Message: There is this annoying bug : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1953252&group_id=588&atid=100588 I submitted a patch some time ago. I would be grateful if you reviewed it : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2617610&group_id=588&atid=300588 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Sebastian Schuberth (eyebex) Date: 2009-10-05 18:31 Message: Wouldn't it be better to fix any usability issues rather than disabling the server by default? By the way, a quick search didn't reveal any open bugs with "server" as the keyword. Maybe you could submit a bug for any usability issues you have? Another thing: The installer is not MSI-based, but uses Inno Setup :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 |
From: SourceForge.net <noreply@so...> - 2011-11-17 17:23:48
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Feature Requests item #2555976, was opened at 2009-02-01 13:28 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by ezust You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Windows installer: change default settings Initial Comment: By default I would uncheck the option to automatically run jedit server at Windows startup. Because of some usability issues the user should have to enable this option manually, hoping he knows something about the effects. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Alan Ezust (ezust) Date: 2011-11-17 09:23 Message: Is this still an issue, now that there is a desktop icon? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Date: 2009-10-05 11:19 Message: Regarding Usability issues... Short story: Users don't know: - how to disable the automatic startup of the jEdit server, because the only way is to hack the registry - that "nothing to see of jEdit" (no window, no process) does NOT mean "jEdit isn't running" Long story: This thread in the jEdit User's mailing list should illustrate the problem: http://www.nabble.com/jEdit-server-tt21767167.html#a21767167 This feature can't save any time for the user. It follows the philosophy "Let the user wait for system startup rather than for first application startup". I can't see the point of using it and think it would be much better to include the "-background" command line option into the batch and desktop shortcuts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eric Le Lay (kerik-sf) Date: 2009-10-05 10:24 Message: There is this annoying bug : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1953252&group_id=588&atid=100588 I submitted a patch some time ago. I would be grateful if you reviewed it : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2617610&group_id=588&atid=300588 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Sebastian Schuberth (eyebex) Date: 2009-10-05 09:31 Message: Wouldn't it be better to fix any usability issues rather than disabling the server by default? By the way, a quick search didn't reveal any open bugs with "server" as the keyword. Maybe you could submit a bug for any usability issues you have? Another thing: The installer is not MSI-based, but uses Inno Setup :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 |
From: SourceForge.net <noreply@so...> - 2011-11-17 19:41:26
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Feature Requests item #2555976, was opened at 2009-02-01 13:28 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by rschwenn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Windows installer: change default settings Initial Comment: By default I would uncheck the option to automatically run jedit server at Windows startup. Because of some usability issues the user should have to enable this option manually, hoping he knows something about the effects. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Date: 2011-11-17 11:41 Message: At least the exe installers of 4.5pre1 and 5.0pre1 have disabled this option. Systray Icon is helpful, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Alan Ezust (ezust) Date: 2011-11-17 09:23 Message: Is this still an issue, now that there is a desktop icon? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Robert Schwenn (rschwenn) Date: 2009-10-05 11:19 Message: Regarding Usability issues... Short story: Users don't know: - how to disable the automatic startup of the jEdit server, because the only way is to hack the registry - that "nothing to see of jEdit" (no window, no process) does NOT mean "jEdit isn't running" Long story: This thread in the jEdit User's mailing list should illustrate the problem: http://www.nabble.com/jEdit-server-tt21767167.html#a21767167 This feature can't save any time for the user. It follows the philosophy "Let the user wait for system startup rather than for first application startup". I can't see the point of using it and think it would be much better to include the "-background" command line option into the batch and desktop shortcuts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eric Le Lay (kerik-sf) Date: 2009-10-05 10:24 Message: There is this annoying bug : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1953252&group_id=588&atid=100588 I submitted a patch some time ago. I would be grateful if you reviewed it : https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2617610&group_id=588&atid=300588 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Sebastian Schuberth (eyebex) Date: 2009-10-05 09:31 Message: Wouldn't it be better to fix any usability issues rather than disabling the server by default? By the way, a quick search didn't reveal any open bugs with "server" as the keyword. Maybe you could submit a bug for any usability issues you have? Another thing: The installer is not MSI-based, but uses Inno Setup :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350588&aid=2555976&group_id=588 |