Re: [javaCompiler-users] [Fwd: Release of NativeJ (formerly known as javaCompiler) version 0.9]

[Marco T. <mt...@gm...>]

Sean McNamara wrote:
> I can still download javaCompiler 0.8, including source, online.. if the 
> license for that permits, we may be able to fork it under another name 
> and continue to improve it F/OSS style.

Until JavaCompiler 0.8, it was GPL. So feel free to continue development 
of it under GPL terms. But also understand that the GUI frontend is only 
10% of the whole work. Building, maintaining and testing the compilers 
is the real work.


> Sounds like it's gone the way of 
> NJawin, but imho Jawin is way better anyway, and it's Open Source, so...

Do you have a link to NJawin? I never heard of it and a quick google 
search didn't bring anything up...


> I'm disappointed, but not altogether surprised... In Marco's defense, 

There is nothing to defense. If you think there is, then you don't 
understand the concept of free software. Although I'm starting to sound 
like a broken idiotic robot: please read the FAQ.


> Be that as it may, I am saddened to see another OSS project dry up,

Why do you think it will dry up? I will maintain it as I always did...


> and 
> I hope we can make the best of it by using Marco's work as a basis for 
> other projects. I may begin learning the internals of javaCompiler and, 
> while not necessarily using the JavaCompiler GUI,

In this case, just compile GCJ yourself. That's the whole idea behind 
free software ;-)
But keep in mind that, depending on your background, you'll need a month 
(if you've my experience in this field) until years (if you're able to 
do it at all) to reach the same quality that NativeJ provides right now 
(and big improvements are coming).
So, if we calculate one month for the task, you would have hourly wage 
of 0.25$ (you spare one NativeJ licence). Ah yeah, you wouldn't have 
your usual wage from your job and probably need longer for it.


> I'll take the time to 
> learn what goes wrong in the native compilation of several popular Java 
> programs. My goal will be to try and get some popular OSS Java programs 
> compiled into native ELF32 and Win32 binaries for ease of distribution.

Cool! Is there a project website?


> I have several SWT programs in mind that should be easier to get working 
> than the Swing/AWT ones.

Yes, SWT completely works with GCJ. Now that Java is under GPL with the 
GPL exception, Swing and AWT support can be taken from Sun. So that will 
be supported very soon as well...


Marco