Re: [Java-gnome-developer] JVM benchmarks: kaffe takes the cake

[Elias M. <el...@al...>]

Tiago Cogumbreiro wrote:

> Sun's JVM is superior to GCJ and Kaffe, but nowadays these Open options
> are way more mature and present as a viable choice, such fact didn't
> happened in a few months ago. GCJ has a great advantage: being able to
> compile classes to native code is great to package/destribute and your
> program (in a single platform)

I find this to be a huge issue. I'd much rather place a dependency on a 
VM and then be able to distribute the same PRM, DEB or whatever archive 
to everybody. The user would still never have to bother about the VM.

The lack of properly working dynamic class loading and reflection is 
also a problem for me.

> and don't forget that there are alot of
> Java alergics out there (especially in the Linux community) that don't
> want anything to do with java classes and jars,

I don't think one problem (allergic users) should be solved by 
introducing another (platform dependency and neutering the Java platform).

> also there's the Swing
> factor which gives a bit of a bad impression in all java programs that
> they are slugish.

Solved with Java-GNOME. That's why we're here, isn't it? :-)

> This way when they open up our java-gnome program
> they'll think it's an ordinary C/Gnome program.

My Java-GNOME test applications look exactly like any GNOME application 
written in C, and it runs in the Sun VM. Exactly what is the problem?

Sorry for sounding a bit harsh. I usually try to avoid that on public 
forums but this is an issue that I care a lot about.

Elias