Re: [Java-gnome-developer] RE: Mark Howard's Blog

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

Hi Jerry,

I've decided to put a little more effort into java-gnome. After writing the blog
entry, I sent a message to java-gnome hackers mailing list. There is a
tremendous amount of support for java-gnome, it seems that we've just been
failing to channel that into productive work recently. We all have ideas about
where improvements can be made and things are looking very positive in this
respect -- we are already starting to make them.
If you're interested, please go to our temporary developmental website (I only
created it a couple of days ago) at http://java-gnome.sf.net/cgi-bin/bin/view
and click on the development page. Feel free to add you own ideas there.

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 12:14:57PM -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote:
> count them on one hand. But library's? Hundreds of not thousands. Just
That's a really good point. 
Also for companies working with java-gnome, that really is something we should
think about more. AFAIK, lots of people really want gnome to be adopted more in
business. If java-gnome can help with that, then we might be able to help a lot
by modifying our website a little.
One thing I really would be interested in is extending the applications page of
the website -- having some user (developer really) comments would be really
helpful, even if it's just a couple of lines saying "I work for a company that
does foo; we use java-gnome internally for x, y, z; we chose to develop with
java-gnome because..." -- Do you think you might be able to start us off with
that?

> Hacking on Java-Gnome is something I am really interested in. I have a
> lot of ideas I am working on right now. A major stumbling block I am
> hitting is the build system you mention.
It is a pain, but I feel we are really close now. The cvs modules reorganisation
have made a huge impact. New developers getting involved will also be easier in
the next 6 months since we will be developing against a stable gtk+ release.
 
> I find the need to write JNI bindings for each widget that you want to
> wrap unnecessary and excessive. I would like to create GObjects from
> within Java (overriding TreeModel), so I am working on these things. Is
> anybody else? (Being able to inspect GObject vmethods would sure
> help!!!)
I've heard other comments about people working on TreeModels, but don't know any
details.

> After this, integrating a Glade designer into Eclipse should be a snap.
> One I'd be happy to work on. This is where it's at guys! We have an
> amazing potential for RAD that I can only classify as "kind of like VB".
> Quick prototyping and usage of widgets and forms. The difference being
> Java doesn't suck. ;)
Wow. That would be really amazing. 

> More visibility would help. It took me awhile to realize that there was
> even a Java-Gnome.
Any tips on how to do this?

> If you'd like to hear some more of my ideas about getting rid of JNI,
> let me know. I have a lot of them. :0
Sure, sounds very interesting, especially if it might make it easier to develop
the bindings -- so that we can concentrate on designing a really good API.
Please add them as a new page on http://java-gnome.sf.net/cgi-bin/bin/view/ ,
linked to the development page. That way your ideas won't get lost in email
archives.

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