[java-gnome-hackers] Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Possibility to built SWING on top uf Java-GTK?

[Tom B. <Tom...@Su...>]

On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 05:22, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > Furthermore... I want to run it as native machine-code, I really don't like the 
> > smell of virtual machines altogether. :)
> > 
> > The only real political question I can see is... do people really want Swing 
> > apps depending on JNI? I can only speak for myself, but I sure as s*** don't 
> > mind one bit. In fact I favour it more than than that childish 
> > (flames to /dev/null) pure-Java concept.
> 
> This may not be feasible without going through the (ugh) JCP. 

No, that's not true.  Apple's Swing L&F makes some native calls, and it
looks like this is increasing with each release.  As long as Swing's
public API isn't changed (which Apple didn't), then it doesn't matter
how it is implemented.

> Anyhow, you might want to try Swing with a recent VM if you are taking
> 1.3 as your performance benchmark.  Maybe 1.5's improvements will also
> help narrow the performance and integration/interop gaps so that using
> Swing in non-native mode is more palatable to GNOME developers, too.  I
> think there are other areas where integration and interoperability work
> between GNOME and Java might be even more useful in the future.

Very true.  Sun has started serious client-side work on Linux; the first
release will mostly just package existing Linux technology for its
customers, but the next releases will focus on better Java integration. 
I don't know more than that now, however.

Tom