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[jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Björn P. <bjo...@gm...>]

Hi eberybody,
I just recently stumpled upon this project looking for a simple 
midi-recorder for windows.
Looks like something I'd like to get involved in.

I am working with a mingw (tdm-4.3) and codeblocks workbench on XP here 
(not too keen on setting up vc for this) so i tried to go along 
importing the vc projects in codeblocks, adjusting the 
compiler-settings, patching the source. I found that this is a pure ansi 
project, while my wx2.8 being built unicode. So having read about the 
new wxString implementation in wx2.9 - that has unicode/ansi merged with 
fancy constructors from char*, std::string etc - I continued with that, 
patching the source (mostly char* <> wxString conversions). But after 
some time I had to stop short on this (marked deprecated) proplist 
thing, that just doesn't want to compile for 2.9 anymore.

Long story, just a few questions:
- Are there efforts for a mingw port/setup? I do not mean to switch and 
not for releases (for executable size is pretty bad compared to vc), 
just as an alternative for the devs.
- Could anybody upload a binary (windows)? I'd like to get an idea of 
what the prop-thing practically does (plan to replace it with something 
else).
- Why no intermediate nightly builds for win32?
- What about migrating the wx-version to 2.9 => wx30? Maybe (probably) 
in a separate branch.


Big hello for a start. Looking forward to your opinions on these ideas.

But for now:
Happy Xmas everybody !

- Björn Pfeiffer

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Pete S. <pst...@gm...>]

BP = Björn Pfeiffer
BP> Hi everybody,
BP> I just recently stumbled upon this project
BP> looking for a simple midi-recorder for windows.

We're not recording yet, but I'm starting to work with the 
portmedia/portmidi project to make this happen.

BP> Looks like something I'd like to get involved in.

Sounds great.

BP> I am working with a mingw (tdm-4.3) and codeblocks
BP> workbench on XP here (not too keen on setting up
BP> vc for this) so i tried to go along importing the
BP> vc projects in codeblocks, adjusting the
BP> compiler-settings, patching the source.  I found
BP> that this is a pure ansi project, while my wx2.8
BP> being built unicode.

I would be interested in an ANSI + STL wxWidgets 2.8.9 build using MinGW 
for CodeBlocks.  Would you like to take a crack at that?

BP> So having read about the new wxString implementation
BP> in wx2.9 - that has unicode/ansi merged with fancy
BP> constructors from char*, std::string etc - I
BP> continued with that, patching the source
BP> (mostly char* <> wxString conversions).

We don't need this.  Note that we build wxWidgets with wxUSE_STL and it 
gets around this problem.

BP> But after some time I had to stop short on this
BP> (marked deprecated) proplist thing, that just
BP> doesn't want to compile for 2.9 anymore.

For now we are sticking with wx 2.8.* until 3.0.* is out and is stable 
w.r.t. the API.

BP> Long story, just a few questions:
BP> - Are there efforts for a mingw port/setup?

No, but this would be welcome.

BP> I do not mean to switch and not for releases
BP> (for executable size is pretty bad compared to vc),
BP> just as an alternative for the devs.

I like the idea because the more platforms/compilers you build a code 
with, the better the code gets because each platform/compiler highlights 
different issues.

BP> - Could anybody upload a binary (windows)?
BP> I'd like to get an idea of what the prop-thing
BP> practically does (plan to replace it with
BP> something else).

I might take a crack at this over the weekend or possibly email you a 
version directly.

BP> - Why no intermediate nightly builds for win32?

The code just isn't ready for this.

BP> - What about migrating the wx-version to
BP> 2.9 => wx30? Maybe (probably) in a separate
BP> branch.

I would prefer to skip 2.9 and wait until 3.0 is out and stable.  To 
many other problems with Jazz++ to deal with this at the moment.

BP> Big hello for a start.

Same here :-)

BP> Looking forward to your opinions on these ideas.
BP>
BP> But for now:
BP> Happy Xmas everybody !

Merry Christmas to you Björn.

Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Björn P. <bjo...@gm...>]

Meanwhile I have compiled wx with vc9 according to instructions on the 
website. That VC was idling around on my harddisk. BTW: I had to give 
them my e-mail for registering!!! ;-) but... I could not wait to see 
something. Fine.

And: I found a #BUG! :-)
...in
MetronomeSettingsDialog.cpp +85 (constructor)
Menu: Settings->Metronome
<< mIndexToName is used (indexed [0]) but empty.


As for ansi/unicode: I'll give it a try.
Gcc on windows is basically the same as on linux but the 
mingw/codeblocks approach wo wx has recently gained much momentum on 
windows, so this might attract more people to jazz++ (how many active 
devs are around here actually?)
On the other hand... I don't know what release-plans are, but by the 
time jazz++ will be ready for prime-time we might also see wx-2.9 -> 3.0 
around. So maybe I'd vote for an intermediate branch, but that's not 
really important for now, as you stated.

As for the deprecated proplist-thingy, what are your plans on this?
Ok, enough now. I will spend some time looking into the source, that 
will keep me busy enough for the next time.

Greetings,
Björn


Am 24.12.2008 01:32 schrieb Pete Stieber:
> BP = Björn Pfeiffer
> BP> Hi everybody,
> BP> I just recently stumbled upon this project
> BP> looking for a simple midi-recorder for windows.
> 
> We're not recording yet, but I'm starting to work with the 
> portmedia/portmidi project to make this happen.
> BP> Looks like something I'd like to get involved in.
> 
> Sounds great.
> 
> BP> I am working with a mingw (tdm-4.3) and codeblocks
> BP> workbench on XP here (not too keen on setting up
> BP> vc for this) so i tried to go along importing the
> BP> vc projects in codeblocks, adjusting the
> BP> compiler-settings, patching the source.  I found
> BP> that this is a pure ansi project, while my wx2.8
> BP> being built unicode.
> 
> I would be interested in an ANSI + STL wxWidgets 2.8.9 build using MinGW 
> for CodeBlocks.  Would you like to take a crack at that?
> 
> BP> So having read about the new wxString implementation
> BP> in wx2.9 - that has unicode/ansi merged with fancy
> BP> constructors from char*, std::string etc - I
> BP> continued with that, patching the source
> BP> (mostly char* <> wxString conversions).
> 
> We don't need this.  Note that we build wxWidgets with wxUSE_STL and it 
> gets around this problem.
> 
> BP> But after some time I had to stop short on this
> BP> (marked deprecated) proplist thing, that just
> BP> doesn't want to compile for 2.9 anymore.
> 
> For now we are sticking with wx 2.8.* until 3.0.* is out and is stable 
> w.r.t. the API.
> 
> BP> Long story, just a few questions:
> BP> - Are there efforts for a mingw port/setup?
> 
> No, but this would be welcome.
> 
> BP> I do not mean to switch and not for releases
> BP> (for executable size is pretty bad compared to vc),
> BP> just as an alternative for the devs.
> 
> I like the idea because the more platforms/compilers you build a code 
> with, the better the code gets because each platform/compiler highlights 
> different issues.
> 
> BP> - Could anybody upload a binary (windows)?
> BP> I'd like to get an idea of what the prop-thing
> BP> practically does (plan to replace it with
> BP> something else).
> 
> I might take a crack at this over the weekend or possibly email you a 
> version directly.
> 
> BP> - Why no intermediate nightly builds for win32?
> 
> The code just isn't ready for this.
> 
> BP> - What about migrating the wx-version to
> BP> 2.9 => wx30? Maybe (probably) in a separate
> BP> branch.
> 
> I would prefer to skip 2.9 and wait until 3.0 is out and stable.  To 
> many other problems with Jazz++ to deal with this at the moment.
> 
> BP> Big hello for a start.
> 
> Same here :-)
> 
> BP> Looking forward to your opinions on these ideas.
> BP>
> BP> But for now:
> BP> Happy Xmas everybody !
> 
> Merry Christmas to you Björn.
> 
> Pete
> 
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Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Pete S. <pst...@gm...>]

BP = Björn Pfeiffer
BP> Meanwhile I have compiled wx with vc9 according
BP> to instructions on the website.  That VC was
BP> idling around on my harddisk.  BTW: I had to
BP> give them my e-mail for registering!!! ;-)

Wonderful.  Enjoy the Microsoft spam.

BP> but... I could not wait to see something. Fine.
BP>
BP> And: I found a #BUG! :-)
BP> ...in
BP> MetronomeSettingsDialog.cpp +85 (constructor)
BP> Menu: Settings->Metronome
BP> << mIndexToName is used (indexed [0]) but empty.

Update.

BP> As for ansi/unicode: I'll give it a try.
BP> Gcc on windows is basically the same as on linux
BP> but the mingw/codeblocks approach wo wx has
BP> recently gained much momentum on windows, so
BP> this might attract more people to jazz++ (how
BP> many active devs are around here actually?)

I'm it.

BP> On the other hand... I don't know what
BP> release-plans are,

There aren't any.

BP> but by the time jazz++ will be ready for
BP> prime-time we might also see wx-2.9 -> 3.0
BP> around. So maybe I'd vote for an
BP> intermediate branch, but that's not
BP> really important for now, as you stated.
BP>
BP> As for the deprecated proplist-thingy, what
BP> are your plans on this?

Replace user interface components that use it with modern wxWidgets 
controls.

Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Björn P. <bjo...@gm...>]

Am 24.12.2008 06:41 schrieb Pete Stieber:
> BP = Björn Pfeiffer
> BP> Meanwhile I have compiled wx with vc9 according
> BP> to instructions on the website.  That VC was
> BP> idling around on my harddisk.  BTW: I had to
> BP> give them my e-mail for registering!!! ;-)
> 
> Wonderful.  Enjoy the Microsoft spam.
> 
> BP> but... I could not wait to see something. Fine.
> BP>
> BP> And: I found a #BUG! :-)
> BP> ...in
> BP> MetronomeSettingsDialog.cpp +85 (constructor)
> BP> Menu: Settings->Metronome
> BP> << mIndexToName is used (indexed [0]) but empty.
> 
> Update.
Did that. Fine.

> BP> As for ansi/unicode: I'll give it a try.
The CB projects are ready to go. It took some patches in the source to 
make it compile and run but the vc-build is still fine.
I will pm you the patch and the new project-files soon.

> BP> Gcc on windows is basically the same as on linux
> BP> but the mingw/codeblocks approach wo wx has
> BP> recently gained much momentum on windows, so
> BP> this might attract more people to jazz++ (how
> BP> many active devs are around here actually?)
> 
> I'm it.
That's fine, the lonesome-cowboy-story. ;-)
While Jazz++ is not 'exactly' the tool I was looking for (and maybe
never will be) I am really eager to get my hands on some music/midi
software project. And this really matches my profile, so to say.
Think I might be in it too now, joining the ride for some part of the 
way at least.

> BP> On the other hand... I don't know what
> BP> release-plans are,
> 
> There aren't any.
Excellent. No schedule, no stress, no panic. A wide open space of
possibilities.

> BP> but by the time jazz++ will be ready for
> BP> prime-time we might also see wx-2.9 -> 3.0
> BP> around. So maybe I'd vote for an
> BP> intermediate branch, but that's not
> BP> really important for now, as you stated.
> BP>
> BP> As for the deprecated proplist-thingy, what
> BP> are your plans on this?
> 
> Replace user interface components that use it with modern wxWidgets 
> controls.
I might take a look into this. Can you give me a quick overview of the
widgets affected?


XMas-Greetings,
Björn

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] Long hello

[Pete S. <pst...@gm...>]

BP = Björn Pfeiffer
BP> The CB projects are ready to go. It took some
BP> patches in the source to make it compile and
BP> run but the vc-build is still fine.  I will
BP> pm you the patch and the new project-files soon.

I got them.  I noticed you patched some code that isn't built in the VS 
version.  This got me looking where the deprecated wx prop* stuff was 
used and what it would take to update those UI components.

I just uploaded an old version of Jazz++ so you (and anyone else 
listening who uses a Windows box) could download it to see how the code 
used to work.

Do you think you'll have time to convert any dialog boxes for me?

I'm going to convert the event filter dialog tomorrow.  Maybe that can 
be an example for the conversion process.

Any help converting dialog boxes would be welcome.

Hope everyone has a great new year,
Pete