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[Java-gnome-developer] new projects

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

hi,
I'm considering rewriting some of my programs using gtk-java. They are
currently written in Delphi, for windows only. Originally, I had planned
to learn C and do the ui in gtk. I then moved to thinking about doing it
in java (since I know the language a lot better and also because object
orientated aspect of it will work really well with the backend). Now
I've found java-gtk, I'm considering using this instead. I have a few
questions before I start coding though.

* gtk2
  Does java-gtk use gtk2? if not, is partially working code for gtk2
available. When will gtk+2 version be ready? From my initial look at the
gtk docs, I would be wanting the functionality of the gtk+2 trees, which
seem to be done differently to the gtk1 model. I have not yet read the
full docs, so do not know of other specific details.
* windows
  Do you have any concrete examples of this actually working under
windows. This is a major part of my software, so it is essential that
there is a chance for this to work. 
Also, I 
* Development
  Is java-gtk being actively developed, by people who are still
interested in it? (by looking at the sourceforge files, this seems to be
true) 
Are there any competing gtk-in-java projects? 


Thanks in advance for your response.


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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] new projects

[Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...>]

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 06:22, Mark Howard wrote:
> hi,
> I'm considering rewriting some of my programs using gtk-java. They are
> currently written in Delphi, for windows only. Originally, I had planned
> to learn C and do the ui in gtk. I then moved to thinking about doing it
> in java (since I know the language a lot better and also because object
> orientated aspect of it will work really well with the backend). Now
> I've found java-gtk, I'm considering using this instead. I have a few
> questions before I start coding though.
> 
> * gtk2
>   Does java-gtk use gtk2? if not, is partially working code for gtk2
> available. When will gtk+2 version be ready? From my initial look at the
> gtk docs, I would be wanting the functionality of the gtk+2 trees, which
> seem to be done differently to the gtk1 model. I have not yet read the
> full docs, so do not know of other specific details.

The current released versions are not based on gtk2.  The code
in CVS is based on gtk2 and is getting quite stable.  I am hoping
to have my next release (with full gtk2 support) available prior
to the GNOME Summit in late July.  That being said, the tree
control is still not complete.  I am currently working on it.
I hope to have it complete and an example available sometime
this week.

> * windows
>   Do you have any concrete examples of this actually working under
> windows. This is a major part of my software, so it is essential that
> there is a chance for this to work. 
> Also, I 

Although it has been brought up several times, I don't believe
anybody has successfully compiled the software on the windows
platform.  I do not see any reason it will not work.  If you
are interested in trying I would be glad to assist.

> * Development
>   Is java-gtk being actively developed, by people who are still
> interested in it? (by looking at the sourceforge files, this seems to be
> true) 
> Are there any competing gtk-in-java projects? 

I am still working on java-gnome.  My progress has been slowed
down over the past couple of months due to increased workload
on my day job and my involvement on other open source projects.
I am now primarily focused on this project.

There is another project that provides gtk bindings for java.  It
is at http://gnome-gcj.sourceforge.net/index.html.  This project has
posted a document that contrasts java-gnome and their project.  This
paper is very out of date and no longer reflects reality.  I am not
sure if it is being actively developed.

> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your response.
> 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] new projects

[Clemens E. <Lin...@we...>]

Hi!

>* windows
>  Do you have any concrete examples of this actually working under
>windows. This is a major part of my software, so it is essential that
>there is a chance for this to work. 
>
hi!
Yes, of course there is a chance for this to work. Theoretically you 
only need to read the Linux-Makefile
and compile and link the c files like under Linux.
I think there sould be only minor compile and link errors.
Maybe I have some time to try it out next time...

>Also, I 
>* Development
>  Is java-gtk being actively developed, by people who are still
>interested in it? (by looking at the sourceforge files, this seems to be
>true) 
>
I also want to help, but I dont have any time now, and i'm not a very 
good developer.

>Are there any competing gtk-in-java projects?
>
Hmm, I dont know very big projects but yes, there are many tools 
developed with java-gtk. If you want, you also can compile your java-app
nativly with gcj (This doesnt work under Windows for now - gcj3.1 has no 
jni support under windows).
I think the biggest problem is that there are no RPM's avaible. With 
compiled rpms (with libGTK.so,  gtk.jar, gtk.so (for gcj)) it would be 
easy for ditributions to include this great stuff.

cu Linuxhippy

PS: You said you're using delphi, there is an commercial app avaible for 
Linux called "Kylix2" from Borland, with that you can recompile your 
delphi-apps with only minior changes (If you only used the 
Borland-Component-Library).
Good luck!

> 
>
>
>Thanks in advance for your response.
>
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