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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-02-08 17:38:29
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Quoting Berni...
> > q: can javadoc be generated from cvs or does it need the files explicitly ?
> Are you talking of the source files? No, javadoc is not (yet) integrated
> into CVS 8-|
<sigh />
> Of course you have to check out the sources before you can generate the
> javadoc stuff.
por supuesto...
> a propos: Would you like to write a cosy build.xml file for the project (as
> you are the one of us most experienced writing xml files :)
maybe, but youre better in writting build-files, i think. let's talk
about that monday, 'cause i currently need every space of time for my
thesis, you know.
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-02-08 14:16:00
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Quoting EdE... > Quoting Berni... >=20 > q: can javadoc be generated from cvs or does it need the files explicitly= ? Are you talking of the source files? No, javadoc is not (yet) integrated into CVS 8-| Of course you have to check out the sources before you can generate the javadoc stuff. a propos: Would you like to write a cosy build.xml file for the project (as you are the one of us most experienced writing xml files :) cu, berni |
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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-02-08 14:04:52
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Quoting Berni...
q: can javadoc be generated from cvs or does it need the files explicitly ?
> So far, berni
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-02-08 12:03:43
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So far, berni |
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-02-06 12:13:32
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The UI development is stuck, so I continued low priority stuff. - FTP protocol for data connection added (not yet tested). - plugin interface for parsing xtags from different files * ogg plugin * id3v1.1 (mpeg) plugin * html plugin * postscript plugin (Yes, I really did, don't even ask me why) * jpeg plugin I currently add mime type guessing (by magic number, not by file name extension). so far, berni |
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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-01-24 11:07:51
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luke, would you please tell me how far is your work on the right-click
menu in the fileselection-table, or other fileselection-mouse-events.
i would like to code that stuff, but i've no idea what you've done so
far.
please come online and tell me or better come to school if possible.
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-01-24 10:38:32
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Quoting Lucky... > On Thu Jan 24, 2002 at 09:2658AM +0100.11.%y, Berni <be...@kn...> wrote: > > Quoting Berni... > > first, I come later today because at 12hrs there comes someone to repair our > window, so I come after that. > > > > 1. Is there any reason why you set all the login data attributes in class > > > Status from private to protected? > > > > > > 2. Don't write buggy constructors. I like proper classes. Either initialize > > > ALL attributes or leave away the constructor. > > > > > > 3. Why the hell do we need set... () methods for login data attributes? > > > > > > 4. Usually I know what I'm doing (yes, I do!), at last better than you do. > > > Please ask me before you hack my code and threw over every single > > > paradigm I believe in. > > > > > > thanks. berni > > the 'thanks' looks a bit misplaced there, 'cause of the overall tone. > And I'm not really sure if you knew exactly what you did, there where some > typos, and when I read something like 'this.port = this.port' then I ask me > what hte hack did a good coder like you mean? I wrote the class at 7.45 pm, about 30 seconds before I had to leave. It could not finish the class, so I checked it in without a comment and I hoped no one would ever notice. Instead, you even derived a class from it! btw: thanks is not misplaced. It represents the respect for a reader that actually got this far. > > Now, little bit more constructive: > > > > Preferences is created as soon as the application gets started. Status on > > the other hand is always created for a login session. This is something > > different, because it should be possible to use jayshare even when you are > > offline (to set up the export list or to modify the download queue, both > > needs presence of the preferences, but not of status). > > > > That means: Preferences could use Status, but does not derive from it. It > > could send login data to the Status instance as soon as it is to be created. > > Well, i've thought about that and saw that preferences and status had nearly > the same fields, the same methods and the same intention (at least > partially). OOP for poor people ;) > > Another major difference: > > Preferences has to be persistent, Status is transient. I don't think it is a > > good idea to derive a persistent from a transient class, however, I'd love > > to get your arguments ... > > Ok, I see. That is an argument. But can't Preferences be persistent when > Status is not? I see that all this set-methods belong to Prefeernces and not > status, but I don't see why the fields have to be private instead of > protected. if they were protected, we could save a few loc and all the > hickhack for making preferences aware of status and so on. I added a small sketch for sessioning to documentation/development/misc/flow.txt There you can see that responsibilities and usage of the both classes are rather different. Of course it is possible to derive Preferences from Status (then the empty Status() contructor has to be set protected and the set... methods have to be moved to Preferences). You also could derive the Vector class from Windows_XP_Kernel ... > Lukas berni |
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From: Lucky <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-24 10:24:07
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On Thu Jan 24, 2002 at 09:2658AM +0100.11.%y, Berni <be...@kn...> wrote: > Quoting Berni... first, I come later today because at 12hrs there comes someone to repair our window, so I come after that. > > 1. Is there any reason why you set all the login data attributes in class > > Status from private to protected? > > > > 2. Don't write buggy constructors. I like proper classes. Either initialize > > ALL attributes or leave away the constructor. > > > > 3. Why the hell do we need set... () methods for login data attributes? > > > > 4. Usually I know what I'm doing (yes, I do!), at last better than you do. > > Please ask me before you hack my code and threw over every single > > paradigm I believe in. > > > > thanks. berni the 'thanks' looks a bit misplaced there, 'cause of the overall tone. And I'm not really sure if you knew exactly what you did, there where some typos, and when I read something like 'this.port = this.port' then I ask me what hte hack did a good coder like you mean? > Now, little bit more constructive: > > Preferences is created as soon as the application gets started. Status on > the other hand is always created for a login session. This is something > different, because it should be possible to use jayshare even when you are > offline (to set up the export list or to modify the download queue, both > needs presence of the preferences, but not of status). > > That means: Preferences could use Status, but does not derive from it. It > could send login data to the Status instance as soon as it is to be created. Well, i've thought about that and saw that preferences and status had nearly the same fields, the same methods and the same intention (at least partially). > Another major difference: > Preferences has to be persistent, Status is transient. I don't think it is a > good idea to derive a persistent from a transient class, however, I'd love > to get your arguments ... Ok, I see. That is an argument. But can't Preferences be persistent when Status is not? I see that all this set-methods belong to Prefeernces and not status, but I don't see why the fields have to be private instead of protected. if they were protected, we could save a few loc and all the hickhack for making preferences aware of status and so on. > cu (i hope today), berni > -- Lukas |
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-01-24 09:26:38
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Quoting Berni... > 1. Is there any reason why you set all the login data attributes in class > Status from private to protected? > > 2. Don't write buggy constructors. I like proper classes. Either initialize > ALL attributes or leave away the constructor. > > 3. Why the hell do we need set... () methods for login data attributes? > > 4. Usually I know what I'm doing (yes, I do!), at last better than you do. > Please ask me before you hack my code and threw over every single > paradigm I believe in. > > thanks. berni Now, little bit more constructive: Preferences is created as soon as the application gets started. Status on the other hand is always created for a login session. This is something different, because it should be possible to use jayshare even when you are offline (to set up the export list or to modify the download queue, both needs presence of the preferences, but not of status). That means: Preferences could use Status, but does not derive from it. It could send login data to the Status instance as soon as it is to be created. Another major difference: Preferences has to be persistent, Status is transient. I don't think it is a good idea to derive a persistent from a transient class, however, I'd love to get your arguments ... cu (i hope today), berni |
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-01-24 08:53:09
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1. Is there any reason why you set all the login data attributes in class Status from private to protected? 2. Don't write buggy constructors. I like proper classes. Either initialize ALL attributes or leave away the constructor. 3. Why the hell do we need set... () methods for login data attributes? 4. Usually I know what I'm doing (yes, I do!), at last better than you do. Please ask me before you hack my code and threw over every single paradigm I believe in. thanks. berni |
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-01-22 10:33:49
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Hey, where are you? It's 11h CET and none of you is here. Okay, following: I get a new file list from user "crypted_jid" and like to check it into the list of file lists. How do I know that the list was sent by "crypted_jid" (anybody (spoken DMCA) could send a file list with id="crypted_jid")? hope 2 cu, berni |
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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-01-21 09:03:38
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Quoting Philippe Raxhon...
> What are you going to do when you''ll be done? Are you going to maintain
> and improve the project?
depends on our time. i just started another project which i have to do
for school first, this needs more priority in future. but i hope that
i'll also be able to continue my work on jayshare.
> I'm personnaly interested by jayshare because I wanted to write a tool
> to sync my files between my computers. But knowing my java skills are
> not so great, I will more try to hack your code. It should be quite
> easy, you are doing the most difficult parts.
that's great. r-syncing files would be a very nice extension for jayshare.
bye for now. i've to catch the bus :-)
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From: Philippe R. <ra...@ea...> - 2002-01-20 22:07:09
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I will be patient thus. I think your deadline is soon anyway. What are you going to do when you''ll be done? Are you going to maintain and improve the project? I'm personnaly interested by jayshare because I wanted to write a tool to sync my files between my computers. But knowing my java skills are not so great, I will more try to hack your code. It should be quite easy, you are doing the most difficult parts. Philippe Lukas Kolbe wrote: >On Sam Jan 19, 2002 at 11:5852 +0100.95., Philippe Raxhon <ra...@ea...> wrote: > >>I have to say I am very impressed by the work already done, and soo quickly! >> >>The latest CVS (19jan02) doesn't compile. Are you interested by reports >>on the CVS state and fixes? >> > >Well, the latest doesn't compile because I had to go to work and just wanted >to checkin what I've done so far. I think report's about compiling failures >aren't needed, in that small codebase we will likely find that out >ourselves. Bugreports you may file, allthough development goes relatively >fast and it will likely be fixed a bit later. > >But it's a very good thing to get such a feedback, I can tell you :) > |
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From: Lukas K. <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-20 11:51:08
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On Sam Jan 19, 2002 at 11:5852 +0100.95., Philippe Raxhon <ra...@ea...> wrote: > I have to say I am very impressed by the work already done, and soo quickly! > > The latest CVS (19jan02) doesn't compile. Are you interested by reports > on the CVS state and fixes? Well, the latest doesn't compile because I had to go to work and just wanted to checkin what I've done so far. I think report's about compiling failures aren't needed, in that small codebase we will likely find that out ourselves. Bugreports you may file, allthough development goes relatively fast and it will likely be fixed a bit later. But it's a very good thing to get such a feedback, I can tell you :) -- bye Lukas |
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From: Philippe R. <ra...@ea...> - 2002-01-19 10:58:44
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I have to say I am very impressed by the work already done, and soo quickly! The latest CVS (19jan02) doesn't compile. Are you interested by reports on the CVS state and fixes? Philippe Lucky wrote: >On Fri Jan 18, 2002 at 12:4305AM +0100.15.%y, Philippe Raxhon <ra...@ea...> wrote: > >>Hi guys, >> >>No you are not alone. >> > >Oh, thats good! Thats really good :) > > >>I have compiled the app (and it was not easy, you should provide a >>build.xml and more docs for guys like me ;-). >> > >Yes, thats a thing we have to work on, but _after_ we put all the pieces >together. > >>I know don't have a clue how to connect. What are the settings for the >>server, conference, ...? >> > >Yes, you say it: We have a simple UI, a jayshare-extension to jabberbeans, >edeka is working on parsing the filelist into an array for viewing in the >search-tab, and i'm working on the search-tab. > >I'm sorry that I've to tell you that all this stuff is currently not working >in a whole, so you can't use it yet :) >But we're working on putting all this stuff together, our deadline is next >friday. > > >>Keep on the good work >> > >Thank you for testing! > > >>Thanks >> >>Philippe Raxhon >> > >-- >Lukas > >_______________________________________________ >jayshare-development mailing list >jay...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jayshare-development > > |
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From: Lucky <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-18 10:49:32
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On Fri Jan 18, 2002 at 12:4305AM +0100.15.%y, Philippe Raxhon <ra...@ea...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > No you are not alone. Oh, thats good! Thats really good :) > I have compiled the app (and it was not easy, you should provide a > build.xml and more docs for guys like me ;-). Yes, thats a thing we have to work on, but _after_ we put all the pieces together. > I know don't have a clue how to connect. What are the settings for the > server, conference, ...? Yes, you say it: We have a simple UI, a jayshare-extension to jabberbeans, edeka is working on parsing the filelist into an array for viewing in the search-tab, and i'm working on the search-tab. I'm sorry that I've to tell you that all this stuff is currently not working in a whole, so you can't use it yet :) But we're working on putting all this stuff together, our deadline is next friday. > Keep on the good work Thank you for testing! > Thanks > > Philippe Raxhon > -- Lukas |
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From: Philippe R. <ra...@ea...> - 2002-01-17 23:42:56
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Hi guys, No you are not alone. I have compiled the app (and it was not easy, you should provide a build.xml and more docs for guys like me ;-). I know don't have a clue how to connect. What are the settings for the server, conference, ...? Keep on the good work Thanks Philippe Raxhon Lukas Kolbe wrote: >Hello everbody out there (approx. 3 other persons than me :)! > >Edeka and I today made our first (more or less successfull) attempt on creating >a swing-based userinterface. It grows :)! >It's in cvs at jayshare/jayshare/src/de/knup/jedi/jayshare/ui/, so check it >out :) > >Well, no doc at all for that. > |
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From: Lukas K. <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-15 21:02:41
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Hello everbody out there (approx. 3 other persons than me :)! Edeka and I today made our first (more or less successfull) attempt on creating a swing-based userinterface. It grows :)! It's in cvs at jayshare/jayshare/src/de/knup/jedi/jayshare/ui/, so check it out :) Well, no doc at all for that. -- bye Lukas |
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From: Berni <be...@kn...> - 2002-01-10 19:20:25
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Perhaps we should use CVS as a mailing list server :) ciao, 3crn! |
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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-01-10 11:13:39
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Quoting Lucky...
> Ok, I'll go have a look about conference rooms. Why do whe need Presence?
because the "users" in the conference-room need to know if they can
ask somebody for a filelist or not, e.g. or if we could get files from
them, etc.
> > > Don't have to write that much, it's late now. Most of the time today i spent
> > > installing jabberd at home,
> > and does it work ?
> Yea, I found a .deb at jabber org. the only problem: it installs in /opt!
> What a shame!
try the sources !
an config-example you may find on knup:/data/ede/jedi/jayshare_jabber_server
but you should change the port back to 5222.
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From: Lucky <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-10 09:42:07
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On Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 01:0213AM +0100.13.%y, phi...@mr... <phi...@mr...> wrote: > FYI, there's a project that started a jabber client in java. It's not > maintained anymore, and never reached the pre-beta stage, but it's using > JabberBeans: > see http://jackal.sourceforge.net Thank you, it may help us. I think we'll have a look at this, but we have to decide what we use very soon when we want to get a little working jayshare around January, 31. > Philippe Raxhon > ra...@in... > -- Lukas |
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From: Lucky <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-10 09:39:25
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On Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 12:0823AM +0100.12.%y, EdE <ed...@kn...> wrote:
> Quoting Lukas Kolbe...
>
> i think presence will be needed by jayshare. furthermore we
> should figure out if the beans are currently able to connect
> to a conference room, but that ain't be that difficult to
> change.
Ok, I'll go have a look about conference rooms. Why do whe need Presence?
> > Don't have to write that much, it's late now. Most of the time today i spent
> > installing jabberd at home,
>
> and does it work ?
Yea, I found a .deb at jabber org. the only problem: it installs in /opt!
What a shame!
> --
> :: EdE { Jabber-ID: ed...@kn... | Website: http://people.knup.de/~ede/ }
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From: <phi...@mr...> - 2002-01-10 00:01:18
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FYI, there's a project that started a jabber client in java. It's not maintained anymore, and never reached the pre-beta stage, but it's using JabberBeans: see http://jackal.sourceforge.net Philippe Raxhon ra...@in... EdE wrote: Quoting Lukas Kolbe... -- snip -- - Finish implementing missing pieces of the jabberbeans API o Presence o Existing Extensions (standard jabber:x:* namespace) -- snap -- I don't know whether that's something we have to rely on (say: implement in jabberbeans) or not, I don't hope so. i think presence will be needed by jayshare. furthermore we should figure out if the beans are currently able to connect to a conference room, but that ain't be that difficult to change. Don't have to write that much, it's late now. Most of the time today i spent installing jabberd at home, and does it work ? |
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From: EdE <ed...@kn...> - 2002-01-09 23:08:29
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Quoting Lukas Kolbe...
> -- snip --
> - Finish implementing missing pieces of the jabberbeans API
> o Presence
> o Existing Extensions (standard jabber:x:* namespace)
> -- snap --
> I don't know whether that's something we have to rely on (say: implement in
> jabberbeans) or not, I don't hope so.
i think presence will be needed by jayshare. furthermore we
should figure out if the beans are currently able to connect
to a conference room, but that ain't be that difficult to
change.
> Don't have to write that much, it's late now. Most of the time today i spent
> installing jabberd at home,
and does it work ?
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From: Lukas K. <lu...@kn...> - 2002-01-09 22:29:46
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Hi All! Today I imported JabberBeans into cvs (module resources; 'cvs co resources'). While figuring out how jabberbeans works, I read the following in the TODO: -- snip -- - Finish implementing missing pieces of the jabberbeans API o Presence o Existing Extensions (standard jabber:x:* namespace) -- snap -- I don't know whether that's something we have to rely on (say: implement in jabberbeans) or not, I don't hope so. Beside that, jabberbeans seems to be exactly what we need for the jabber-part of jayshare, and it's really not so hard to use. Don't have to write that much, it's late now. Most of the time today i spent installing jabberd at home, getting jsse (needed for jabberbeans) to work and such things. -- bye Lukas |
