RE: [java-gnome-hackers] Looking forward

[Luca De R. <pie...@fa...>]

Il ven, 2004-04-09 alle 13:34, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto:
> > I agree with Mark: do you remember how many bug reports we 
> > have had when
> > we released 0.8.2 (and joined the official bindings)?
> > We couldn't take care of our users whining for a 0.8.3 
> > release, cause we
> > were in business with 2.5.3.
> 
> Perhaps a good compromise is for us to target a 2.6.1 release
> one month from the release of 2.6.0.  During that time we can
> just focus on the Lazy Event Registration, GDK enhancements,
> gconf enhancements and bug fixes.  We would not create a branch
> in the code until that release went out.
I totally agree with this point.

> 
> > I think, maybe, we should look more to the practical 
> > aspect...(really no offense intended:))
> > We should ask ourselves: do we need 64-bit support? Who is 
> > going to use
> > it in the near future? Is someone managing to build a useful app with
> > it? (well not that I want a promise of faith but maybe someone could
> > have been hired to write something with it (like Bob Fischer with the
> > iPaq...))
> > What I say is that if we are going to add 64 bit support only because
> > having it is fine, perhaps we could work on the existing code to fill
> > the holes that are present in the bindings, instead. (like DnD...)
> > In this way, I hope we'll see more applications spreading 
> > out, cause our
> > users will have a stronger and more complete library to play with.
> 
> My main concern is that the 64-bit fix will be fairly intrusive
> into our code.  I fear that the longer we wait the more difficult this
> change will become.  If everybody feels we should put this off then
> I am ok with that.
I really can't say, because I'm not very into this...but I feel the we
need to improve the current code (as users ask for it) instead of
introducing 64bit support. However I'd prefer to hear some others
opinions.

> > My point is that it's better to keep fixing bugs for the 2.6 release
> > while our users will ask for them. Then we could accept 
> > patches for the
> > 0.8 branch but we should explicitly encourage people to use 
> > 2.6, because
> > of the large changes that have been done.
> > 
> > I'm tempted to say that Jeff, Mark and Jonas could take the devel
> > branch, and work on adding new modules , on keeping in sync with
> > gnome,and on adding 64bit support (if it's really needed), 
> > because this
> > is the more work, while the others and I should maintain the stable
> > branch (with a lot of help from you of course...:)).
> > But since I understand that, at least Mark and I are a bit under
> > pressure with the uni, I don't know if this idea could fit at the
> > moment...
> > So maybe the best solution now is to wait until the gnome-2.7 release
> > cycle to add new modules and 64bit support. In this way we can start
> > from a heavily fixed version of j-g-2.6.X without the need of
> > backporting anything. When the 2.7 branch will start, then I 
> > could take
> > care of backporting eventual fixes in the 2.6, but since it has just
> > passed a six months bug-busting period, hopefully there will 
> > be few bugs
> > to fix between 2.7 and 2.8.
> 
> The majority of the bugs that will be found will need to be fixed
> in 2.7 and 2.6.  We clearly need somebody on the team appointed
> the stable release maintainer.  This person will need to backport
> fixes to the 2.6 branch and make periodic releases.  I think this 
> should not be a full time effort so this person could also work
> on the development releases when not working on stable releases.
> This would start after the release of 2.6.1 (around the middle of
> May).
Ok, I think, at that time, I'll have no problem picking up the stable
branch.

> > I would take care of fixing the stable branch, and I think 
> > this implies
> > also implementing DnD...but are you talking about to get it fixed
> > *before* we release final? Because, unfortunately, I will 
> > find a bit of
> > time only after 17th.
> 
> I think DnD is something we should try to get working during
> the 2.7 development effort.  Here I am talking about both
> Widget and TreeView DnD.  There is already a lot of code here
> but it is incomplete.  We should also add Clipboard support as
> well.
Ok, I've got the idea and I agree with you. We'll work on DnD and
friends during 2.7 release cycle.
-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@fa...>