Re: [java-gnome-hackers] java-gnome future

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

I could not agree more.  I would like to see a release out soon
followed by several quick releases addressing bugs, stability
and api enhancements.

I would like to get everybody's input on what should be completed
prior to a release.  Also, let's place a time frame for the
completion of these tasks.

On Fri, 2003-04-18 at 13:16, Mark Howard wrote:
> Hi,
>   I've been thinking this for a while, but have kept quiet so far.
> 
> Java-gnome is a good system. It is the only way of making gnome
> applications with java and so could be very useful for open source linux
> applications. There are many people developing these things. 
> 
> I am concerned that java-gnome is not getting the attention it needs. As
> a result, not enough people are contributing bug reports and patches (to
> both java-gnome and free JVMs). From this, we are in the situation where
> we haven't had a release supporting gtk2.0 despite gtk2.2 being released
> at the start of the year.
> I think the cause of this is the java-gnome release strategy. At the
> moment it seems to be that releases should be made only when we have a
> stable system and that developers can check out cvs - this rarely
> happens.
> 
> java-gnome seems to be going against the general open source tradition
> of releasing early and often. I personally feel that we should have many
> more releases - for example fixing the uiinfo code would warrant a
> release, as would the String handling changes and treemodel api changes.
> This means releasing code (as a development release - with adequate
> warnings) which is known to be broken in places and will have (possibly
> major) api changes between revisions. We would then probably get to 0.76
> before releasing version 1.0 - I have no problems with that. 
> 
> When these releases are made, people would see the announcements and so
> more people would hear about the project. More importantly, people who
> already know about the project will see that it's getting better and
> might feel like giving it a try. 
> 
> The release early and often strategy is proven to work - almost all open
> source projects do this for their development versions.
> 
> Why doesn't java-gnome follow this strategy?
> What does everyone else think about this?
-- 
Jeffrey Morgan <ku...@zo...>