Thread: [jazzplusplus-devel] Status ?

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Hi Peter,

Haven't heard anything on this list for a while. 

Is it near operable ? How much more needs to be done ?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Bob

I'm still lurking....  ;-)

On 13 October 2009 at 20:23, <vo...@ct...> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> 
> Haven't heard anything on this list for a while. 
> 
> Is it near operable ? How much more needs to be done ?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your response.
> 
> Bob
> 
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BV = Bob Vogel
BV>> Haven't heard anything on this list for a while.

I've been distracted by work and I've started giving drum lessons on 
Saturday mornings.

BV>> Is it near operable?

I managed to get it recording MIDI from my Roland drum kit.

BV>> How much more needs to be done?

I would like to remove all of the deprecated wxWidgets code.  this means 
I need to convert several dialog boxes to modern wxWidgets.

What functionality were you looking for?

BV>> Thanks in advance for your response.

Thank you.  Your interest will get me looking at this again.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC> I'm still lurking....  ;-)

Hi Kevin.  Hope everyone is well at your place.  Last time we talked 
(over a year ago) you had a sick 4 year old daughter.  Well she is at 
least 5 now ;-)

Pete

> What functionality were you looking for?

Hi Pete,

I have a copy of Dave Phillips book, Linux Music & Sound, from 2000 which
describes jazz++ this way:

"...Jazz++ is a professional grade tools for recording, editing, and playing 
midi data and has the
distinction of being the first Linux sequencer with integrated MIDI and 
digital audio sequencing. It
provides a wide assortment of tools for the manipulation of recorded MIDI 
data, including a full
complement of the basic tools (cut, copy, paste, mute/solo, track 
quantization and transposition, and so on),
a variety of interesting and useful MIDI event generators and modifiers, and 
an editor and other tools
for digital audio tracks."

It goes on for a few more pages with more detail. There is also a CD 
included with the book that
has a 386 rpm, some documentation, and other material that is likely 
outdated by now.
Since it is all under the GPL, I could send you copies of those files if 
they are of
any use to you.

I was hoping that it could get back to its original functionality with a 
nice new wx gui.

What are the chances ?

Bob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Stieber" <pst...@gm...>
To: <jaz...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Status ?

> BV = Bob Vogel
> BV>> Haven't heard anything on this list for a while.
>
> I've been distracted by work and I've started giving drum lessons on
> Saturday mornings.
>
> BV>> Is it near operable?
>
> I managed to get it recording MIDI from my Roland drum kit.
>
> BV>> How much more needs to be done?
>
> I would like to remove all of the deprecated wxWidgets code.  this means
> I need to convert several dialog boxes to modern wxWidgets.
>
> What functionality were you looking for?
>
> BV>> Thanks in advance for your response.
>
> Thank you.  Your interest will get me looking at this again.
>
> KC = Kevin Cosgrove
> KC> I'm still lurking....  ;-)
>
> Hi Kevin.  Hope everyone is well at your place.  Last time we talked
> (over a year ago) you had a sick 4 year old daughter.  Well she is at
> least 5 now ;-)
>
> Pete
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA
> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference
> _______________________________________________
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> jaz...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jazzplusplus-devel 

BV = Bob Vogel
BV>>> Haven't heard anything on this list for a while.

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> I've been distracted by work and I've started
PS>> giving drum lessons on Saturday mornings.

BV>>> Is it near operable?

PS>> I managed to get it recording MIDI from my
PS>> Roland drum kit.

BV>>> How much more needs to be done?

PS>> I would like to remove all of the deprecated
PS>> wxWidgets code.  This means I need to convert
PS>> several dialog boxes to modern wxWidgets.
PS>>
PS>> What functionality were you looking for?

BV> I have a copy of Dave Phillips book, Linux
BV> Music & Sound, from 2000 which describes
BV> jazz++ this way:
BV>
BV> "...Jazz++ is a professional grade tools for
BV> recording, editing, and playing midi data and
BV> has the distinction of being the first Linux
BV> sequencer with integrated MIDI and digital
BV> audio sequencing. It provides a wide
BV> assortment of tools for the manipulation of
BV> recorded MIDI data, including a full
BV> complement of the basic tools (cut, copy,
BV> paste, mute/solo, track quantization and
BV> transposition, and so on), a variety of
BV> interesting and useful MIDI event generators
BV> and modifiers, and an editor and other tools
BV> for digital audio tracks."
BV>
BV> It goes on for a few more pages with more
BV> detail. There is also a CD included with the
BV> book that has a 386 rpm, some documentation,
BV> and other material that is likely outdated by
BV> now.
BV>
BV> Since it is all under the GPL, I could send
BV> you copies of those files if they are of any
BV> use to you.

I didn't even know this book existed.  If you browse the SVN repository 
I inherited you will notice some old branches

http://jazzplusplus.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jazzplusplus/branches/

Do you happen to know the version of Jazz++ that was included on the CD?

BV> I was hoping that it could get back to its
BV> original functionality with a nice new wx gui.
BV>
BV> What are the chances?

It's functional.  IIRC you are a Debian user.  Is that still true?

What distribution/hardware are you using?

Would you be willing to try and build version 2.8.10 of wxWidgets and 
the current Jazz++ code in subversion?

It might take some effort, but I promise to help.

Pete

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Stieber" <                                                   >
To: <jaz...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Status ?

> BV = Bob Vogel
> BV>>> Haven't heard anything on this list for a while.
>
> PS = Pete Stieber
> PS>> I've been distracted by work and I've started
> PS>> giving drum lessons on Saturday mornings.
>
> BV>>> Is it near operable?
>
> PS>> I managed to get it recording MIDI from my
> PS>> Roland drum kit.
>
> BV>>> How much more needs to be done?
>
> PS>> I would like to remove all of the deprecated
> PS>> wxWidgets code.  This means I need to convert
> PS>> several dialog boxes to modern wxWidgets.
> PS>>
> PS>> What functionality were you looking for?
>
> BV> I have a copy of Dave Phillips book, Linux
> BV> Music & Sound, from 2000 which describes
> BV> jazz++ this way:
> BV>
> BV> "...Jazz++ is a professional grade tools for
> BV> recording, editing, and playing midi data and
> BV> has the distinction of being the first Linux
> BV> sequencer with integrated MIDI and digital
> BV> audio sequencing. It provides a wide
> BV> assortment of tools for the manipulation of
> BV> recorded MIDI data, including a full
> BV> complement of the basic tools (cut, copy,
> BV> paste, mute/solo, track quantization and
> BV> transposition, and so on), a variety of
> BV> interesting and useful MIDI event generators
> BV> and modifiers, and an editor and other tools
> BV> for digital audio tracks."
> BV>
> BV> It goes on for a few more pages with more
> BV> detail. There is also a CD included with the
> BV> book that has a 386 rpm, some documentation,
> BV> and other material that is likely outdated by
> BV> now.
> BV>
> BV> Since it is all under the GPL, I could send
> BV> you copies of those files if they are of any
> BV> use to you.
>
> I didn't even know this book existed.  If you browse the SVN repository
> I inherited you will notice some old branches
>
> http://jazzplusplus.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jazzplusplus/branches/
>
> Do you happen to know the version of Jazz++ that was included on the CD?
>
> BV> I was hoping that it could get back to its
> BV> original functionality with a nice new wx gui.
> BV>
> BV> What are the chances?
>
> It's functional.  IIRC you are a Debian user.  Is that still true?
>
> What distribution/hardware are you using?
>
> Would you be willing to try and build version 2.8.10 of wxWidgets and
> the current Jazz++ code in subversion?
>
> It might take some effort, but I promise to help.
>
> Pete

Hi Pete,

Dave Phillips did not include actual source code for Jazz++ on his CD. One 
file is labeled jazz4.0.0-1.386.rpm. I sent a file to your gmail address 
that contains some useful looking html.
Dave's book also has a number of screenshots. A good library could probably 
get it for you.

It might not have been a good move. I have changed from Debian to Ubuntu 
9.04 on a quad core AMD64 machine.
Actually it has been much more difficult to configure audio because Ubuntu 
uses Pulseaudio. It's also that I have a cheap soundcard that turns out
not to be supported by ALSA. I'm thinking I need to replace the sound card 
soon. Which one do you think would be best ?

Aside from that, I have compiled 2.8.10 of wxWidgets. Seems to be ok.

Sure...I can try building it. Do you still have instructions to do it ? (I 
did do it a year ago or more when I was running Debian.)

Bob

Bob

BV = Bob Vogel
BV> I have a copy of Dave Phillips book, Linux
BV> Music & Sound, from 2000 which describes
BV> jazz++ this way:
BV>
BV> "...Jazz++ is a professional grade tools for
BV> recording, editing, and playing midi data and
BV> has the distinction of being the first Linux
BV> sequencer with integrated MIDI and digital
BV> audio sequencing. It provides a wide
BV> assortment of tools for the manipulation of
BV> recorded MIDI data, including a full
BV> complement of the basic tools (cut, copy,
BV> paste, mute/solo, track quantization and
BV> transposition, and so on), a variety of
BV> interesting and useful MIDI event generators
BV> and modifiers, and an editor and other tools
BV> for digital audio tracks."
BV>
BV> It goes on for a few more pages with more
BV> detail. There is also a CD included with the
BV> book that has a 386 rpm, some documentation,
BV> and other material that is likely outdated by
BV> now.
BV>
BV> Since it is all under the GPL, I could send
BV> you copies of those files if they are of any
BV> use to you.

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> I didn't even know this book existed.
PS>> If you browse the SVN repository
PS>> I inherited you will notice some
PS>> old branches
PS>>
PS>> http://jazzplusplus.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jazzplusplus/branches/
PS>>
PS>> Do you happen to know the version of
PS>> Jazz++ that was included on the CD?
PS>>
>> BV> I was hoping that it could get back to its
>> BV> original functionality with a nice new wx gui.
>> BV>
>> BV> What are the chances?
>>
>> It's functional.  IIRC you are a Debian user.  Is that still true?
>>
>> What distribution/hardware are you using?
>>
>> Would you be willing to try and build version 2.8.10 of wxWidgets and
>> the current Jazz++ code in subversion?
>>
>> It might take some effort, but I promise to help.

BV> Dave Phillips did not include actual
BV> source code for Jazz++ on his CD. One
BV> file is labeled jazz4.0.0-1.386.rpm.
BV> I sent a file to your gmail address
BV> that contains some useful looking
BV> html.  Dave's book also has a number
BV> of screenshots. A good library could
BV> probably get it for you.

Amazon still has a link to vendors...

http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Music-Sound-Dave-Phillips/dp/1886411344

BV> It might not have been a good move.
BV> I have changed from Debian to Ubuntu
BV> 9.04 on a quad core AMD64 machine.
BV> Actually it has been much more difficult
BV> to configure audio because Ubuntu
BV> uses Pulseaudio.

So does Fedora.

BV> It's also that I have a cheap
BV> soundcard that turns out not to be
BV> supported by ALSA. I'm thinking I
BV> need to replace the sound card soon.
BV> Which one do you think would be best?

I haven't kept up with sound card HW.  The last time I was doing this 
Creative Labs (http://us.creative.com/welcome.asp) and TurtleBeach 
(http://www.turtlebeach.com/) were the best "game in town", but don't 
trust that.  This might help (http://linux-sound.org/drivers.html).

BV> Aside from that, I have compiled 2.8.10
BV> of wxWidgets. Seems to be ok.

You need to compile it using instructions found at...

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingwx/

BV> Sure...I can try building it. Do you
BV> still have instructions to do it ?

Yes.  After wxWidgets, build and install tex2rtf...

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingtex2rtf/

Next Jazz++

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingjazz/

Let me know if some instructions are fouled up.  Also see my autoreconf 
note to Kevin.

Thanks for trying,
Pete

This is my second attempt at replying to this message.  I have no idea 
what happened to my first attempt...

BV = Bob Vogel
BV>>> I have a copy of Dave Phillips book, Linux
BV>>> Music & Sound, from 2000 which describes
BV>>> jazz++ this way:
BV>>>
BV>>> "...Jazz++ is a professional grade tools for
BV>>> recording, editing, and playing midi data and
BV>>> has the distinction of being the first Linux
BV>>> sequencer with integrated MIDI and digital
BV>>> audio sequencing. It provides a wide
BV>>> assortment of tools for the manipulation of
BV>>> recorded MIDI data, including a full
BV>>> complement of the basic tools (cut, copy,
BV>>> paste, mute/solo, track quantization and
BV>>> transposition, and so on), a variety of
BV>>> interesting and useful MIDI event generators
BV>>> and modifiers, and an editor and other tools
BV>>> for digital audio tracks."
BV>>>
BV>>> It goes on for a few more pages with more
BV>>> detail. There is also a CD included with the
BV>>> book that has a 386 rpm, some documentation,
BV>>> and other material that is likely outdated by
BV>>> now.
BV>>>
BV>>> Since it is all under the GPL, I could send
BV>>> you copies of those files if they are of any
BV>>> use to you.

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> I didn't even know this book existed.
PS>> If you browse the SVN repository
PS>> I inherited you will notice some
PS>> old branches
PS>>
PS>> http://jazzplusplus.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jazzplusplus/branches/
PS>>
PS>> Do you happen to know the version of
PS>> Jazz++ that was included on the CD?

BV> Dave Phillips did not include actual
BV> source code for Jazz++ on his CD. One
BV> file is labeled jazz4.0.0-1.386.rpm.
BV> I sent a file to your gmail address
BV> that contains some useful looking
BV> html.  Dave's book also has a number
BV> of screenshots. A good library could
BV> probably get it for you.

Amazon still has a link to vendors...

http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Music-Sound-Dave-Phillips/dp/1886411344

BV> It might not have been a good move.
BV> I have changed from Debian to Ubuntu
BV> 9.04 on a quad core AMD64 machine.
BV> Actually it has been much more difficult
BV> to configure audio because Ubuntu
BV> uses Pulseaudio.

So does Fedora.

BV> It's also that I have a cheap
BV> soundcard that turns out not to be
BV> supported by ALSA. I'm thinking I
BV> need to replace the sound card soon.
BV> Which one do you think would be best?

I haven't kept up with sound card HW.  The last time I was doing this 
Creative Labs (http://us.creative.com/welcome.asp) and TurtleBeach 
(http://www.turtlebeach.com/) were the best "game in town", but don't 
trust that.  This might help (http://linux-sound.org/drivers.html).

BV> Aside from that, I have compiled 2.8.10
BV> of wxWidgets. Seems to be ok.

You need to compile it using instructions found at...

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingwx/

BV> Sure...I can try building it. Do you
BV> still have instructions to do it ?

Yes.  After wxWidgets, build and install tex2rtf...

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingtex2rtf/

Next Jazz++

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingjazz/

Let me know if some instructions are fouled up.  Also see my autoreconf 
note to Kevin.

Thanks for trying,
Pete

Howdy folks,

Yes...I too am still lurking here, but I've been significantly
distracted by hospital visits, biopsies...and right now, being
part of a clinical study investigating a currently trial version
of a treatment, which (hopefully) *may* cure my hepatitis type C
genome 1 (which is the isolated strain I've been subsequently
diagnosed as having)...which, sadly, really 'knocks the wind
out of my sails'...due to various known side effects. One of
these side effects, totally deranges my concentration levels,
which is most annoying (I should write a book entitled "A day
on the life of the human guinea-pig" ;)

Otherwise, I'm still okay and onboard here - just under medical
duress as it were <grin>...

Hmm...seems a recent hotmail update has decided not to quote
the original posting I'm replying to here...but...I have read
recent postings...

-pulseaudio- ; never seen anything good written about this (I
can imagine Alan Cox ranting about this like he did wrt esound ;)
In fact, AFAICT, a lot of ubuntu users actually uninstall this
animal and fall back to using the ALSA layer instead, and a lot
of their problems (with sound) simply disappear in that moment...

-soundcard- ; using the 'bang for your buck' principle drawn
above a line of 'functionality and support', I still think one
of the best buys is a creative soundblaster !Live or Audigy 
card...imho of course...

So...that's =my= status at present ; hopefully I'll be back on
deck properly near the end of the year/early 2010, once the
current round of clinical studies has concluded...

Regards,

Don

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DM> Howdy folks,
DM>
DM> Yes...I too am still lurking here...

Good to hear from you don.

Pete