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[java-gnome-hackers] Starting to think about the next release

[Andrew C. <an...@op...>]

Hello all,

It's been a while since our last release, so I'm starting to think about
cutting java-gnome 4.0.8.

I have personally been focused on a number of other things (ie, _using_
java-gnome, not just hacking on the library, and more to the point, ie
trying to find work to pay the bills, because this project sure as hell
doesn't) but there are a number of fixes from new contributors that are
on 'mainline' that are probably worth putting out.

The 'textview' branch that Stefan, Kenneth, and I have been working on
is coming along, but still isn't anywhere near merge ready. I had been
hoping that it would make it into 4.0.8, but I don't think that's going
to happen. Alas.

Anyway, if someone has a burning desire to see something in 4.0.8, then
now would be a good time to get it cleaned up and submitted.

        {ahem, cough}

        Srichand, that Cairo work you were telling me about...
        Stefan, that Assistant branch...
        Vreixo, the Pango text rendering work you said you were doing...

        [Jeesh, if you guys take too long, TextView coverage will make
        it in after all. :)]

I'm not actually in a rush to make this next release (especially if it
is lacking TextView coverage). That said, 4.0.4 was a point release
without any big headlines, so I guess I shouldn't worry about that.

Doing a release takes a lot of work (API review, testing, website
updates, NEWS entry, more testing, publicity, etc), so people nudging me
to do a release in order to show vibrancy in the project would probably
make me feel better about spending the time on it.

Who wants to write the NEWS entry for this one?

AfC
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Re: [java-gnome-hackers] Starting to think about the next release

[Vreixo F. L. <met...@ya...>]

Hi!

I have some work in progress, maybe some things could be part of 4.0.8. However, I'll take vacations next week; if you delay release till, say,
15th August, I'll have time to review and submit you some patches. 

I'm thinking mainly about Pango, but maybe we can make some progress with gstreamer or gconf. And, of course, I have several tiny coverage aditions I've been using these months but still lack documentation.

Cheers
Vreixo


--- Em sex, 25/7/08, Andrew Cowie <an...@op...> escreveu:

> De: Andrew Cowie <an...@op...>
> Assunto: [java-gnome-hackers] Starting to think about the next release
> Para: "java-gnome-hackers" <jav...@li...>
> Data: Sexta-feira, 25 de Julho de 2008, 0:58
> Hello all,
> 
> It's been a while since our last release, so I'm
> starting to think about
> cutting java-gnome 4.0.8.
> 
> I have personally been focused on a number of other things
> (ie, _using_
> java-gnome, not just hacking on the library, and more to
> the point, ie
> trying to find work to pay the bills, because this project
> sure as hell
> doesn't) but there are a number of fixes from new
> contributors that are
> on 'mainline' that are probably worth putting out.
> 
> The 'textview' branch that Stefan, Kenneth, and I
> have been working on
> is coming along, but still isn't anywhere near merge
> ready. I had been
> hoping that it would make it into 4.0.8, but I don't
> think that's going
> to happen. Alas.
> 
> Anyway, if someone has a burning desire to see something in
> 4.0.8, then
> now would be a good time to get it cleaned up and
> submitted.
> 
>         {ahem, cough}
> 
>         Srichand, that Cairo work you were telling me
> about...
>         Stefan, that Assistant branch...
>         Vreixo, the Pango text rendering work you said you
> were doing...
> 
>         [Jeesh, if you guys take too long, TextView
> coverage will make
>         it in after all. :)]
> 
> I'm not actually in a rush to make this next release
> (especially if it
> is lacking TextView coverage). That said, 4.0.4 was a point
> release
> without any big headlines, so I guess I shouldn't worry
> about that.
> 
> Doing a release takes a lot of work (API review, testing,
> website
> updates, NEWS entry, more testing, publicity, etc), so
> people nudging me
> to do a release in order to show vibrancy in the project
> would probably
> make me feel better about spending the time on it.
> 
> Who wants to write the NEWS entry for this one?
> 
> AfC
> Sydney
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Frederick Cowie
> 
> Operational Dynamics is an operations and engineering
> consultancy
> focusing on IT strategy, organizational architecture,
> systems
> review, and effective procedures for change management. We
> actively
> carry out research and development in these areas on behalf
> of our
> clients, and enable successful use of open source in their
> mission
> critical enterprises, worldwide.
> 
> http://www.operationaldynamics.com/
> 
> Sydney   New York   Toronto   London
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Re: [java-gnome-hackers] Trouble figuring out Screens and Displays

[Andrew C. <an...@op...>]

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:04 +0200, Stefan Prelle wrote:
> I don't know how to proceed with the Display. I wanted to port a
> Dual-Head Swing application to java-gnome, but it seems GTK identifies
> screens and displays different then Swing does under Linux.
> My setup with one desktop spread over two monitors with Xinerama turned
> on, is identified as two screens under Java Swing and only one (big)
> screen under GTK.

Hm.

I suggest:

a) you hang around in #gtk+ and ask the people there about it,

b) translate your question to the 3-4 GTK C calls you are making and how
they aren't quite doing what you expect and send an email to gtk-list,

c) look at the gtk-list archives and in bugzilla. I distinctly recall
seeing the phrase "size of the glass" vs "size of the Xinerama desktop"
in recent weeks, and

d) Consider the difference between GdkScreen and GdkDisplay. Maybe
you've just got the wrong one.

I mean, Metacity understands individual monitors... It *is* doable.

> So my motivation to keep working on this topic doesn't exist right now,

That is perfectly fine.

I only want people contributing things they are interested in and
successful with.

Do me a favour, though - split your Display,DisplayManager stuff onto a
little branch of its own and send me the bundle. I'll put it online so
we don't lose track of it, and we can fix it up once we learn, someday,
how to use it properly.

[I wish I could help, but I haven't had dual monitors for a year or two
now, sorry]

AfC
Sydney