Re: [Java-gnome-developer] How to make Java-Gnome popular...

[Clemens E. <Lin...@we...>]

Hi!

> I would recommend stripping the shared objects.  This will
> reduce the size by a significant amount.  On my system you
> this reduces them to a very acceptable size.  The following
> lines are the output from the size command on my system
> without any modifications to the build after stripping the
> shared objects:
>
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>  402270  195912    3044  601226   92c8a libGNOMEJar.so
>  178073    2912      28  181013   2c315 libGNOMEJava.so
> 1607282  809348   14132 2430762  25172a libGTKJar.so
>  574135    8960      52  583147   8e5eb libGTKJava.so
>
> The physical size of the shared objects are:
>
>  601020  - libGNOMEJar.so
>  183800  - libGNOMEJava.so
> 2424700  - libGTKJar.so
>  591056  - libGTKJava.so
>
Wow, that are really very good values! - Only the libGTKJar.so is a 
little "heavyweight" , but all other files are so small that this should 
be no problem...

Is it welcome that I want to create .rpms and .debs?

Only one last question: I still develop my apps with 0.7.1 - How 
complete is the gtk2-port 0.8? Has it already reached an useable status 
or is it still quiet incoplete?

Thx for answering my stupid questions ;-) and for developing such great 
software!

Clemens

> After recompiling with the -O3 options I yield the following
> results:
>
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>  402312  190292    3044  595648   916c0 libGNOMEJar.so
>  180801    2908      28  183737   2cdb9 libGNOMEJava.so
> 1612971  805828   14132 2432931  251fa3 libGTKJar.so
>  584479    8956      52  593487   90e4f libGTKJava.so
>
>  595432  - libGNOMEJar.so
>  186516  - libGNOMEJava.so
> 2426876  - libGTKJar.so
>  601420  - libGTKJava.so
>
> As you can see, the -O3 options actually increases the size
> of a few of the files.  This is due to the fact that O3 is
> optimizing for speed and not size.
>
> -Jeff
>
> > Hi everybody!
> >
> > I've now written a very first Version of my
> > wine-configurationprogramm
> > using gcj and java-gnome.
> > There are two problems contributing my app:
> >
> > 1. Java-GTK is very big!(~5megs (the java-jar, the gcj-so and
> > the c-part
> > of the bindings)
> > I think this problem isnt so easy to solve. But ist a little
> > problematic
> > that the java-bindings are much bigger than the library for which the
> > bindings were written, maybe we can optimeze the code a
> > little bit, so
> > that we can use the -O3 flag for the C-part. -O2 should work
> > everywhere
> > and the  size of libjavagtk.so should decrease 30-50%. Are there any
> > optimisations used for now? I thin only the C-part is the
> > problem, the
> > jar-archive already very small. The second problem is the
> > compiled part
> > for the gcj, which is about ~3.2 megs big. maybe with some
> > playarounds
> > it can be done with 2.5megs but not less ;-(
> >
> > 2. There are no user-ready packages avaible. (.deb, .rpm, .tar.gz)
> > Althougt this is a big problem it  should be very easy to solve. Were
> > included in no distribution, and users cat even download any
> > binary-packages.
> > I'll build some packages using esp in the next month - maybe we'll be
> > included  in UnitedLinux ;-)
>