[Jaws-project-developers] Re: Jaws-project-developers digest, Vol 1 #171 - 6 msgs
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[Jaws-project-developers] Re: Jaws-project-developers digest, Vol 1 #171 - 6 msgs
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From: Wieland E. K. [KErnelMAster] <ker...@un...> - 2005-01-14 05:18:31
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jaw...@li... wrote: >Send Jaws-project-developers mailing list submissions to > jaw...@li... > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jaws-project-developers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jaw...@li... > >You can reach the person managing the list at > jaw...@li... > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Jaws-project-developers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: More spam ideas (DrSlump) > 2. Re: More spam ideas (Francisco Garcia) > 3. Re: Admin Users mockup (Francisco Garcia) > 4. Re: More spam ideas (Jon Wood) > 5. Re: Jaws Upgrade guide (Jorge A Gallegos) > 6. Re: Admin Users mockup (Pablo Fischer) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:55:29 +0100 >From: DrSlump <dr...@dr...> >To: jaw...@li... >Subject: Re: [Jaws-project-developers] More spam ideas > >Jon Wood wrote: > > =20 > >>>Even when a post is considered spam the submitter should have the chan= ce=20 >>>to prove the system wrong. To acomplish this, in the case a comment is= =20 >>>considered as spam the submitter is presented with a turing test to=20 >>>prove he is a human :) >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>Just because someone can pass a Turing test doesn't mean they aren't a >>spammer. >> >>According to the sites I was reading a large number of spammers actuall= y >>seem to be doing it by hand, since they hit less common blogging tools >>(such as Jaws I guess), which automated tools are likely to be >>unavailable for. >> >>Jon >>=20 >> >> =20 >> >Sure, you're right. >I guess it gets much more difficult to fight people posting spam by hand. >However, if there is someone adding spam, then he/she should read the=20 >page, so what about adding showing a visible warning on the page=20 >explaining that search engine won't parse the comments? > >Showing the comments in a separate page, protecting it from search=20 >engines by parsing the request's headers and with the robots.txt file. >This has the drawback that the comments won't show in the same page,=20 >although they could be included with JS remote calls or a simple iframe. > >ciao, >ivan > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:54:07 -0600 >From: Francisco Garcia <fco...@gm...> >Reply-To: Francisco Garcia <fco...@gm...> >To: Jaw...@li... >Subject: [Jaws-project-developers] Re: More spam ideas > >Thats called Turing Test and is also a good idea, but only works with >automated post. At this moment I have no news about some software that >automatically submit spam messages to jaws powered sites, but in short >time, when Jaws drive more than one millIon sites, then maybe. ;-) > > >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:24:53 -0700, Leonel Nunez <ln...@en...>= wrote: > > =20 > >>I think this can be done by placing a fuzzy image with letters or >>numbers so the user can put those letters or numbers and validating >>them on the server. >> >>that's what I'm implementing on what ion calls leonel's propietary >>software >> >>just my snoopy 2 cents. >> >>leonel >> =20 >> > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:16:31 -0600 >From: Francisco Garcia <fco...@gm...> >Reply-To: Francisco Garcia <fco...@gm...> >To: jaw...@li... >Subject: Re: [Jaws-project-developers] Admin Users mockup > >It's clean, simple and functional. Thumbs up. >Perhaps indent a little bit the gadget task to emphasize >correspondence with the gadgets. > >Oye, me gustar=3DEDa que avisaras a la lista antes de liberar la siguien= te >versi=3DF3n, para darle una revisada a la ortograf=3DEDa en las traducci= ones >al espa=3DF1ol y darle una revisada general al asunto. > >Suerte chavo. > >-jfgarcia. > >On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:09:01 +1700, Jonathan Hernandez ><tri...@gm...> wrote: > =20 > >>Hello, >>=3D20 >>This night I was working in the new user admin UI, I made a mockup >>before implement it >>=3D20 >>http://ion.gluch.org.mx/files/UsersMockup.png >>=3D20 >>I want to hear your comments and questions about it.... >>=3D20 >>-ion >> >> =20 >> > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Subject: Re: [Jaws-project-developers] More spam ideas >From: Jon Wood <jo...@je...> >To: DrSlump <dr...@dr...> >Cc: Jaws Dev <jaw...@li...> >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:04:36 +0000 > >On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 22:55 +0100, DrSlump wrote: > =20 > >>Jon Wood wrote: >> >> =20 >> >>>>Even when a post is considered spam the submitter should have the cha= nce=20 >>>>to prove the system wrong. To acomplish this, in the case a comment i= s=20 >>>>considered as spam the submitter is presented with a turing test to=20 >>>>prove he is a human :) >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>Just because someone can pass a Turing test doesn't mean they aren't a >>>spammer. >>> >>>According to the sites I was reading a large number of spammers actual= ly >>>seem to be doing it by hand, since they hit less common blogging tools >>>(such as Jaws I guess), which automated tools are likely to be >>>unavailable for. >>> >>>Jon >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>Sure, you're right. >>I guess it gets much more difficult to fight people posting spam by han= d. >>However, if there is someone adding spam, then he/she should read the=20 >>page, so what about adding showing a visible warning on the page=20 >>explaining that search engine won't parse the comments? >> >> =20 >> >This is where blacklisting the URLs being linked to comes in - once a >spammer is blacklisted by the required number of sites, that URL is >written off, and another one is needed. > >Eventually it gets to the point where they're spending more on domain >registrations than they're making from whatever product their spamming >in order to sell. > >Jon > > =20 > >>Showing the comments in a separate page, protecting it from search=20 >>engines by parsing the request's headers and with the robots.txt file. >>This has the drawback that the comments won't show in the same page,=20 >>although they could be included with JS remote calls or a simple iframe. >> >>ciao, >>ivan >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues >>Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. >>It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt >>_______________________________________________ >>Jaws-project-developers mailing list >>Jaw...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jaws-project-developers >> =20 >> > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:19:40 -0500 >From: Jorge A Gallegos <gal...@gm...> >Reply-To: Jorge A Gallegos <gal...@gm...> >To: Pablo Fischer <pa...@pa...> >Subject: Re: [Jaws-project-developers] Jaws Upgrade guide >Cc: jaw...@li... > >that's what I meant with "freeze", no new features, only polishing >what we already have. > > >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:47:10 -0600, Pablo Fischer <pa...@pa...> w= rote: > =20 > >>Hello, >> >> =20 >> >>>>jaws coding "freeze"? you know, that phase when nothing happens but >>>>testing and bug squashing.... >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>This is Jaws :P They'll probably be frantic feature additions right up >>>until when the tarball gets rolled! >>> >>>On a more serious note, we probably do need to set a freeze date. >>> =20 >>> >>I'm totally agree with Jon, Jaws doesn't needs a 'freeze' date. However= , >>I think we should do a pseudo-freeze. >> >>What I mean? Lets stop building new gadgets, fix all the bugs we have >>opened and close those ones that are not so important (NOT-TO-FIX), >>finish the new features (translation, acl admin) and finish all the >>gadgets that are unfinished... then.. test it in a week, we have people >>that would like to test it (we would like testers, not users for this >>task) >> >>I think that if we continue developing new gadgets and new features (ne= w >>ones, not ideas we are already developing) we will not finish mvc befor= e >>march. And I think it will be a good idea to release it. >> >>See ya! >> >>Pablo >>-- >>Pablo Fischer Sandoval (pablo [arroba/at] pablo.com.mx) >>Cel: (044-55) 2689-6351 >>Fingerprint: 5973 0F10 543F 54AE 1E41 EC81 0840 A10A 74A4 E5C0 >>http://www.pablo.com.mx >>http://www.debianmexico.org >> >> >> >> =20 >> > > > =20 > Yo traduzco al alem=E1n...... se usar=E1n archivos PO ???? |
