Re: [Java-gnome-developer] JVM benchmarks: kaffe takes the cake

[Elias M. <el...@al...>]

I think you summarised my opinion very well. It's nice to see that I'm
not alone in this.

ons 2003-11-12 klockan 22.32 skrev J. Mark Brooks:

> The Blackdown version of Sun's Java SDK (1.4.1) is already included as 
> part of the standard gentoo distribution. And yes, it is hardly a big 
> download compared to something like OpenOffice-bin . Anything with that 
> level of functionality is going to be a pain to download over dialup.

Also, it is important to remember that the VM only has to be downloaded
once.Just like the Python, Perl or TCL interpreters also has to be
downloaded and installed only once.

> A lot of the bias against Java in the Linux community is because there 
> are a lot of long-time Sun haters.

This is a fact I just can't get me head around. Sun has done a lot of
good for the Unix community. Lately they have done a lot for the GNOME
community.

> Swing has an unjustified reputation 
> for being slow. Compared to Python/Tkinter or Perl/Tk? I think not.

Agreed, but their arguments aren't rational. A little reading of
slashdot will make that painfully clear.

> I think that Sun's JDK should be a part of major Linux distos (other 
> than just Gentoo). For that matter, I'd like to see RH-compatible 
> java-gnome RPMS. :) I can't seem to find any on the net for RH9/FC1, and 
> I prefer to use RPM for installing stuff to my system long-term.  Just a 
> hint.

It was rumoured that RH10 would ship with Java by default. Now with the
Fedora thing I don't know if that plan is still on track.

Elias