Menu

Sun's Java ver detect page Crashes Firefox

Help
Newbee
2005-05-22
2013-04-16
  • Newbee

    Newbee - 2005-05-22

    After installing the latest JavaEmbeddingPlugin0.9.2 and associated MRJplugin in the /Library/Internet Plugins folder and checking to see that the timestamp on MRJplugin is ok, i accesed Sun's page http://java.sun.com/j2se/index.jsp and clicked on "Do you know which Java Runtime Environment your system is running?" link to detect my plugin version using FireFox 1.0.4 using MacOSX 10.3.9 it crashed with the following message:

    Date/Time:      2005-05-22 10:19:56 -0700
    OS Version:     10.3.9 (Build 7W98)
    Report Version: 2

    Command: firefox-bin
    Path:    /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
    Version: 1.0.4 (1.0.4)
    PID:     1488
    Thread:  Unknown

    Link (dyld) error:

    dyld: /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin file is not a regular file: /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/MRJPlugin.plugin (can't possibly be a library)

     
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-22

      I'm unable to reproduce what you report ... but on Tiger (OS X 10.4)
      I'm seeing a different (and probably totally unrelated) crash.

      I assume that the "Do you know which JRE ..." link you're talking
      about (which I also found) is the following:

      http://java.sun.com/j2se/jre_check/index.jsp

      The crash log you included has (unfortunately) no useful information.
      Do you sometimes get a longer (and more informative) one?  Does
      something similar happen with Camino or Mozilla?

      I wonder if your problem is Java-related at all.  It might have
      something to do with your Firefox settings, or the extensions you've
      installed.  Here's a way to test this:  Create a new account on your
      OS X box and log in to it.  Then install a freshly downloaded copy of
      Firefox 1.0.4, run that, and go to the above-mentioned link.  Does
      your problem still happen?

      (Once I understand the Tiger problem a bit better, I'll open my own
      bug report on it in the Java Embedding Plugin's Bugs tracker.)

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-22

      I also noticed the following Console messages:

      /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin: can't map file: /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/AdobePDFViewer.plugin ((os/kern) invalid argument)

      /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin: can't map file: /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/MRJPlugin.plugin ((os/kern) invalid argument)

      ### MRJPlugin:  getPluginBundle() here. ###

      ### MRJPlugin:  CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier() succeeded. ###

      ### MRJPlugin:  CFURLGetFSRef() succeeded. ###

      Error [48] in bind() call!

      err:: Address already in use

      Socket transport failed to init.

      Transport dt_socket failed to initialize, rc = -1.

      2005-05-22 10:19:56.507 firefox-bin[1488] FATAL ERROR in native method: No transports initialized

      2005-05-22 10:19:56.507 firefox-bin[1488]

      May 22 10:19:56 crashdump: Started writing crash report to: ../Library/Logs/CrashReporter/firefox-bin.crash.log

      May 22 10:19:56 crashdump: Finished writing crash report to: ../Library/Logs/CrashReporter/firefox-bin.crash.log

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-22

      Interesting!

      The "can't map file" errors are benign and can be ignored (for more
      info see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200945\).

      The other errors (starting with "Error [48] in bind() call") are all
      Java networking errors!

      I've never seen these myself, and currently have no idea why they're
      happening.  But, using "Transport dt_socket failed to initialize" as a
      search criterion (keep the quotes), I found some interesting results
      on Google, particularly the following:

      http://www.javadesktop.org/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=11135&tstart=75

      Do you have some kind of special Java extensions installed?

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-22

      Oh and by the way, be sure to try out my suggestion (above) to test a
      copy of Firefox with no extensions and plain-vanilla settings.

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-22

      By looking at the port number used in the above link 113 and the fact that I was running Ircle 3.1.2 while accesing the Sun's page makes me wonder if Ircle uses any java extensions. It is very possibel that i do. I have also installed some prety sofisticated third party plugins for QuickTime such as a Axel.

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-22

      Please excuse my ignorance. I was thinking in plugins. I do have many extensions and live bookmarks in Firefox. Among the extensions are chatzilla 0.9.68.3, Feedview 0.9.7, Sage 1.3.3, Dictionary Search 0.9.2, SpoofStick 1.05, BandWidth Tester 0.4.1, Amazon Feed Injector 1.1

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      I tried your suggestion, a plain vanilla installation unistalling all the extensions but same results. However, there was a *** nsInstallLogReader::_parseLine - failed to deregister chrome message in the console. I tried a separate copy of Firefox but it will use my same extensions -which i like, so I had to uninstall Firefox and reinstall Firefox. Sorry for the multiple listings. Just was not sure were this post belonged. Also, I could not edit or delete the posts.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      So the problem is now fixed?

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      Thanks for the link above. It helped fix the networking problem. The arbitrary socket i chose for the debugin transport was grabed by an aplication I installed later. So I changed the socket. I should have read your link more carefully. Anyways, here is a dump of the crash:
      Date/Time:      2005-05-23 00:53:12 -0700
      OS Version:     10.3.9 (Build 7W98)
      Report Version: 2

      Command: firefox-bin
      Path:    /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
      Version: 1.0.4 (1.0.4)
      PID:     2260
      Thread:  0

      Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
      Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

      Thread 0 Crashed:
      0   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f792b0 JVM_GetCPMethodModifiers + 0x890
      1   ???                        0x03ce4e1c +[AppletView maybeCreateJavaVM:extraOptsNum:vmPtr:envPtr:initAWT:] + 0x344 (AppletView.m:781)
      2   ???                        0x03cd3a90 JEPCreateJavaVM + 0x11c (Controller.m:4122)
      3   com.netscape.MRJPlugin     0x01db0b8c JEPCreateJavaVM + 0x68 (JavaEmbeddingPlugin.cpp:117)
      4   com.netscape.MRJPlugin     0x01daf0e4 MRJSession::open(char const*) + 0x110 (MRJSession.cpp:977)
      5   com.netscape.MRJPlugin     0x01db8aa4 MRJPlugin::StartupJVM() + 0x148 (MRJPlugin.cpp:465)
      6   com.netscape.MRJPlugin     0x01db81b0 MRJPlugin::CreateInstance(nsISupports*, nsID const&, void**) + 0x2c (MRJPlugin.cpp:318)
      7   org.mozilla.firefox        0x001ae8a4 nsPluginHostImpl::TrySetUpPluginInstance(char const*, nsIURI*, nsIPluginInstanceOwner*) + 0x370
      8   org.mozilla.firefox        0x001ae500 nsPluginHostImpl::SetUpPluginInstance(char const*, nsIURI*, nsIPluginInstanceOwner*) + 0x12c
      9   org.mozilla.firefox        0x001ad60c nsPluginHostImpl::InstantiateEmbededPlugin(char const*, nsIURI*, nsIPluginInstanceOwner*) + 0x4d4
      10  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0045a258 nsObjectFrame::InstantiatePlugin(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, nsIPluginHost*, char const*, nsIURI*) + 0x5fc
      11  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00459580 nsObjectFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x85c
      12  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004e0bac nsLineLayout::ReflowFrame(nsIFrame*, unsigned int&, nsHTMLReflowMetrics*, int&) + 0x434
      13  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043f62c nsBlockFrame::ReflowInlineFrame(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineLayout&, nsLineList_iterator, nsIFrame*, unsigned char*) + 0x78
      14  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043f3c8 nsBlockFrame::DoReflowInlineFrames(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineLayout&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, unsigned char*, int, int) + 0x1a4
      15  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043f19c nsBlockFrame::DoReflowInlineFramesAuto(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, unsigned char*, int, int) + 0x88
      16  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043f020 nsBlockFrame::ReflowInlineFrames(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, int, int) + 0x8c
      17  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043ddcc nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, int) + 0x3f0
      18  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043d510 nsBlockFrame::ReflowDirtyLines(nsBlockReflowState&) + 0x1e8
      19  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043bf94 nsBlockFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x3f0
      20  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      21  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0048bda4 nsTableCellFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x40c
      22  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      23  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00476b10 nsTableRowFrame::ReflowChildren(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, nsTableFrame&, unsigned int&, int) + 0x5ec
      24  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004779b4 nsTableRowFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0xac
      25  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      26  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004b3e9c nsTableRowGroupFrame::ReflowChildren(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsRowGroupReflowState&, unsigned int&, nsTableRowFrame*, int, nsTableRowFrame**, int*) + 0x2d4
      27  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004b5a7c nsTableRowGroupFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x118
      28  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      29  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00449f60 nsTableFrame::ReflowChildren(nsIPresContext*, nsTableReflowState&, int, int, unsigned int&, nsIFrame*&, nsRect&, int*) + 0x304
      30  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00446d10 nsTableFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x1ec
      31  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      32  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00490c94 nsTableOuterFrame::OuterReflowChild(nsIPresContext*, nsIFrame*, nsHTMLReflowState const&, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, int, nsSize&, nsMargin&, nsMargin&, nsMargin&, nsReflowReason, unsigned int&, int*) + 0x2c0
      33  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004926c4 nsTableOuterFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x318
      34  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004e9af4 nsBlockReflowContext::ReflowBlock(nsRect const&, int, nsCollapsingMargin&, int, nsMargin&, nsHTMLReflowState&, unsigned int&) + 0x510
      35  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043eb88 nsBlockFrame::ReflowBlockFrame(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*) + 0x2d0
      36  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043da78 nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, int) + 0x9c
      37  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043d510 nsBlockFrame::ReflowDirtyLines(nsBlockReflowState&) + 0x1e8
      38  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043bf94 nsBlockFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x3f0
      39  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004e9af4 nsBlockReflowContext::ReflowBlock(nsRect const&, int, nsCollapsingMargin&, int, nsMargin&, nsHTMLReflowState&, unsigned int&) + 0x510
      40  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043eb88 nsBlockFrame::ReflowBlockFrame(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*) + 0x2d0
      41  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043da78 nsBlockFrame::ReflowLine(nsBlockReflowState&, nsLineList_iterator, int*, int) + 0x9c
      42  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043d510 nsBlockFrame::ReflowDirtyLines(nsBlockReflowState&) + 0x1e8
      43  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0043bf94 nsBlockFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x3f0
      44  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      45  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00453b4c CanvasFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x18c
      46  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004df2fc nsBoxToBlockAdaptor::Reflow(nsBoxLayoutState&, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&, int, int, int, int, int) + 0x390
      47  org.mozilla.firefox        0x004ded90 nsBoxToBlockAdaptor::DoLayout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x13c
      48  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00347150 nsBox::Layout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x40
      49  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00488c04 nsScrollBoxFrame::DoLayout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x1f0
      50  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00347150 nsBox::Layout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x40
      51  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00420bd0 nsContainerBox::LayoutChildAt(nsBoxLayoutState&, nsIBox*, nsRect const&) + 0x10c
      52  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00485d60 nsGfxScrollFrameInner::Layout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x190
      53  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00485ab8 nsGfxScrollFrame::DoLayout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x44
      54  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00347150 nsBox::Layout(nsBoxLayoutState&) + 0x40
      55  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00424290 nsBoxFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x21c
      56  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00484fc4 nsGfxScrollFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x38
      57  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00372b24 nsContainerFrame::ReflowChild(nsIFrame*, nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, int, int, unsigned int, unsigned int&) + 0x98
      58  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00482fdc ViewportFrame::Reflow(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsHTMLReflowState const&, unsigned int&) + 0x12c
      59  org.mozilla.firefox        0x00201cbc IncrementalReflow::Dispatch(nsIPresContext*, nsHTMLReflowMetrics&, nsSize const&, nsIRenderingContext&) + 0x134
      60  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0020c8a8 PresShell::ProcessReflowCommands(int) + 0x200
      61  org.mozilla.firefox        0x009479dc 0x1000 + 0x9469dc
      62  libxpcom.dylib             0x07041d1c PL_HandleEvent + 0x24
      63  libxpcom.dylib             0x07041c40 PL_ProcessPendingEvents + 0x80
      64  libxpcom.dylib             0x07042124 PL_IsQueueNative + 0x88
      65  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92881fa0 DispatchEventToHandlers + 0x150
      66  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92882214 SendEventToEventTargetInternal + 0x174
      67  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92886694 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 0x28
      68  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92892d2c ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 0x2b8
      69  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x9288205c DispatchEventToHandlers + 0x20c
      70  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92882214 SendEventToEventTargetInternal + 0x174
      71  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x928946bc SendEventToEventTarget + 0x28
      72  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x928985d8 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 0x5c
      73  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x928a8718 TryEventDispatcher + 0x6c
      74  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92888d88 GetOrPeekEvent + 0x134
      75  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x92888f3c GetNextEventMatchingMask + 0xa0
      76  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x9289c9f0 WNEInternal + 0xa0
      77  com.apple.HIToolbox        0x928ad708 WaitNextEvent + 0x4c
      78  org.mozilla.firefox        0x001d5590 nsMacMessagePump::GetEvent(EventRecord&) + 0x74
      79  org.mozilla.firefox        0x001d5474 nsMacMessagePump::DoMessagePump() + 0x30
      80  org.mozilla.firefox        0x001bc98c nsAppShell::Run() + 0x38
      81  org.mozilla.firefox        0x007ef518 xre_main(int, char**, nsXREAppData const*) + 0xac0
      82  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0000f54c start + 0x1b0
      83  org.mozilla.firefox        0x0000f3cc start + 0x30

      Thread 1:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x9000b42c select + 0xc
      1   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301f7d8 poll + 0x188
      2   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301c024 PR_OpenDir + 0x3b0
      3   org.mozilla.firefox        0x000b9894 nsSocketTransportService::Run() + 0x198
      4   libxpcom.dylib             0x070449e8 nsThread::Main(void*) + 0x38
      5   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301d46c PR_Select + 0x33c
      6   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 2:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90018e18 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x9000e9d4 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x268
      2   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301838c PR_Unlock + 0x12c
      3   libnspr4.dylib             0x030185f0 PR_WaitCondVar + 0x88
      4   libxpcom.dylib             0x070474fc TimerThread::Run() + 0x1ac
      5   libxpcom.dylib             0x070449e8 nsThread::Main(void*) + 0x38
      6   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301d46c PR_Select + 0x33c
      7   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 3:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90018e18 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x9000e9d4 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x268
      2   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301838c PR_Unlock + 0x12c
      3   libnspr4.dylib             0x030185f0 PR_WaitCondVar + 0x88
      4   org.mozilla.firefox        0x00078094 nsIOThreadPool::ThreadFunc(void*) + 0x74
      5   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301d46c PR_Select + 0x33c
      6   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 4:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90018e18 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x9000e9d4 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x268
      2   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301838c PR_Unlock + 0x12c
      3   libnspr4.dylib             0x030185f0 PR_WaitCondVar + 0x88
      4   org.mozilla.firefox        0x000c5c38 nsHostResolver::GetHostToLookup(nsHostRecord**) + 0x84
      5   org.mozilla.firefox        0x000c5f48 nsHostResolver::ThreadFunc(void*) + 0x74
      6   libnspr4.dylib             0x0301d46c PR_Select + 0x33c
      7   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 5:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x970001dc JNI_CreateJavaVM_Impl + 0x44ec
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x97000170 JNI_CreateJavaVM_Impl + 0x4480
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      5   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 6:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f28448 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x11e8
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f5b0a4 __divdi3 + 0x5094
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f70ca0 JVM_GetMethodIxModifiers + 0x4f0
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x9701848c JVM_GetInterfaceVersion + 0x17a4c
      6   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      7   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 7:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f283c8 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x1168
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f22d28 _mh_dylib_header + 0x2d28
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f2c194 __cmpdi2 + 0x1ad4
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f288a8 JVM_MonitorWait + 0x108
      6   <<00000000>>     0x0e013060 0 + 0xe013060
      7   <<00000000>>     0x0e00b130 0 + 0xe00b130
      8   <<00000000>>     0x0e00b130 0 + 0xe00b130
      9   <<00000000>>     0x0e00816c 0 + 0xe00816c
      10  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f3aff8 JVM_GetCPMethodClassNameUTF + 0xb38
      11  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f5c448 JVM_GetCPClassNameUTF + 0x998
      12  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f990a8 JVM_Close + 0x4b8
      13  libhotspot.dylib           0x96fa9970 JVM_Interrupt + 0x2e0
      14  libhotspot.dylib           0x9704e70c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xcdec
      15  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      16  libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      17  libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 8:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f283c8 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x1168
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f22d28 _mh_dylib_header + 0x2d28
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f2c194 __cmpdi2 + 0x1ad4
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f288a8 JVM_MonitorWait + 0x108
      6   <<00000000>>     0x0e013060 0 + 0xe013060
      7   <<00000000>>     0x0e00b130 0 + 0xe00b130
      8   <<00000000>>     0x0e00b040 0 + 0xe00b040
      9   <<00000000>>     0x0e00b040 0 + 0xe00b040
      10  <<00000000>>     0x0e00816c 0 + 0xe00816c
      11  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f3aff8 JVM_GetCPMethodClassNameUTF + 0xb38
      12  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f5c448 JVM_GetCPClassNameUTF + 0x998
      13  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f990a8 JVM_Close + 0x4b8
      14  libhotspot.dylib           0x96fa9970 JVM_Interrupt + 0x2e0
      15  libhotspot.dylib           0x9704e70c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xcdec
      16  libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      17  libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      18  libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 9:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90043c4c accept + 0xc
      1   libdt_socket.jnilib        0x80fe1098 0x80fe0000 + 0x1098
      2   libjdwp.jnilib             0x80ed8488 threadControl_setPopFrameProceed + 0x3b8
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x97087e64 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x46544
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      6   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 10:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f283c8 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x1168
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x97080038 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x3e718
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x97044a20 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x3100
      5   libjdwp.jnilib             0x80edab58 debugMonitorWait + 0x3c
      6   libjdwp.jnilib             0x80ecf00c eventHandler_installExternal + 0x2a4
      7   libjdwp.jnilib             0x80ed0080 unblockCommandLoop + 0x74
      8   libhotspot.dylib           0x97087e64 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x46544
      9   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      10  libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      11  libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 11:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f28448 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x11e8
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f37f60 JVM_GetCPMethodSignatureUTF + 0x1810
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f38100 JVM_GetCPMethodSignatureUTF + 0x19b0
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      6   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 12:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900147a8 semaphore_wait_trap + 0x8
      1   libhotspot.dylib           0x97054090 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x12770
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x97053374 JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0x11a54
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      5   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      Thread 13:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
      1   libSystem.B.dylib          0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
      2   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f283c8 JVM_GetClassAccessFlags + 0x1168
      3   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f5b104 __divdi3 + 0x50f4
      4   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f92510 JVM_GetFieldIxModifiers + 0xb60
      5   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f7e2bc JVM_SocketAvailable + 0x130c
      6   libhotspot.dylib           0x96f94e04 JVM_FindClassFromClass + 0xc14
      7   libhotspot.dylib           0x970f290c JVM_UnloadLibrary + 0xb0fec
      8   libSystem.B.dylib          0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

      PPC Thread State:
        srr0: 0x96f792b0 srr1: 0x0200f930                vrsave: 0x00000000
          cr: 0x22244422  xer: 0x00000001   lr: 0x9711b974  ctr: 0x9711b8b0
          r0: 0x00000000   r1: 0xbfff9f10   r2: 0x03ce4198   r3: 0x00000000
          r4: 0x00000000   r5: 0x00000000   r6: 0xa6f2e94c   r7: 0xa6f22208
          r8: 0x00000005   r9: 0x05e01034  r10: 0x00000001  r11: 0xa6f32030
         r12: 0x9711b8b0  r13: 0xbfffaed0  r14: 0x00990000  r15: 0xbfffc368
         r16: 0xbfffae30  r17: 0x00980000  r18: 0xbfffa770  r19: 0xbfffa700
         r20: 0x00990000  r21: 0xbfffa760  r22: 0xbfffa7e0  r23: 0x04c3d990
         r24: 0x05e01034  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0x00000000  r27: 0xa6f2b8d0
         r28: 0x05e00fc0  r29: 0x05c54720  r30: 0x00000004  r31: 0x9711b8d0

      Binary Images Description:
          0x1000 -   0x975fff org.mozilla.firefox 1.0.4    /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
        0xf44000 -   0xf4dfff libqfaservices.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/components/libqfaservices.dylib
        0xf90000 -   0xfb7fff talkback.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/components/talkback/talkback.dylib
      0x18ce000 -  0x18d0fff com.apple.textencoding.unicode 1.6.4    /System/Library/TextEncodings/Unicode Encodings.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Unicode Encodings
      0x1dab000 -  0x1df4fff com.netscape.MRJPlugin MRJ Plugin version 1.0-JEP-0.9.2 (1.0-JEP-0.9.2)    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/MRJPlugin.plugin/Contents/MacOS/MRJPlugin
      0x3000000 -  0x3032fff libnspr4.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libnspr4.dylib
      0x3cc4000 -  0x3cf6fff ??? Java Embedding Plugin version 0.9.2 (0.9.2)    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/JavaEmbeddingPlugin
      0x4000000 -  0x400dfff libplds4.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libplds4.dylib
      0x5000000 -  0x500efff libplc4.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libplc4.dylib
      0x5d05000 -  0x5d11fff com.apple.JavaPluginCocoa 2.0.0    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaPluginCocoa.bundle/Contents/MacOS/JavaPluginCocoa
      0x6000000 -  0x6068fff libmozjs.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libmozjs.dylib
      0x7000000 -  0x7083fff libxpcom.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libxpcom.dylib
      0x8000000 -  0x801afff libssl3.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libssl3.dylib
      0x9000000 -  0x905dfff libnss3.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libnss3.dylib
      0xa000000 -  0xa01dfff libsmime3.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libsmime3.dylib
      0xb000000 -  0xb079fff libsoftokn3.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libsoftokn3.dylib
      0xc000000 -  0xc019fff libxpcom_compat.dylib     /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libxpcom_compat.dylib
      0x80d40000 - 0x80d4bfff libzip.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libzip.jnilib
      0x80df0000 - 0x80df0fff libkeychain.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libkeychain.jnilib
      0x80ec0000 - 0x80edefff libjdwp.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libjdwp.jnilib
      0x80fd0000 - 0x80fd4fff libfontmanager.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libfontmanager.jnilib
      0x80fe0000 - 0x80fe1fff libdt_socket.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libdt_socket.jnilib
      0x8ae86000 - 0x8af6cfff libawt.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Libraries/libawt.jnilib
      0x8b2d6000 - 0x8b3b4fff libxml2.2.dylib     /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
      0x8cbce000 - 0x8cbf7fff libxslt.1.dylib     /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
      0x8f020000 - 0x8f02efff com.apple.JavaEmbedding 1.0.4    /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaEmbedding.framework/Versions/A/JavaEmbedding
      0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4ffff dyld     /usr/lib/dyld
      0x90000000 - 0x9014ffff libSystem.B.dylib     /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
      0x901c0000 - 0x9026dfff com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.3.7 (299.35)    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
      0x902b0000 - 0x90529fff com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 10.3.7    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
      0x905a0000 - 0x90610fff com.apple.framework.IOKit 1.3.6 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
      0x90640000 - 0x906c8fff com.apple.CoreServices.OSServices 3.0.1    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
      0x9071d000 - 0x90731fff libcups.2.dylib     /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
      0x90737000 - 0x9079efff com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 2.1.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio
      0x90810000 - 0x90810fff com.apple.ApplicationServices 1.0 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices
      0x90860000 - 0x908cffff libobjc.A.dylib     /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
      0x90940000 - 0x909b3fff com.apple.DesktopServices 1.2.5    /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv
      0x909f0000 - 0x909fbfff com.apple.securityhi 1.2 (90)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI
      0x90a03000 - 0x90a0ffff com.apple.help 1.0.1    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help
      0x90a20000 - 0x90b7bfff com.apple.Foundation 6.3.7 (500.59)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
      0x90d50000 - 0x90d6bfff com.apple.SystemConfiguration 1.7.1 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration
      0x90d7c000 - 0x90d8ffff com.apple.speech.synthesis.framework 3.2    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis
      0x90e13000 - 0x90e4bfff com.apple.LaunchServices 10.3.5 (98.4)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
      0x90ec0000 - 0x90ec0fff com.apple.Cocoa 6.3 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
      0x910e0000 - 0x91133fff com.apple.bom 1.2.5 (63.2)    /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Bom.framework/Versions/A/Bom
      0x91141000 - 0x91141fff com.apple.Carbon 10.3 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon
      0x91143000 - 0x91143fff com.apple.CoreServices 10.3 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
      0x91320000 - 0x91337fff com.apple.LangAnalysis 1.5.4    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis
      0x913a0000 - 0x9145ffff ColorSync     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
      0x914ad000 - 0x914c0fff libRIP.A.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRIP.A.dylib
      0x914e0000 - 0x91549fff com.apple.htmlrendering 1.1.2    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
      0x915e0000 - 0x91699fff com.apple.QD 3.4.67 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD
      0x916f0000 - 0x91728fff com.apple.AE 1.4    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
      0x91760000 - 0x917f3fff com.apple.print.framework.PrintCore 3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore
      0x91890000 - 0x918aafff com.apple.openscripting 1.2.1 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
      0x918d0000 - 0x918e0fff com.apple.ImageCapture 2.1.5    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture
      0x91900000 - 0x9190dfff com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.1 (1.0)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
      0x91970000 - 0x919befff com.apple.print.framework.Print 3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
      0x91a40000 - 0x91ab3fff com.apple.NavigationServices 3.3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices
      0x91afb000 - 0x91b18fff com.apple.audio.SoundManager 3.9    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
      0x91b30000 - 0x91b44fff libCGATS.A.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGATS.A.dylib
      0x91b60000 - 0x91b6bfff libCSync.A.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCSync.A.dylib
      0x91b90000 - 0x91baafff libPDFRIP.A.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPDFRIP.A.dylib
      0x91bd0000 - 0x91bdffff libPSRIP.A.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPSRIP.A.dylib
      0x920f0000 - 0x92116fff com.apple.FindByContent 1.4 (1.2)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FindByContent.framework/Versions/A/FindByContent
      0x92170000 - 0x92357fff com.apple.security 2.4 (179)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
      0x927f0000 - 0x92827fff com.apple.CFNetwork 1.2.2 (7)    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
      0x92880000 - 0x92c05fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.3.6 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
      0x92de0000 - 0x92e30fff com.apple.HIServices 1.4.1 (0.0.1d1)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices
      0x92e70000 - 0x9336ffff com.apple.AppKit 6.3.8 (743.39)    /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
      0x93680000 - 0x93958fff com.apple.CoreGraphics 1.203.30 (???)    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics
      0x93a50000 - 0x93a54fff libmathCommon.A.dylib     /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
      0x93a56000 - 0x93a66fff com.apple.vecLib 3.0.3 (vecLib 3.0.3)    /System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
      0x94120000 - 0x94138fff com.apple.WebServices 1.1.1 (1.1.0)    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebServicesCore.framework/Versions/A/WebServicesCore
      0x94170000 - 0x94171fff com.apple.JavaCarbonSupport 1.1    /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/JavaCarbonSupport.framework/Versions/A/JavaCarbonSupport
      0x94192000 - 0x9419bfff com.apple.DiskArbitration 2.0.5    /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/Versions/A/DiskArbitration
      0x941f8000 - 0x94201fff libz.1.dylib     /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
      0x94204000 - 0x9420cfff libbsm.dylib     /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib
      0x946e0000 - 0x9473ffff com.apple.SearchKit 1.0.2    /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit
      0x9477d000 - 0x9478dfff com.apple.speech.recognition.framework 3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition
      0x947b0000 - 0x947b1fff com.apple.securityfoundation 1.0 (6)    /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Versions/A/SecurityFoundation
      0x94800000 - 0x9488cfff com.apple.ink.framework 101.1.4 (55.12)    /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink
      0x948b0000 - 0x948e1fff com.apple.securityinterface 1.0 (39)    /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityInterface.framework/Versions/A/SecurityInterface
      0x94bab000 - 0x94bc5fff libresolv.9.dylib     /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib
      0x94ea0000 - 0x954a6fff libBLAS.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
      0x95500000 - 0x957d0fff libLAPACK.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
      0x958e0000 - 0x95900fff libvMisc.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvMisc.dylib
      0x95a08000 - 0x95ac0fff com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 1.3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
      0x95b50000 - 0x95c32fff libicucore.A.dylib     /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
      0x95f30000 - 0x9601efff libiconv.2.dylib     /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
      0x96092000 - 0x96128fff com.apple.WebKit 312.1    /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit
      0x9618a000 - 0x9618efff com.apple.JavaVM 1.4.2 (1.4.2 Release 1)    /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM
      0x961b0000 - 0x96292fff com.apple.JavaScriptCore 312    /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/JavaScriptCore.framework/Versions/A/JavaScriptCore
      0x96980000 - 0x96a42fff libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib     /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
      0x96aa0000 - 0x96acefff libssl.0.9.7.dylib     /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib
      0x96b50000 - 0x96bdffff ATS     /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
      0x96f20000 - 0x9716efff libhotspot.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libhotspot.dylib
      0x971a0000 - 0x971bbfff libjava.jnilib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libjava.jnilib
      0x971d0000 - 0x971dafff libverify.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libverify.dylib
      0x97345000 - 0x973b2fff libvDSP.dylib     /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
      0x973e0000 - 0x976c6fff com.apple.WebCore 315    /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore
      0x9798b000 - 0x9798bfff com.apple.audio.units.AudioUnit 1.3.3    /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit
      0x979b0000 - 0x97c12fff com.apple.QuickTime 7.0.0    /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      So, it seems that after resolving the networking problem you're still
      getting a crash.  This is a _different_ crash, caused by a _different_
      problem.

      Please test your plugins and extensions as I suggested above.  If
      you've already done it before, do it again (since this is a different
      problem).

      The point of these tests isn't to make you stop using your plugins and
      extensions.  Rather, it's to find out which of them is causing
      trouble.  Once I know, I may be able to find a way to alter the JEP to
      get around the trouble.

      The general format of the tests should be as follows:  Remove _all_
      your extra plugins and _all_ your extensions, and see if this causes
      the problem to go away.  Then put all your plugins back, one by one,
      and see which one (if any) triggers the problem.  Then do the same
      with your extensions.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      Actually, your crash log provides an important clue -- it's possible
      that one of your plugins or extensions is starting the JVM before the
      Java Embedding Plugin gets a chance to.  If so, this will need to
      change -- the Java Embedding Plugin needs to be the program that
      starts the JVM.

      Once again, please test without any of your extra plugins or any of
      your extensions.  I assume this will cause all your problems (there
      may still be several) to go away.  If it doesn't please let me know.

      Then, if doing this _has_ made all your problems go away, put your
      plugins and extensions back, one by one, until problems start
      recurring.

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      I take it you mean by extensions the Java extensions. I f so i do have many of them. Before I take them out and reinstall them one by one take a look at this i found at the ~Library/Logs under JavaNativeCrash_pidxxxx.log:

      The following error report describes the Java stack information at the crash.
      The native stack information can be found in the crash log generated by CrashReporter.

      Unexpected Signal : Bus Error occurred at PC=0x96F792B0
      Function=[Unknown.]
      Library=/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libhotspot.dylib

      NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
            just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
            reason and solutions.

      Current Java thread:
      Cannot find the last Java frame, printing stack disabled.

      Dynamic libraries and executable:
      [0x0000f39c-0x0081c8bc] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin
      [0x00f44964-0x00f4c888] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/components/libqfaservices.dylib
      [0x00f9127c-0x00fae148] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/components/talkback/talkback.dylib
      [0x01dac778-0x01dcee38] /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/MRJPlugin.plugin/Contents/MacOS/MRJPlugin
      [0x03cc54e0-0x03cf03d0] /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/JavaEmbeddingPlugin
      [0x018cf174-0x018d09b4] /System/Library/TextEncodings/Unicode Encodings.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Unicode Encodings
      [0x05d062d4-0x05d0eaa8] /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaPluginCocoa.bundle/Contents/MacOS/JavaPluginCocoa
      [0x06001294-0x0605fdf4] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libmozjs.dylib
      [0x070017a4-0x070731c4] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libxpcom.dylib
      [0x04001180-0x0400c678] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libplds4.dylib
      [0x050014c4-0x0500d588] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libplc4.dylib
      [0x03001620-0x0302bdc8] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libnspr4.dylib
      [0x900008e0-0x90121d30] /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
      [0x90ec0ec8-0x90ec0f78] /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
      [0x91141ec0-0x91141f70] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon
      [0x979b1b20-0x97bbe028] /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime
      [0x905a0dd0-0x905fe020] /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
      [0x0a001d84-0x0a01a324] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libsmime3.dylib
      [0x08001dc8-0x08018080] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libssl3.dylib
      [0x09001e0c-0x09052e8c] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libnss3.dylib
      [0x0b001a38-0x0b05f1e4] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libsoftokn3.dylib
      [0x0c001278-0x0c01680c] /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/libxpcom_compat.dylib
      [0x91143eb4-0x91143f64] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
      [0x901c0ab8-0x9025a58c] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
      [0x93a50eb4-0x93a5257c] /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
      [0x92e71868-0x932a1090] /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
      [0x90a21648-0x90b47720] /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
      [0x918d0e9c-0x918dced8] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture
      [0x9477de40-0x94789e8c] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition
      [0x909f0b68-0x909f9808] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI
      [0x948008f0-0x9487c490] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink
      [0x90810ea8-0x90810f58] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices
      [0x90a04740-0x90a0d86c] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help
      [0x91891410-0x918a4794] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
      [0x919713c0-0x919ac110] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
      [0x914e0df4-0x915387fc] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
      [0x91a41a48-0x91a978b8] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices
      [0x91afc244-0x91b12fb8] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
      [0x91901328-0x9190adb8] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
      [0x92880f9c-0x92b1a16c] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
      [0x90737964-0x90783aa4] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio
      [0x95a097e0-0x95a91d88] /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
      [0x9798b5dc-0x9798bf90] /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit
      [0x93a56b78-0x93a56ca8] /System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
      [0x92170e54-0x922e24e0] /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
      [0x90d508f4-0x90d666f0] /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration
      [0x941f8834-0x9420057c] /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
      [0x910e09d8-0x91126ee0] /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Bom.framework/Versions/A/Bom
      [0x902b0d0c-0x90371000] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
      [0x906414a0-0x906a85dc] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
      [0x927f1124-0x92822148] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
      [0x941213b8-0x94134d28] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebServicesCore.framework/Versions/A/WebServicesCore
      [0x946e1134-0x9472e0b8] /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit
      [0x95b514ac-0x95c23b7c] /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
      [0x909415e4-0x90995918] /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv
      [0x8b2d7330-0x8b394af8] /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
      [0x908611e0-0x9086de7c] /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
      [0x916f1168-0x917211cc] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
      [0x96b51448-0x96bd2564] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
      [0x913a0b64-0x913f7444] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
      [0x93680b70-0x939016f0] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics
      [0x91761504-0x917ceca8] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore
      [0x915e17f0-0x9167c25c] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD
      [0x913216b8-0x91334fd4] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis
      [0x92de1148-0x92e249a4] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices
      [0x90d7ce28-0x90d8b4e8] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis
      [0x920f1308-0x9211007c] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FindByContent.framework/Versions/A/FindByContent
      [0x90e140d0-0x90e44ee0] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
      [0x9071d940-0x9072e198] /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
      [0x94193260-0x9419aac4] /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/Versions/A/DiskArbitration
      [0x91b315cc-0x91b417f4] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGATS.A.dylib
      [0x91b60830-0x91b6a2e0] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCSync.A.dylib
      [0x91b90ba8-0x91ba5890] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPDFRIP.A.dylib
      [0x91bd12ac-0x91bdbb5c] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libPSRIP.A.dylib
      [0x914ae4f8-0x914be854] /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRIP.A.dylib
      [0x958e05e8-0x958fe0f4] /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvMisc.dylib
      [0x9734562c-0x9739d034] /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
      [0x94ea0d00-0x954a1cb4] /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
      [0x9550100c-0x957cbd7c] /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
      [0x94babd18-0x94bc2514] /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib
      [0x95f30780-0x95f44aa8] /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
      [0x942047c4-0x9420c2bc] /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib
      [0x96aa0b40-0x96ac7664] /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib
      [0x96980814-0x96a202a0] /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
      [0x9618af2c-0x9618d6c4] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM
      [0x8f02173c-0x8f02c4a8] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaEmbedding.framework/Versions/A/JavaEmbedding
      [0x94170e40-0x941719dc] /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/JavaCarbonSupport.framework/Versions/A/JavaCarbonSupport
      [0x8ae8780c-0x8af4d15c] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Libraries/libawt.jnilib
      [0x96093034-0x96107660] /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit
      [0x971a1598-0x971b77a4] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libjava.jnilib
      [0x80fd0c6c-0x80fd31c8] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libfontmanager.jnilib
      [0x961b15c4-0x96212920] /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/JavaScriptCore.framework/Versions/A/JavaScriptCore
      [0x973e1024-0x9761958c] /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore
      [0x971d0b6c-0x971d9214] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libverify.dylib
      [0x96f215e0-0x9713a390] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libhotspot.dylib
      [0x8cbce7d0-0x8cbf0360] /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
      [0x80d4075c-0x80d4a2c8] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libzip.jnilib
      [0x80ec137c-0x80edcd58] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libjdwp.jnilib
      [0x80fe0c50-0x80fe1a34] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libdt_socket.jnilib
      [0x948b1150-0x948d6890] /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityInterface.framework/Versions/A/SecurityInterface
      [0x947b1728-0x947b1b74] /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Versions/A/SecurityFoundation
      [0x80df0770-0x80df0d8c] /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libkeychain.jnilib

      Local Time = Mon May 23 01:16:28 2005
      Elapsed Time = 1050
      #
      # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : Bus Error
      # Error ID : /SourceCache/HotSpot14/HotSpot14-38/src/share/vm/runtime/os.cpp, 788
      # Please report this error at
      # http://bugreport.apple.com/
      #
      # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.2-38 mixed mode)
      #

      I did a search on google and found this link:

      http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=600431&tstart=240 which lead me to

      http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/May/msg00528.html. I do have some of this 3d java extensions, mainly j3d types.

      I bet that is where the problem is.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      > I take it you mean by extensions the Java extensions

      I actually meant both Java and Firefox extensions (sorry, I should
      have said so).  But I really need you to remove _whatever_ "extra"
      stuff you have until the problems go away.  I'm 99% certain that the
      problems _will_ go away if you remove everything ... but I do realize
      doing this could be a pain.  The important thing is to narrow your
      problems down to whatever is causing them.  If, by lucky guessing, you
      manage to find the culprit(s) _without_ removing everything and then
      putting it all back, piece by piece, that's fine with me.  However, my
      own experience tells me that it's often easier to mechanically trudge
      through "remove all the pieces and put them back one by one" than to
      guess correctly.

      By the way, the new traces you've posted contain no additional
      information.

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      I did remove all my /System/Library/Java/Extensions and all the /Library/Internet Plug-ins with the exception of Java Applet Plugin Enabler, Java Applet.plugin, JavaPluginCocoa.bundle, JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle and MRJPlugin.plugin. It still crashed it the same way but not on the first attempt. I removed the JavaPluginCocoa.bundle -no difference. I put back the JavaPluginCocoa.bundle and removed the JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle -NO MORE CRASHES. The web page -read further- tells me "Detecting Java Runtime Environment.." with a colored bar. After a few seconds it tells me, Sorry!
      We were not able to detect your Java Runtime Environment in a timely manner.
      Your browser may not using the latest or compatible JRE. Please select one of these two options;" which is "Try again". Again, this page is http://java.sun.com/j2se/jre_check/index.jsp?jreinit=no. Is it possible that in the mirror I chose -a Swiss one i thought - i may have downloaded a trojan? Is there any way I can upload safely this binary or package for you to take a look? By the way it does not fall back to Java 1.3.1 because I found out all I have of 1.3.1 is header files in a SDK and it associated control panel. Because i had to do a reinstall from CD with the archiving option before, I have it on my previous system folder. I guess i should mention that I did try to build the source on my system and it builded fine. I assumed that there was something wrong with the build i made -though no errors came out - and trashed the binaries and used the binaries that came with the distribution instead; but now discovered that there was nothing wrong with the build. I would like to know, however, how to build specifically for 10.3.9 and upwards -you did mention it in the instructions but i could not figure it out since i am new at this. Do not need backward compatibility since I do not expect to be using earlier versions.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      I'm still quite certain that your problems(s) (whatever they are)
      aren't caused by the Java Embedding Plugin.  But I can no longer think
      of new places to look to find those problems.

      One last suggestion:  Do a clean install of your OS (not just an
      upgrade), and see what happens.

      As for building the Java Embedding Plugin yourself, my Building.txt
      tells you all you need to know.  Read it a few times over, if need be.

      No one else has reported problems remotely like the ones you have
      reported.  You haven't provided me enough information to figure them
      out.  I've run out of suggestions where you might look to find this
      information.  I'm afraid I'm going to have to wait for someone else to
      report one or more of these problems, and see what I can do then.

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      This is a clean install with archiving option. No upgrade, only update from 10.3.6. I reinstalled all the other plugins with the exception of the JavaEmbeddingPlugin and no more crashes. It could be something in my system that is not compatible with the JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle but it is not the plugins in the Internet Plug-in folder or the java extensions in the system java extensions folders. When i do a search in the in the finder for "plugin", I do get tons of plugins in other folders. By the way, have you thought of porting the Java 1.5 source on Panther. But even on Tiger java 1.5 it has some problems. However, It seems it is a lot easier than what you have done. No offense, I can hardly program a "Hello World!' program. And since finding the hard way has always been the story of my life, it is natural for me to think of it as a posibility. I began with the makefiles and looking at the linux ones and it does not appear very complex. But again I do not know.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      Like I said, I'm completely stumped.  I can only think there's
      something (or things) that you've overlooked ... but I have no idea
      what they might be.  (However, if you haven't yet tried all three
      Mozilla-family browers, and you haven't tried Firefox without any of
      its own extensions, do so right away.)

      In the meantime I'm afraid you'll have to do without the Java
      Embedding Plugin :-(

      > By the way, have you thought of porting the Java 1.5 source on
      > Panther?

      I think it'd be easier to ride to the moon and back on a bicycle :-)

       
    • Newbee

      Newbee - 2005-05-23

      I have only tried Firefox. I have tried without the extensions: both Firefox extensions and Java extensions. From reading about the bus error, i came across one suggestion of using a newer Java VM. I noticed in the crash log above that Java VM update 1 was being used. Since i did a clean reinstall with archiving, the Java VM that came with 10.3.6 would have been installed. You think that after doing the updates, it would have been updated too. But since i placed back some files from the saved archive, it is possible that i could have fooled the update system inadvertently and not updated the files. The reason for this hypothesis is that I have the Java 1.4.2 update 2 package. When i tried to apply it, it tells me that i cannot install this update in this volume; ithis volume does not contain a version of java that needs updating.

       
    • Steven Michaud

      Steven Michaud - 2005-05-23

      Do you have a spare partition on one of your hard drives that's at
      least, say, 20 gigs?  If so, wipe it clean and install the OS there.
      Then boot from it and keep running Software Update until there are no
      more updates available.

      This should give you about as clean an install as it's possible to
      get.

      And do, please, try both Camino and Mozilla ... not just Firefox.

       

Log in to post a comment.

Want the latest updates on software, tech news, and AI?
Get latest updates about software, tech news, and AI from SourceForge directly in your inbox once a month.