Re: [Java-gnome-developer] JVM benchmarks: kaffe takes the cake

[J. M. B. <jmb...@co...>]

> Yet applications such as PostgreSQL and 3 billion useless(:-)) KDE 
> libraries are usually installed on a standard Linux distribution and 
> it's not considered being a "big" extra.
>
> In my mind, what needs to be done is to lobby for the inclusing of 
> VM's on the linux distributions. apt-based distros such as debian and 
> fedors shouldn't be a problem at all technically, since a Java-GNOME 
> app can include the dependencies on it and it will get downloaded 
> automatically.

The Blackdown version of Sun's Java SDK (1.4.1) is already included as 
part of the standard gentoo distribution. And yes, it is hardly a big 
download compared to something like OpenOffice-bin . Anything with that 
level of functionality is going to be a pain to download over dialup.

A lot of the bias against Java in the Linux community is because there 
are a lot of long-time Sun haters.  Swing has an unjustified reputation 
for being slow. Compared to Python/Tkinter or Perl/Tk? I think not.

I think that Sun's JDK should be a part of major Linux distos (other 
than just Gentoo). For that matter, I'd like to see RH-compatible 
java-gnome RPMS. :) I can't seem to find any on the net for RH9/FC1, and 
I prefer to use RPM for installing stuff to my system long-term.  Just a 
hint.