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From: Kevin C. <ke...@co...> - 2008-05-18 04:04:38
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On 17 May 2008 at 15:02, Pete Stieber <pst...@gm...> wrote: > I just received an announcement about "Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring". I > take it this would be newer that the 2008.0 version I loaded. Is that true? 2008 Spring is also known as 2008.1. > Should I give it a try? I like 2008.1. The only trouble I had with it was that I had to blacklist a couple things in the modules startup stuff. That computer is turned off right now, or I could tell you exactly what I did. It works well. I don't know how it does for jazz tho. I could find out. Would you rather me try to build jazz there first? Thanks.... -- Kevin |
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From: Kevin C. <ke...@co...> - 2008-05-19 16:05:37
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On 18 May 2008 at 15:44, Pete Stieber <pst...@gm...> wrote: > Kevin, > I hope I didn't waste too much of your time on this. None. It's been really hot up here, 95F on Friday. The room where I have my computer gets hotter than that, and that's where I have my music gear and computer. I don't have air conditioning, and that computer has been off since Thursday. Weather is supposed to cool down a bit starting today. I'll see if I can get any testing done starting tomorrow or the day after. I'm also going to be a single dad for 10 days while my wife goes to Honduras to build houses with Habitat for Humanity. Her company sponsors 4 teams of 10-12 people per year to do that work -- very cool, if you ask me. But, it does mean that I'm outnumbered by my kids, ages 4 & 6. We'll see if that chews up my free time. Cheers... -- Kevin |
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-05-18 04:41:45
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PS = Pete Stieber PS>> I just received an announcement about PS>> "Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring". I take it PS>> this would be newer than the 2008.0 version PS>> I loaded. Is that true? KC = Kevin Cosgrove KC> 2008 Spring is also known as 2008.1. Yeah. I started downloading the DVD. The download is 80% complete with about 43 min to go. PS>> Should I give it a try? KC> I like 2008.1. The only trouble I had with it KC> was that I had to blacklist a couple things in KC> the modules startup stuff. That computer is KC> turned off right now, or I could tell you exactly KC> what I did. It works well. I don't know how it KC> does for jazz tho. I could find out. Would you KC> rather me try to build jazz there first? Since I'm having a heck of a time with 2008.0, I'm going to 1. Attempt to upgrade the BIOS for the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe MB I'm running it on, but to be honest, I've run Win 98, 2000, XP, Fedora 3, 4, and 5 without the need for this, so I doubt it will help. 2. Wipe out the disk that has 2008.0 with 2008.1 and start over. I tried to use that disk today and it refuses to recognize my USB keyboard/mouse. The POST recognized it, but not 2008.0. If you could give it a try this would be greatly appreciated. I can't remember if I've mentioned this, but I've ordered a drive bay for my new Dell box plus 5 SATA drive cases so I can swap out drives to try different OSs. Fedora 9 is out and I want to give it a try too. 1. Windows XP 2. Windows Vista 3. Mandriva 4. Ubuntu 5. Fedora I figured VMware would have problems with sound drivers. Thanks Kevin, Pete |
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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-05-19 02:46:43
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---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:44:40 -0700 > Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Mandriva Release? > > PS = Pete Stieber > PS>>> I just received an announcement about > PS>>> "Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring". I take it > PS>>> this would be newer than the 2008.0 version > PS>>> I loaded. Is that true? > > KC = Kevin Cosgrove > KC>> 2008 Spring is also known as 2008.1. > > PS> Yeah. I started downloading the DVD. The > PS> download is 80% complete with about 43 min > PS> to go. > > I have the 2008.1 DVD downloaded and burnt, but haven't used it. See > below... > > PS> Since I'm having a heck of a time with 2008.0, > PS> I'm going to > PS> > PS> 1. Attempt to upgrade the BIOS for the ASUS > PS> A7N8X Deluxe MB I'm running it on, but to be > PS> honest, I've run Win 98, 2000, XP, Fedora 3, > PS> 4, and 5 without the need for this, so I doubt > PS> it will help. > PS> 2. Wipe out the disk that has 2008.0 with 2008.1 > PS> and start over. > PS> > PS> I tried to use that disk today and it refuses > PS> to recognize my USB keyboard/mouse. The POST > PS> recognized it, but not 2008.0. > > So this morning I upgraded the MB BIOS. I'm not sure that helped > anything, but I did make a change that helped. > > The keyboard and mouse I use on the machine are wireless and produced by > Logitec. For all of the OSs I've used to this point, I've attached a > single USB connector from the bluetooth receiver and that connection has > worked for both the KB and mouse. Today I connected a USB to KB > (usually purple in color) adapter and hooked that up to the PS2 KB > input. Then I hooked up the PS2 mouse connector (usually green) to the > PS2 mouse input on the MB. When I only use the USB connector, this > mouse input is unused. > > When I booted the Mandrive 2008.0 hard drive, it prompted me for the > 2008.0 DVD so it could setup new inputs for X11. After all of this, the > KB and mouse seem to work all of the time. I don't think this has > anything to do with the BIOS upgrade, just the switch from a single USB > connection (X must not have liked this) to a PS2 KB adapter on the USB > connector and plugging in the previously unused PS2 mouse cable from the > logitec receiver. > > After all of this, I updated my Jazz++ source, built the code, and it's > running. I'll report back on the other thread w.r.t trying to solve > Donald's latest Linux problem. > > I'm hoping all of my Mandiva hangs will now be fixed. I haven't even > tried the 2008.1 disk I downloaded. Well done finding that one...it's one of those type of problems that seem to defy rational logic....even if the gear is branded 'logitec'...;-) It's also a bit strange it asked for the disk again. because really, what you've done should only have necessitated (at most) a few alterations to the system xconfig....(if you want to send me your xf86config file I could look and unravel what the madriva makeup looks like)... Good result though..."get into it lad!" ;-) Regards, Donald B _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT |
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-05-18 22:44:45
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PS = Pete Stieber PS>>> I just received an announcement about PS>>> "Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring". I take it PS>>> this would be newer than the 2008.0 version PS>>> I loaded. Is that true? KC = Kevin Cosgrove KC>> 2008 Spring is also known as 2008.1. PS> Yeah. I started downloading the DVD. The PS> download is 80% complete with about 43 min PS> to go. I have the 2008.1 DVD downloaded and burnt, but haven't used it. See below... PS> Since I'm having a heck of a time with 2008.0, PS> I'm going to PS> PS> 1. Attempt to upgrade the BIOS for the ASUS PS> A7N8X Deluxe MB I'm running it on, but to be PS> honest, I've run Win 98, 2000, XP, Fedora 3, PS> 4, and 5 without the need for this, so I doubt PS> it will help. PS> 2. Wipe out the disk that has 2008.0 with 2008.1 PS> and start over. PS> PS> I tried to use that disk today and it refuses PS> to recognize my USB keyboard/mouse. The POST PS> recognized it, but not 2008.0. So this morning I upgraded the MB BIOS. I'm not sure that helped anything, but I did make a change that helped. The keyboard and mouse I use on the machine are wireless and produced by Logitec. For all of the OSs I've used to this point, I've attached a single USB connector from the bluetooth receiver and that connection has worked for both the KB and mouse. Today I connected a USB to KB (usually purple in color) adapter and hooked that up to the PS2 KB input. Then I hooked up the PS2 mouse connector (usually green) to the PS2 mouse input on the MB. When I only use the USB connector, this mouse input is unused. When I booted the Mandrive 2008.0 hard drive, it prompted me for the 2008.0 DVD so it could setup new inputs for X11. After all of this, the KB and mouse seem to work all of the time. I don't think this has anything to do with the BIOS upgrade, just the switch from a single USB connection (X must not have liked this) to a PS2 KB adapter on the USB connector and plugging in the previously unused PS2 mouse cable from the logitec receiver. After all of this, I updated my Jazz++ source, built the code, and it's running. I'll report back on the other thread w.r.t trying to solve Donald's latest Linux problem. I'm hoping all of my Mandiva hangs will now be fixed. I haven't even tried the 2008.1 disk I downloaded. Kevin, I hope I didn't waste too much of your time on this. Pete |
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From: Pete S. <pst...@gm...> - 2008-05-19 04:25:10
Attachments:
xorg.conf
xorg.conf.old
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PS>>> Since I'm having a heck of a time with 2008.0, PS>>> I'm going to PS>>> PS>>> 1. Attempt to upgrade the BIOS for the ASUS PS>>> A7N8X Deluxe MB I'm running it on, but to be PS>>> honest, I've run Win 98, 2000, XP, Fedora 3, PS>>> 4, and 5 without the need for this, so I doubt PS>>> it will help. PS>>> 2. Wipe out the disk that has 2008.0 with 2008.1 PS>>> and start over. PS>>> PS>>> I tried to use that disk today and it refuses PS>>> to recognize my USB keyboard/mouse. The POST PS>>> recognized it, but not 2008.0. PS>> So this morning I upgraded the MB BIOS. I'm not PS>> sure that helped anything, but I did make a change PS>> that helped. PS>> PS>> The keyboard and mouse I use on the machine are PS>> wireless and produced by Logitec. For all of PS>> the OSs I've used to this point, I've attached a PS>> single USB connector from the bluetooth receiver PS>> and that connection has worked for both the KB PS>> and mouse. Today I connected a USB to KB (usually PS>> purple in color) adapter and hooked that up to the PS>> PS2 KB input. Then I hooked up the PS2 mouse PS>> connector (usually green) to the PS2 mouse input PS>> on the MB. When I only use the USB connector, PS>> this mouse input is unused. PS>> PS>> When I booted the Mandrive 2008.0 hard drive, it PS>> prompted me for the 2008.0 DVD so it could setup PS>> new inputs for X11. After all of this, the KB and PS>> mouse seem to work all of the time. I don't think PS>> this has anything to do with the BIOS upgrade, just PS>> the switch from a single USB connection (X must not PS>> have liked this) to a PS2 KB adapter on the USB PS>> connector and plugging in the previously unused PS2 PS>> mouse cable from the logitec receiver. PS>> PS>> After all of this, I updated my Jazz++ source, built PS>> the code, and it's running. I'll report back on the PS>> other thread w.r.t trying to solve Donald's latest PS>> Linux problem. PS>> PS>> I'm hoping all of my Mandiva hangs will now be fixed. PS>> I haven't even tried the 2008.1 disk I downloaded. DM = D.B. Moore DM> Well done finding that one...it's one of those type DM> of problems that seem to defy rational logic....even DM> if the gear is branded 'logitec'...;-) DM> DM> It's also a bit strange it asked for the disk again. DM> because really, what you've done should only have DM> necessitated (at most) a few alterations to the DM> system xconfig....(if you want to send me your DM> xf86config file I could look and unravel what the DM> madriva makeup looks like)... This is getting a bit off-topic for Jazz++, but I have attached two xorg.conf files, the non-working file (xorg.conf.old) and the working version (xorg.conf). You can diff them and see the difference in the mouse configuration. I figured a different driver was loaded. That's why it needed the DVD. Pete |
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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-05-19 05:24:03
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Greets, ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:25:09 -0700 > Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Mandriva Release? > > PS>>> Since I'm having a heck of a time with 2008.0, > PS>>> I'm going to ..< snip> .... > PS>> I'm hoping all of my Mandiva hangs will now be fixed. > PS>> I haven't even tried the 2008.1 disk I downloaded. > > DM = D.B. Moore > DM> Well done finding that one...it's one of those type > DM> of problems that seem to defy rational logic....even > DM> if the gear is branded 'logitec'...;-) > DM> > DM> It's also a bit strange it asked for the disk again. > DM> because really, what you've done should only have > DM> necessitated (at most) a few alterations to the > DM> system xconfig....(if you want to send me your > DM> xf86config file I could look and unravel what the > DM> madriva makeup looks like)... > > This is getting a bit off-topic for Jazz++, but I have attached two > xorg.conf files, the non-working file (xorg.conf.old) and the > working version (xorg.conf). You can diff them and see the difference > in the mouse configuration. Technically...yes...this is off topic for in -here-, and would be something more appropriate for -user , however, we will calmly look around and see who the pre-release userbase is actually is, smile, pat each other on the back... < grin> 'Documentation animal' -- if I can find and isolate a common cause of problems running jazz++ on a specific distro, here mandriva 2008 is the focus, I will document it, cause, fix...etc...so the answer is there -before- release time...I try to be ...'thorough' before the fact (which is very likely caused by my mechanic's mind outlook to assembly complex machines ;-) > > I figured a different driver was loaded. That's why it needed the DVD. > Perhaps they've modularized something that a lot of vendors include as standard....but, yep, off topic here, will look at it later, and if I find anything useful..see this discussion again as a docs patch ;-) Regards, Donald B _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT |
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From: D.B. M. <db...@ho...> - 2008-05-19 14:19:45
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> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:25:09 -0700
> Subject: Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Mandriva Release?
>
.. < snip>...
> PS>>
> PS>> The keyboard and mouse I use on the machine are
> PS>> wireless and produced by Logitec. For all of
> PS>> the OSs I've used to this point, I've attached a
> PS>> single USB connector from the bluetooth receiver
> PS>> and that connection has worked for both the KB
> PS>> and mouse. Today I connected a USB to KB (usually
> PS>> purple in color) adapter and hooked that up to the
> PS>> PS2 KB input. Then I hooked up the PS2 mouse
> PS>> connector (usually green) to the PS2 mouse input
> PS>> on the MB. When I only use the USB connector,
> PS>> this mouse input is unused.
> PS>>
> PS>> When I booted the Mandrive 2008.0 hard drive, it
> PS>> prompted me for the 2008.0 DVD so it could setup
> PS>> new inputs for X11. After all of this, the KB and
> PS>> mouse seem to work all of the time. I don't think
> PS>> this has anything to do with the BIOS upgrade, just
> PS>> the switch from a single USB connection (X must not
> PS>> have liked this) to a PS2 KB adapter on the USB
> PS>> connector and plugging in the previously unused PS2
> PS>> mouse cable from the logitec receiver.
> PS>>
> PS>> After all of this, I updated my Jazz++ source, built
> PS>> the code, and it's running. I'll report back on the
> PS>> other thread w.r.t trying to solve Donald's latest
> PS>> Linux problem.
> PS>>
> PS>> I'm hoping all of my Mandiva hangs will now be fixed.
> PS>> I haven't even tried the 2008.1 disk I downloaded.
>
> DM = D.B. Moore
> DM> Well done finding that one...it's one of those type
> DM> of problems that seem to defy rational logic....even
> DM> if the gear is branded 'logitec'...;-)
> DM>
> DM> It's also a bit strange it asked for the disk again.
> DM> because really, what you've done should only have
> DM> necessitated (at most) a few alterations to the
> DM> system xconfig....(if you want to send me your
> DM> xf86config file I could look and unravel what the
> DM> madriva makeup looks like)...
>
> This is getting a bit off-topic for Jazz++, but I have attached two
> xorg.conf files, the non-working file (xorg.conf.old) and the
> working version (xorg.conf). You can diff them and see the difference
> in the mouse configuration.
>
> I figured a different driver was loaded. That's why it needed the DVD.
>
Just shining the torch light on this one last time here.....in your -original-
xorg.conf, you had ;
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection
...which is what one would expect. After you did what you did
and after the disc did whatever, you've got ;
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse2"
Driver "evdev"
Option "bustype" "0x0011"
Option "relBits" "+0+1+2"
Option "product" "0x0006"
Option "vendor" "0x0002"
Option "HWheelRelativeAxisButtons" "7 6"
EndSection
.....this would suggest the event_device interface
which apparently the logitec mouse interface supports,
isn't being detected/configured when it's across the USB bus.
This looks like one of those goofy problems which,
I'll hazard a guess, may be fixed in the new 2008.1 set.
Torch off....
Regards,
Donald B
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