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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-06-08 00:25:09
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Greetings,
Most all of the linux specific texts are finished, so I've spent this past
week with my electronics repair technician's hat on debugging/reworking PCB jobs.
Those jobs behind me, I've returned here and noted Pete has changed some things
in the tex2rtf source code, related to the earlier discovery of how tex2rtf is handling
embedded mark-ups in the jazz.tex file with the HTML conversion path...
I'm guessing this is going to change a few things (build wise) for people building from
(svn) source -- I imagine this won't affect binary releases (when they happen) at all.
The changes made to tex2rtf by Pete, now render this separate tex2rtf fork as being
functionally disparate from that tex2rtf source contained (at the moment) in the wxWidgets
package. As we've noted, 'at the moment' is very much that, and tex2rtf might drop out of
the wxWidgets tree at some future juncture. I would deduce from all this, that the mark-up
issues coupled with tex2rtf's uncertain future in the wxWidgets tree, has left Pete little other
choice than to fix/alter tex2rtf for jazz++ use, and also make such available as it's own
separate package release for builders of jazz++ from source tarball/svn gets...
One could suppose that the tex2rtf in the wxWidgets tree is going to remain static from
now until the end of it's days there, and that one could probably patch the wxWidgets
tree to include the changes to the tex2rtf sources + alter config scripts so tex2rtf gets
defaultly built as part of the current 'building wxWidgets' instructions - this still means
users have to undertake an extra set of steps here, either download and apply the patch
as part of the wx build, or else download, build and install the tex2rtf package ; IMHO
this latter option is the way to go...
This of course all infers that there will be changes pending to the content of htdocs
as a result -- having been forewarned, I too have the whole coming week 'free' to
do with as I see fit ... so Pete, just toss any of this at me when you get to it. The
pending content still to be added to jazz.tex will appear as a number of patches
after all this spinning is resolved.
Regards,
Donald B
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-06-10 19:06:30
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DM = D.B. Moore DM> Greetings, DM> Most all of the linux specific texts are finished, so I've spent this past DM> week with my electronics repair technician's hat on debugging/reworking DM> PCB jobs. Those jobs behind me, I've returned here and noted Pete DM> has changed some things in the tex2rtf source code, related to the DM> earlier discovery of how tex2rtf is handling embedded mark-ups in DM> the jazz.tex file with the HTML conversion path... The Tex2RTF code was using <UL></UL> for underline, but this tag is for an unordered list. The deprecated tag is <U></U>. I tried using the new recommended HTML style tag for underlining, but the wxWidgets HTML help control didn't parse it properly so I had to fall back to the deprecated <U></U>. DM> I'm guessing this is going to change a few things (build wise) for people DM> building from (svn) source -- I imagine this won't affect binary releases DM> (when they happen) at all. I don't think we have build instructions for Tex2RTF anywhere. We need to do this soon so we can integrate the help you are writing with the code. DM> The changes made to tex2rtf by Pete, now render this separate tex2rtf DM> fork as being functionally disparate from that tex2rtf source contained DM> (at the moment) in the wxWidgets package. As we've noted, 'at the DM> moment' is very much that, and tex2rtf might drop out of the wxWidgets DM> tree at some future juncture. I has been removed from the wxWidgets Subversion HEAD. DM> I would deduce from all this, that the mark-up issues coupled with DM> tex2rtf's uncertain future in the wxWidgets tree, has left Pete little DM> other choice than to fix/alter tex2rtf for jazz++ use, and also make DM> such available as it's own separate package release for builders DM> of jazz++ from source tarball/svn gets... DM> DM> One could suppose that the tex2rtf in the wxWidgets tree is going DM> to remain static from now until the end of it's days there, and that DM> one could probably patch the wxWidgets tree to include the changes DM> to the tex2rtf sources + alter config scripts so tex2rtf gets DM> defaultly built as part of the current 'building wxWidgets' DM> instructions - this still means users have to undertake an DM> extra set of steps here, either download and apply the patch DM> as part of the wx build, or else download, build and install the DM> tex2rtf package ; IMHO this latter option is the way to go... When the new wxWidgets comes out, I'm hoping to make Jazz++ work with it. Tex2RTF will not be in the wxWidgets source tree for the next version, so Jazz++ is supplying it. It really should be a separate project. DM> This of course all infers that there will be changes pending to the DM> content of htdocs as a result -- having been forewarned, I too DM> have the whole coming week 'free' to do with as I see fit ... so DM> Pete, just toss any of this at me when you get to it. The DM> pending content still to be added to jazz.tex will appear DM> as a number of patches after all this spinning is resolved. I dropped my wife off at the airport yesterday. The airport and my place of work are 50 miles (about a 1 hour drive) from my residence. She had some flight delays and I sayed at work until all was resolved... About 10:00 PM local time, so may Jazz++ work will start today. Let's get help building and tied to the code so you can see how that works. It's going to take me a while to get caught up. I just noticed the last update message I received was from May 27, and was version 579. We are on version 593 and I have no idea where those commit messages went. Today I received an administrative email telling me my own verizon account address was removed from jazzplusplus-devel list. Another poor soul with a verizon account was also dropped. I tried chatting with verizon, but no joy. Very frustrating. I wish I had the resources to host some of this stuff. Let me try to apply your patches and see if we can get on the same page with respect to help generation. Pete |
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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-06-11 00:30:20
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Greets, > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:06:05 -0700 > Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] tex2rtf changes noted > < snip > > DM> One could suppose that the tex2rtf in the wxWidgets tree is going > DM> to remain static from now until the end of it's days there, and that > DM> one could probably patch the wxWidgets tree to include the changes > DM> to the tex2rtf sources + alter config scripts so tex2rtf gets > DM> defaultly built as part of the current 'building wxWidgets' > DM> instructions - this still means users have to undertake an > DM> extra set of steps here, either download and apply the patch > DM> as part of the wx build, or else download, build and install the > DM> tex2rtf package ; IMHO this latter option is the way to go... > > When the new wxWidgets comes out, I'm hoping to make Jazz++ work with > it. Tex2RTF will not be in the wxWidgets source tree for the next > version, so Jazz++ is supplying it. It really should be a separate project. > I didn't actually realize it (tex2rtf) would be dropped so soon -- that said, such sure helps define the future . > DM> This of course all infers that there will be changes pending to the > DM> content of htdocs as a result -- having been forewarned, I too > DM> have the whole coming week 'free' to do with as I see fit ... so > DM> Pete, just toss any of this at me when you get to it. The > DM> pending content still to be added to jazz.tex will appear > DM> as a number of patches after all this spinning is resolved. > > I dropped my wife off at the airport yesterday. The airport and my > place of work are 50 miles (about a 1 hour drive) from my residence. > She had some flight delays and I sayed at work until all was > resolved... About 10:00 PM local time, so may Jazz++ work will start > today. Let's get help building and tied to the code so you can see how > that works. > > It's going to take me a while to get caught up. I just noticed the last > update message I received was from May 27, and was version 579. We are > on version 593 and I have no idea where those commit messages went. That's interesting - I believe the commit messages were in-sync up until the last bump to 593 -- there was no commit for that change. I had thought this was due to you manually fusing things together just then, but it seems there's more to it than that... > Today I received an administrative email telling me my own verizon > account address was removed from jazzplusplus-devel list. Another poor > soul with a verizon account was also dropped. I tried chatting with > verizon, but no joy. Very frustrating. I wish I had the resources to > host some of this stuff. Resources? Ok, what exactly do you need? (I used to be sys-admin at one or another ISP over here, so I do know my way around things like this).... > > Let me try to apply your patches and see if we can get on the same page > with respect to help generation. > > Pete > Yep, no problem Pete. Regards, Donald B _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT |
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-06-12 19:49:06
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PS = Pete Stieber PS>> It's going to take me a while to get caught up. PS>> I just noticed the last update message I received PS>> was from May 27, and was version 579. We are on PS>> version 593 and I have no idea where those commit PS>> messages went. DM = Donald B. Moore DM> That's interesting - I believe the commit messages DM> were in-sync up until the last bump to 593 -- there DM> was no commit for that change. I had thought this DM> was due to you manually fusing things together just DM> then, but it seems there's more to it than that... Look at the Source Forge archives... https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=jazzplusplus-updates It looks like 573-593 were skipped... PS>> Today I received an administrative email telling me PS>> my own verizon account address was removed from PS>> jazzplusplus-devel list. Another poor soul with a PS>> verizon account was also dropped. I tried chatting with PS>> verizon, but no joy. Very frustrating. I wish I had the PS>> resources to host some of this stuff. DM> Resources? Ok, what exactly do you need? (I used to be DM> sys-admin at one or another ISP over here, so I do know DM> my way around things like this).... A Linux box that could serve the Jazz++ mailing lists. I don't like the Source Forge archive format anyway, and the archives always seem to be missing messages. Pete |
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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-06-13 03:11:44
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Greets, > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:48:45 -0700 > Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] tex2rtf changes noted > > PS = Pete Stieber > PS>> It's going to take me a while to get caught up. > PS>> I just noticed the last update message I received > PS>> was from May 27, and was version 579. We are on > PS>> version 593 and I have no idea where those commit > PS>> messages went. > > DM = Donald B. Moore > DM> That's interesting - I believe the commit messages > DM> were in-sync up until the last bump to 593 -- there > DM> was no commit for that change. I had thought this > DM> was due to you manually fusing things together just > DM> then, but it seems there's more to it than that... > > Look at the Source Forge archives... > > https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=jazzplusplus-updates > > It looks like 573-593 were skipped... > .....actually, I saw 573 thru 579 inclusive, then it went off the rails... > PS>> Today I received an administrative email telling me > PS>> my own verizon account address was removed from > PS>> jazzplusplus-devel list. Another poor soul with a > PS>> verizon account was also dropped. I tried chatting with > PS>> verizon, but no joy. Very frustrating. I wish I had the > PS>> resources to host some of this stuff. > > DM> Resources? Ok, what exactly do you need? (I used to be > DM> sys-admin at one or another ISP over here, so I do know > DM> my way around things like this).... > > A Linux box that could serve the Jazz++ mailing lists. I don't like the > Source Forge archive format anyway, and the archives always seem to be > missing messages. > Considering the low volume of it, I could easily do that here at home. What software were you looking to use? How would the DNS be resolved? Regards, Donald B _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT |
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-06-13 13:56:54
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PS = Pete Stieber PS>>>> It's going to take me a while to get caught up. PS>>>> I just noticed the last update message I received PS>>>> was from May 27, and was version 579. We are on PS>>>> version 593 and I have no idea where those commit PS>>>> messages went. DM = Donald B. Moore DM>>> That's interesting - I believe the commit messages DM>>> were in-sync up until the last bump to 593 -- there DM>>> was no commit for that change. I had thought this DM>>> was due to you manually fusing things together just DM>>> then, but it seems there's more to it than that... PS>> Look at the Source Forge archives... PS>> PS>> https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=jazzplusplus-updates PS>> PS>> It looks like 573-593 were skipped... DM> .....actually, I saw 573 thru 579 inclusive, then DM> it went off the rails... Yes, I received them, but they are not in the archives at Source Forge. See the link above. The most recent list has 594 572 566 560 . . . Maybe this is a result of using the "Ultimate" view... Yeah, that's it. For some reason 574-577 are all in a thread under 573. I'm not sure why. PS>>>> Today I received an administrative email telling me PS>>>> my own verizon account address was removed from PS>>>> jazzplusplus-devel list. Another poor soul with a PS>>>> verizon account was also dropped. I tried chatting with PS>>>> verizon, but no joy. Very frustrating. I wish I had the PS>>>> resources to host some of this stuff. DM>>> Resources? Ok, what exactly do you need? (I used to be DM>>> sys-admin at one or another ISP over here, so I do know DM>>> my way around things like this).... PS>> A Linux box that could serve the Jazz++ mailing lists. PS>> I don't like the Source Forge archive format anyway, PS>> and the archives always seem to be missing messages. DM> Considering the low volume of it, I could easily do DM> that here at home. What software were you looking DM> to use? How would the DNS be resolved? Let's hold off on this for a while. Too much to do related to Jazz++, well actually Tex2RTF at the moment ;-) Pete |
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