jazzplusplus-devel

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 3 April 2008 at 7:13, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:

> I've separated the build instructions into wxWidgets and Jazz++ pages...
> 
> http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingwx/
> 
> http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingjazz/
> 
> Let me know if anything isn't clear or you find typos or errors.

It seems to be working.  I'm building wxWidgets on my Mandriva 2008.0 
laptop.  It took a while to load all the development stuff on it.  I
normally just use it as a remote terminal to SSH into one of the other
machines at the house, or I'll use it as a portable video player to 
watch streaming video, but no development until now.

I'll let you know how the jazz build goes, which I'm certain won't 
start tonight.

Thanks! 
--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 4 April 2008 at 7:40, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:

> Thanks Kevin.  I'm trying to understand the Jazz++ zombie process that 
> lives on when I exit Jazz++.  It looks like it has to do with the ALSA 
> connection.  When I reboot, the ALSA close message even fails.  This 
> doesn't happen on the Fedora 8 box I test on.

Rather than rebooting, is there an alsa service in /etc/init.d/...
which could be restarted with the 'service' command?  Alternatively, 
could 'alsactl' be used to shutdown alsa, rather than needing to 
reboot?

> Keep us posted, and thanks for all of the testing,

Will do, and you're welcome!

--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> Thanks Kevin.  I'm trying to understand the Jazz++
PS>> zombie process that lives on when I exit Jazz++.
PS>> It looks like it has to do with the ALSA connection.
PS>> When I reboot, the ALSA close message even fails.
PS>> This doesn't happen on the Fedora 8 box I test on.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC> Rather than rebooting, is there an alsa service in
KC> /etc/init.d/... which could be restarted with the
KC> 'service' command?

Thanks for suggesting this Kevin.  I'm a long time Red Hat/Fedora user 
and though the "service" command was specific to Red Hat.

I'm starting to think there is a problem that is independent of Jazz++. 
  I tried restarting ALSA from a cold boot and it also has problems...

# service alsa restart
Doing alsactrl to store mixer settings...          [  OK  ]
Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14): no. (sound is being 
used by pid    6272))                              [FAILED]
ALSA driver (version 1.0.14) is already running.

Process 6272 is the sound mixer applet (/usr/lib/mixer_applet2).

Is this normal.  I thought roo should be able to restart this service.

When I check to see what ALSA version I have installed...

$ rpm -qa | grep alsa
libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0
alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0

Should 1.0.14 be mixed with 1.0.15?

I don't want to get too caught up in Mandriva specific problems.  Maybe 
I botched the install?

Any ideas Kevin?

Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>>> Thanks Kevin.  I'm trying to understand the Jazz++
PS>>> zombie process that lives on when I exit Jazz++.
PS>>> It looks like it has to do with the ALSA connection.
PS>>> When I reboot, the ALSA close message even fails.
PS>>> This doesn't happen on the Fedora 8 box I test on.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC>> Rather than rebooting, is there an alsa service in
KC>> /etc/init.d/... which could be restarted with the
KC>> 'service' command?

PS> Thanks for suggesting this Kevin.  I'm a long time
PS> Red Hat/Fedora user and though the "service"
PS> command was specific to Red Hat.
PS>
PS> I'm starting to think there is a problem that is
PS> independent of Jazz++. I tried restarting
PS>  ALSA from a cold boot and it also has problems...
PS>
PS> # service alsa restart
PS> Doing alsactrl to store mixer settings...          [  OK  ]
PS> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14): no. (sound is being
PS> used by pid    6272))                              [FAILED]
PS> ALSA driver (version 1.0.14) is already running.
PS>
PS> Process 6272 is the sound mixer applet
PS> (/usr/lib/mixer_applet2).
PS>
PS> Is this normal.  I thought root should be able to
PS> restart this service.
PS>
PS> When I check to see what ALSA version I
PS> have installed...
PS> $ rpm -qa | grep alsa
PS> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0
PS> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
PS> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0
PS>
PS> Should 1.0.14 be mixed with 1.0.15?
PS>
PS> I don't want to get too caught up in Mandriva
PS> specific problems.  Maybe I botched the install?
PS>
PS> Any ideas Kevin?

I can't even stop the process with

# service alsa force-stop

This command tries to stop all processes attached to alsa, but gets 
stuck trying to kill the Jazz++ process with a SIGKILL.

I'm not sure what to do next.

Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS> I'm trying to understand the Jazz++
PS> zombie process that lives on when I exit Jazz++...

After putting in cout statements and rebooting several time, I think I 
commented out the offending code.

Kevin,

Make sure you update and rebuild Jazz++ before attempting to run it.

Robert,

If you are out there, you may want to update, rebuild and see how it goes.

Thanks for all of the help,
Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 4 April 2008 at 22:32, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:

> PS = Pete Stieber
> PS> I'm trying to understand the Jazz++
> PS> zombie process that lives on when I exit Jazz++...
> 
> After putting in cout statements and rebooting several time, I think I 
> commented out the offending code.
> 
> Kevin,
> Make sure you update and rebuild Jazz++ before attempting to run it.

OK, will do.  I've got wxWidgets to compile fine on the laptop.  I 
didn't do anything with Jazz++ yet.  So, your timing is great.

Thanks...
 
--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>>> I'm trying to understand the Jazz++
PS>>> zombie process that lives on when I exit Jazz++...

PS>> After putting in cout statements and rebooting
PS>> several time, I think I commented out the
PS>> offending code.
PS>>
PS>> Kevin,
PS>> Make sure you update and rebuild Jazz++ before
PS>> attempting to run it.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC> OK, will do.  I've got wxWidgets to compile fine
KC> on the laptop.  I didn't do anything with Jazz++
KC> yet.  So, your timing is great.

Kevin and anyone else who may be listening ;-)

I've done some preliminary work on the harmony browser.  Use "Tools... | 
Harmony Browser..." to give it a whirl.

Let me know if it is acting properly.  IIRC you were interested in this.

Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 7 April 2008 at 10:51, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:

> I've done some preliminary work on the harmony browser.  Use "Tools... | 
> Harmony Browser..." to give it a whirl.
> 
> Let me know if it is acting properly.  IIRC you were interested in this.

I was/am quite interested in the harmony browser.  It'll be the first 
feature I test out, other than basic operation.

Thanks.....

 
--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 4 April 2008 at 14:03, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:

> Thanks for suggesting this Kevin.  I'm a long time Red Hat/Fedora user 
> and though the "service" command was specific to Red Hat.
> 
> I'm starting to think there is a problem that is independent of Jazz++. 
>   I tried restarting ALSA from a cold boot and it also has problems...
> 
> # service alsa restart
> Doing alsactrl to store mixer settings...          [  OK  ]
> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14): no. (sound is being 
> used by pid    6272))                              [FAILED]
> ALSA driver (version 1.0.14) is already running.
> 
> Process 6272 is the sound mixer applet (/usr/lib/mixer_applet2).
> 
> Is this normal.  I thought roo should be able to restart this service.

That doesn't look normal.  Here's what I get:

   [root@laptop2-INCOMING #31] service alsa restart
   Doing alsactl to store mixer settings...                        [  OK  ]
   Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14):               [  OK  ]
   Starting ALSA version 1.0.14: snd_ali5451.                      [  OK  ]
   [root@laptop2-INCOMING #32] 


> When I check to see what ALSA version I have installed...
> 
> $ rpm -qa | grep alsa
> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0
> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0

Here's what I have that grep finds:

alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.12rc1_3mdv2008.0
alsaplayer-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0
alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
java-1.6.0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.05-1mdv2008.0
libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0


> Should 1.0.14 be mixed with 1.0.15?

Mine apparently is too.

> I don't want to get too caught up in Mandriva specific problems. 

I don't blame you for wanting to stay out of distribution specific 
traps, whatever the distribution or trap.

> Maybe I botched the install?

Did it seem to go smoothly?

> Any ideas Kevin?

See if anything else can access ALSA?  Does TiMidity play things?
How about [x]playmidi?

Good luck....
 
--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber wrote on 4 April 2008 at 14:03
PS>> I'm starting to think there is a problem that is
PS>> independent of Jazz++.  I tried restarting ALSA
PS>> from a cold boot and it also has problems...
PS>>
PS>> # service alsa restart
PS>> Doing alsactrl to store mixer settings...          [  OK  ]
PS>> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14): no.
PS>> sound is being used by pid 6272))                  [FAILED]
PS>> ALSA driver (version 1.0.14) is already running.
PS>>
PS>> Process 6272 is the sound mixer applet
PS>> (/usr/lib/mixer_applet2).
PS>>
PS>> Is this normal.  I thought root should be able
PS>> to restart this service.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC> That doesn't look normal.  Here's what I get:
KC>
KC> [root@laptop2-INCOMING #31] service alsa restart
KC> Doing alsactl to store mixer settings...             [  OK  ]
KC> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14):    [  OK  ]
KC> Starting ALSA version 1.0.14: snd_ali5451.           [  OK  ]
KC> [root@laptop2-INCOMING #32]

PS>> When I check to see what ALSA version I have installed...
PS>>
PS>> $ rpm -qa | grep alsa
PS>> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0
PS>> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
PS>> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0

KC> Here's what I have that grep finds:
KC>
KC> alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.12rc1_3mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0
KC> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
KC> java-1.6.0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.05-1mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0

PS>> Should 1.0.14 be mixed with 1.0.15?

KC> Mine apparently is too.

PS>> I don't want to get too caught up in Mandriva
PS>> specific problems.

KC> I don't blame you for wanting to stay out of
KC> distribution specific traps, whatever the
KC> distribution or trap.

PS>> Maybe I botched the install?

KC> Did it seem to go smoothly?

Yes.  I didn't have any problems.

PS>> Any ideas Kevin?

KC> See if anything else can access ALSA?  Does
KC> TiMidity play things?  How about [x]playmidi?

I'll give it a try when I get home.  I hear sound when I login and 
logout so I assumed sound was properly configured.

Thanks for the help,
Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber wrote on 4 April 2008 at 14:03
PS>>> I'm starting to think there is a problem that is
PS>>> independent of Jazz++.  I tried restarting ALSA
PS>>> from a cold boot and it also has problems...
PS>>>
PS>>> # service alsa restart
PS>>> Doing alsactrl to store mixer settings...          [  OK  ]
PS>>> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14): no.
PS>>> sound is being used by pid 6272))                  [FAILED]
PS>>> ALSA driver (version 1.0.14) is already running.
PS>>>
PS>>> Process 6272 is the sound mixer applet
PS>>> (/usr/lib/mixer_applet2).
PS>>>
PS>>> Is this normal.  I thought root should be able
PS>>> to restart this service.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC>> That doesn't look normal.  Here's what I get:
KC>>
KC>> [root@laptop2-INCOMING #31] service alsa restart
KC>> Doing alsactl to store mixer settings...             [  OK  ]
KC>> Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 1.0.14):    [  OK  ]
KC>> Starting ALSA version 1.0.14: snd_ali5451.           [  OK  ]
KC>> [root@laptop2-INCOMING #32]

PS>> When I check to see what ALSA version I have installed...
PS>>
PS>> $ rpm -qa | grep alsa
PS>> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
PS>> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0
PS>> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
PS>> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0

KC> Here's what I have that grep finds:
KC>
KC> alsamixergui-0.9.0-0.12rc1_3mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-input-sndfile-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-input-vorbis-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-output-jack-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsaplayer-plugin-ui-gtk-0.99.80-0.rc2.1mdv2008.0
KC> alsa-plugins-1.0.14-7mdv2008.0
KC> alsa-utils-1.0.15-0.rc1.1mdv2008.0
KC> java-1.6.0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.05-1mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa2-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa2-devel-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa-data-1.0.15-0.rc1.4mdv2008.0
KC> libalsa-oss0-1.0.14-2mdv2008.0

PS>> Should 1.0.14 be mixed with 1.0.15?

KC> Mine apparently is too.

PS>>> I don't want to get too caught up in Mandriva
PS>>> specific problems.

KC>> I don't blame you for wanting to stay out of
KC>> distribution specific traps, whatever the
KC>> distribution or trap.

PS>>> Maybe I botched the install?

KC>> Did it seem to go smoothly?

PS> Yes.  I didn't have any problems.

PS>>> Any ideas Kevin?

KC>> See if anything else can access ALSA?  Does
KC>> TiMidity play things?  How about [x]playmidi?

PS> I'll give it a try when I get home.  I hear
PS> sound when I login and logout so I assumed
PS> sound was properly configured.

Well Kevin, the last time I tried to use the machine with Mandriva, I 
couldn't even get it to recognize my USB keyboard.  I tried multiple 
reboots...

Tonight, everything worked.  Even the ALSA restart.  I even hooked up 
the M-AUDIO Uno cable I recommended in the other thread to my Roland 
TD-20 drum kit module, and Jazz++ worked using that setup.

I did install TIMidity++ and it played the file too.

Thanks for the help,
Pete

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Kevin C. <ke...@co...>]

On 9 April 2008 at 20:29, Pete Stieber <pst...@ve...> wrote:
 
> Well Kevin, the last time I tried to use the machine with Mandriva, I 
> couldn't even get it to recognize my USB keyboard.  I tried multiple 
> reboots...
> 
> Tonight, everything worked.  Even the ALSA restart.  I even hooked up 
> the M-AUDIO Uno cable I recommended in the other thread to my Roland 
> TD-20 drum kit module, and Jazz++ worked using that setup.
> 
> I did install TIMidity++ and it played the file too.

Glad it's working for ya.

> Thanks for the help,

Not that I actually DID anything, but you're welcome...
 
--
Kevin

Re: [jazzplusplus-devel] New Build Instructions on the Web Site

[Pete S. <pst...@ve...>]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> I've separated the build instructions into wxWidgets
PS>> and Jazz++ pages...
PS>>
PS>> http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingwx/
PS>>
PS>> http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/buildingjazz/
PS>>
PS>> Let me know if anything isn't clear or you find
PS>> typos or errors.

KC = Kevin Cosgrove
KC> It seems to be working.  I'm building wxWidgets on
KC> my Mandriva 2008.0 laptop.  It took a while to load
KC> all the development stuff on it.

Sorry about that.

KC> I normally just use it as a remote terminal to SSH
KC> into one of the other machines at the house, or
KC> I'll use it as a portable video player to watch
KC> watch streaming video, but no development until now.
KC> I'll let you know how the jazz build goes, which I'm
KC> certain won't start tonight.

Thanks Kevin.  I'm trying to understand the Jazz++ zombie process that 
lives on when I exit Jazz++.  It looks like it has to do with the ALSA 
connection.  When I reboot, the ALSA close message even fails.  This 
doesn't happen on the Fedora 8 box I test on.

I'll have more time to look at it this weekend.

Keep us posted, and thanks for all of the testing,
Pete