Re: [Java-gnome-developer] naming and distribution issues

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il sab, 2003-11-15 alle 21:40, R. A. Rivas Diaz ha scritto:
> --- Mark Howard <mh...@ca...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >   Thanks for trying java-gnome. Hoe you like it.
> > 
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:24:30AM -0800, R. A. Rivas Diaz wrote:
> > > 1. path of the files installed.
> > > Currently the libs are generated in /usr/local/lib. Why it's not
> > > installed in /usr/lib? 
> > /usr/lib is for files installed by the distribution you are using.
> > /usr/local is for things you installed separately. It is part of the
> > FHS, I think.
> > In Debian java policy, java-gnome libs are placed in /usr/lib/jni/
> > 
> I don't like this libraries be treated as "diferent" things. I really
> prefer them to be on the same folder as the others, but obviously thats
> only my preference. I can live with that if this folder is searched by
> default.
> 
> > > Also the jars are installed in /usr/local/share/java-gnome. I don't
> > > know any standard folder for jars, but gcj installs it's jar in
> > > /usr/share/java. Maybe it's a more logical path.
> > Again, I think the chosen directory is the best. 
> > 
> My point for proposing a centralized folder, is that this jars are like
> system libraries, not jars usable for only one application. If they
> where only used for a "java-gnome" application, for me is logical that
> place.
> Maybe is OK to put them on a specific place while there is no standard,
> but I think that "system" jars should be on a unique folder, like libs
> are on a unique folder.
> Maybe I should propose /usr/jar or /usr/local/jar instead of
> /usr/lib/java.
Again, why should jars be treated like something special?
I think $DATADIR/java-gnome it' the right place.
The only one that worths consideration is $DATADIR/java as other
libraries, e.g. ant, install jars there.

> 
> >  
> > > 3. distribution format
> > > I think having rpms and other distribution formats, basically for
> > > binary distribution, can help finding testers. For example, when I
> > see
> > Java-gnome is available in the main Debian distribution. rpms are
> > available and will be on the main java-gnome website (or at least
> > linked
> > from there) very soon.
> > 
> OK
> And what about the names for the libraries?
Now we have:
/usr/lib/libGNOMEJAR.so
/usr/lib/libGNOMEJar.so.0.8.1
/usr/lib/libGNOMEJava.so
/usr/lib/libGNOMEJava.so.0.8.1
/usr/lib/libGTKJAR.so
/usr/lib/libGTKJar.so.0.8.1
/usr/lib/libGTKJava.so
/usr/lib/libGTKJava.so.0.8.1
/usr/lib/libGladeJAR.so
/usr/lib/libGladeJar.so.0.8.1
/usr/lib/libGladeJava.so
/usr/lib/libGladeJava.so.0.8.1

Why do we have JAR in capitals?
I vote to put all the names like: libGnomeJava, libGnomeJar, libGtkJava,
libGtkJar, libGladeJava, libGladeJar so we'll avoid all this caps
confusion. Also it doesn't seem correct to me to have libGNOMEJava while
on the other hand libGladeJava. Don't you see this as a discrepancy?

Ciao,
Luca.
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Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>