Command-H and Command-Q get disabled in Firefox as
soon as you load at least one applet into one
window. Command-H (though not Command-Q) gets
disabled in Mozilla if the key window has ever had
an applet loaded into it (the problem goes away if
another browser window becomes key that's never
had an applet loaded into it). None of these
problems happen in Camino.
Some of this was reported on 2004-9-22 in the
JEP's Bugs tracker ([ 1032695 ] Firefox And
applets). I've documented it in my
KnownProblems.txt file ... though it seems that
description there is partially inaccurate (I'll
have to revise it).
I have other problems to deal with that are much
more serious than these. And these are likely to
be quite difficult to resolve. I don't know when
I'll be able to get to them.
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FYI, I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803), so cmd-Q at least in my case gets disabled with Mozilla as well.
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I just confirmed what I said in my previous post,
testing with Mozilla 1.7.2 on OS X 10.3.5 with
Java 1.4.2 Update 2 (and also with Mozilla 1.7.3,
which is the latest version, on OS X 10.2.8 with
Java 1.4.1 and OS X 10.3.5 with Java 1.4.2 Update
2).
But now I think I understand what's happening to
you. As of JEP 0.8.5 (the current version is
0.8.6), _no_ Command-key or Control-key
combination will work in any Carbon browser
(i.e. in Mozilla or Firefox) for as long as the
focus is in an applet. You change the focus to a
given object by clicking the mouse on it. If you
click the mouse outside of any applet (i.e. if you
put the focus outside any applet), you'll once
again be able to use Command-key and Control-key
combinations ... most of them, at least. (For
reasons that aren't entirely clear, sometimes you
have to click twice outside any applet for this to
change the focus.)
I wish this weren't true ... but there's nothing I
can do about it. Mozilla and Firefox behave the
same way using Java 1.3.1. Camino behaves
"correctly" -- Command-key and Control-key
combinations are fed to the browser even when the
focus is in applet. And prior to version 0.8.5
the JEP enforced this behavior on Mozilla and
Firefox, too. But doing this caused too many
other problems, and I had to change it.
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Having this page open, or rather having the Java applet on that page loaded, disables the keyboard shortcuts (cmd-H, cmd-Q):
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/contents.html
Command-H and Command-Q get disabled in Firefox as
soon as you load at least one applet into one
window. Command-H (though not Command-Q) gets
disabled in Mozilla if the key window has ever had
an applet loaded into it (the problem goes away if
another browser window becomes key that's never
had an applet loaded into it). None of these
problems happen in Camino.
Some of this was reported on 2004-9-22 in the
JEP's Bugs tracker ([ 1032695 ] Firefox And
applets). I've documented it in my
KnownProblems.txt file ... though it seems that
description there is partially inaccurate (I'll
have to revise it).
I have other problems to deal with that are much
more serious than these. And these are likely to
be quite difficult to resolve. I don't know when
I'll be able to get to them.
FYI, I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803), so cmd-Q at least in my case gets disabled with Mozilla as well.
I just confirmed what I said in my previous post,
testing with Mozilla 1.7.2 on OS X 10.3.5 with
Java 1.4.2 Update 2 (and also with Mozilla 1.7.3,
which is the latest version, on OS X 10.2.8 with
Java 1.4.1 and OS X 10.3.5 with Java 1.4.2 Update
2).
But now I think I understand what's happening to
you. As of JEP 0.8.5 (the current version is
0.8.6), _no_ Command-key or Control-key
combination will work in any Carbon browser
(i.e. in Mozilla or Firefox) for as long as the
focus is in an applet. You change the focus to a
given object by clicking the mouse on it. If you
click the mouse outside of any applet (i.e. if you
put the focus outside any applet), you'll once
again be able to use Command-key and Control-key
combinations ... most of them, at least. (For
reasons that aren't entirely clear, sometimes you
have to click twice outside any applet for this to
change the focus.)
I wish this weren't true ... but there's nothing I
can do about it. Mozilla and Firefox behave the
same way using Java 1.3.1. Camino behaves
"correctly" -- Command-key and Control-key
combinations are fed to the browser even when the
focus is in applet. And prior to version 0.8.5
the JEP enforced this behavior on Mozilla and
Firefox, too. But doing this caused too many
other problems, and I had to change it.