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noirdesir
2007-07-13
2013-04-16
  • noirdesir

    noirdesir - 2007-07-13

    For a couple of weeks (or months?) now, Camino (1.5) and Firefox (2.0.0.4) no longer recognize the plug-in. Even basic pages show 'Click here to get plugin' and broken link/plugin symbol (Camino) or simply omit any content created by Java.

    http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
    in Firefox states "Java Runtime Environment is not working on your system", Camino shows the broken plugin symbol.

    The packages of both Camino and Firefox contain the plug-in, I've just installed 0.9.6.3, deleted the ones in the browser packages, touched the MRJ, restarted the browsers, no change.

    Java works fine in Safari. It reads: 1.5.0_07 on the Java test page. MBP Core 2 Duo, 10.4.10 (all latest patches).

    Any ideas.

     
    • David Lentz

      David Lentz - 2007-07-13

      The plugin works fine for me, just tested it in Seamonkey and a recent NB of Camino (2007071104 (1.6a1pre)).  I'm still in a PPC environment, tho' so it's prolly not a real comparison.

      Have you rebooted lately?  Might be worth a shot.  Or have you installed the said-to-be problematic QuickTime 7.2 update?  Maybe that's hosing things up.  How about the freshness of the other browser plugins?

       
    • David Lentz

      David Lentz - 2007-07-13

      Oops, I just re-read your post, and saw that this has been going on for a while.  So QT is prolly not a factor.  My guess is that something is hosed in your system.  I would try re-installing 10.4.10, using the combo updater, and see if that cleans things up.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      I can't guess what the problem might be.

      Make sure you've installed both parts of the Java Embedding Plugin
      (JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle and MRJPlugin.plugin) in /Library/Internet
      Plug-Ins/ and that both come from the same JEP version.  Also
      double-check to make sure you've really cleared out your browser's
      Contents/MacOS/plugins directory.

      What shows up in your list of plugins when you do about:plugins?

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      One more thing -- make sure you haven't disabled Java.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      > make sure you've really cleared out your browser's
      > Contents/MacOS/plugins directory.

      Don't (of course) completely empty this directory.  Just make sure it
      doesn't contain either MRJPlugin.plugin or JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle.

       
      • noirdesir

        noirdesir - 2007-07-14

        Thanks for your suggestions. Firefox had Java disabled, enabling it fixed it there. So it seems to be a Camino problem. (I never use Firefox, only for testing purposes, I should have checked its settings properly.)

        In Camino 1.5 about:plugins shows the following:
        http://homepage.hispeed.ch/kukushka/About-Plugins.html
        What this html file does not show is broken plugin symbol highlighted here in this screenshot:
        http://homepage.hispeed.ch/kukushka/about-plugins-screenshot.png

         
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      Camino 1.5 has an "Enable plug-ins" setting.  Make sure this is
      checked -- if it isn't Java will also be disabled.

      But if your "Enable plug-ins" setting is already checked, I suspect
      the problem is a setting that's only accessible via about:config.

      A quick way to test this is to (temporarily) give Camino a "clean
      profile":

      1. Quit Camino
      2. Rename the Camino directory in ~/Library/Application Support/ (the
         Library/Application Support/Camino directory under your home
         directory) to something like Camino.bak.
      3. Start Camino.

       
      • noirdesir

        noirdesir - 2007-07-14

        "Enable Plug-ins" was checked. Creating a clean profile for Camino did not fix it. Creating a new user on the OS level fixed it. This seems as much a Camino problem as a Java plug-in problem and even more a specific conflict of my user set-up.

        Are there any other user specific Camino settings outside of the Camino folder in Application Support? Conflicts with other plugins? I've ran DiskWarrior and cleaned all possible caches with Onyx. I guess I otherwise have to use the tedious approach of moving stuff over one by one to the new user and see when (if at all) Java in Camino breaks there.

         
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      > Are there any other user specific Camino settings outside of the
      > Camino folder in Application Support?

      There are also Camino directories in ~/Library/Caches and
      ~/Library/Caches/Metadata, and there's an org.mozilla.camino.plist
      file in ~/Library/Preferences (which you can read by doing 'defaults
      org.mozilla.camino' at a Terminal prompt).  But none of these are
      likely to be causing your problem.

      > Conflicts with other plugins?

      None that I'm aware of ... though you may eventually be able to tell
      me otherwise.

      > I guess I otherwise have to use the tedious approach of moving stuff
      > over one by one to the new user and see when (if at all) Java in
      > Camino breaks there.

      I'm afraid so.  Let me know if you find anything interesting.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2007-07-14

      > 'defaults org.mozilla.camino'

      Oops, that should have been 'defaults read org.mozilla.camino'.

       

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