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[Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Sean C. <exc...@gm...>]

Hey there,

I'm working on a project called JetGet, a download manager written in
java-gnome. I recently added a link to it on the java-gnome
screenshots page.

My post now, is to let you know I've an AT (acceptance test) framework
in place for java-gnome in JetGet.

AT's are executable text documents that specify the funcionality of a
program, and can be written by customers, designers, testers or indeed
nearly anybody because they are written in almost plain english.

My framework interprets the document and creates a junit test suite
which either passes or fails depending on wheither the AT passes or
fails. (so integration with eclipse/intellij etc.. is very nice)

So, for example... take this application:
http://www.thecentric.com/images/jetget4.png

This AT successfully passes for this application:

TestTableIsEmpty downloadTable true

UserSelectsMenuItem mnuNewDownload
UserInputsText txtUrl http://www.thecentric.com/
UserInputsText txtSaveAs /home/sean/thecentric.index.html
UserClicksButton btnOkButton

TestTableIsEmpty downloadTable false

TestTableRowItem downloadTable 0 "/home/sean/thecentric.index.html"
"http://www.thecentric.com/" "5 K" "0.0%"


The AT syntax is generally VERB CONTROLNAME PARAMETERS...

This has many advantages over simply 'unit testing'. In commercial
applications it lets you potentially put the owness on the customer to
specify required functionality through AT's. It also gives you a one
button click platform testing and regression testing.

Anyone think this may be useful to them?

Cheers
Sean

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

It's not useful for any of the projects I'm working on now, but I can see how
many people would find this useful. However, it would be even better if you had
a ui for writing the tests.

The ui application could load a glade xml file, find all the widgets in it and
add click event handlers. Then you would click on a widget and see a window with
appropriate actions for that control (e.g. user enters text for text boxes).

This way you don't have to remember the widget names or syntax of the test
files.

-- 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Sean C. <exc...@gm...>]

Hey Mark,

I've kinda just implemented what you suggested, I've a 'developer'
system property which can be true or false. If it's true it will
output your actions in a session to an acceptance test file. I've got
the action orientated commands like UserSelectsMenuItem,
UserInputsText, UserClicksButton etc... working.

However I've no way yet to insert the Test commands, that will
probably need a UI.

Obviously this makes writing AT's for regression testing, or writing
AT's to test existing functionality easier. However ideally, I see the
AT's being written up front and the development being acceptance test
driven. You know your finished when the AT passes.

Great idea though, thanks.
Sean

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:32:12 +0000, Mark Howard <mh...@ti...> wrote:
> It's not useful for any of the projects I'm working on now, but I can see how
> many people would find this useful. However, it would be even better if you had
> a ui for writing the tests.
> 
> The ui application could load a glade xml file, find all the widgets in it and
> add click event handlers. Then you would click on a widget and see a window with
> appropriate actions for that control (e.g. user enters text for text boxes).
> 
> This way you don't have to remember the widget names or syntax of the test
> files.
> 
> --
>   .''`. Mark Howard
>  : :' :
>  `. `'  http://www.tildemh.com
>    `-   mh...@de... | mh...@ti...
>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Jeff M. <ku...@gm...>]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:19:25 +0000, Sean Coughlan <exc...@gm...> wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> I'm working on a project called JetGet, a download manager written in
> java-gnome. I recently added a link to it on the java-gnome
> screenshots page.

I saw the screenshot.  It looks quite nice!

> My post now, is to let you know I've an AT (acceptance test) framework
> in place for java-gnome in JetGet.
> 
> AT's are executable text documents that specify the funcionality of a
> program, and can be written by customers, designers, testers or indeed
> nearly anybody because they are written in almost plain english.
> 
> My framework interprets the document and creates a junit test suite
> which either passes or fails depending on wheither the AT passes or
> fails. (so integration with eclipse/intellij etc.. is very nice)

Is this based on fit? I have read a little about fit and it sounds
quite similar.


-- 
Jeffrey Morgan

"The highest reward for a man's toil is not
what he gets for it, but what he becomes by it"
    - Jon Ruskin

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Sean C. <exc...@gm...>]

I looked at FIT before doing this and ended up using something called
exactor instead: http://exactor.sourceforge.net/

It provided the framework and was very easier to integrate into my
ide, and to write java-gnome plugin commands.

Sean

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:30:06 -0500, Jeff Morgan <ku...@gm...> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:19:25 +0000, Sean Coughlan <exc...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I'm working on a project called JetGet, a download manager written in
> > java-gnome. I recently added a link to it on the java-gnome
> > screenshots page.
> 
> I saw the screenshot.  It looks quite nice!
> 
> > My post now, is to let you know I've an AT (acceptance test) framework
> > in place for java-gnome in JetGet.
> >
> > AT's are executable text documents that specify the funcionality of a
> > program, and can be written by customers, designers, testers or indeed
> > nearly anybody because they are written in almost plain english.
> >
> > My framework interprets the document and creates a junit test suite
> > which either passes or fails depending on wheither the AT passes or
> > fails. (so integration with eclipse/intellij etc.. is very nice)
> 
> Is this based on fit? I have read a little about fit and it sounds
> quite similar.
> 
> 
> --
> Jeffrey Morgan
> 
> "The highest reward for a man's toil is not
> what he gets for it, but what he becomes by it"
>     - Jon Ruskin
>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome and 'acceptance tests'

[Andrew C. <an...@op...>]

On Sun, 2005-13-02 at 02:19 +0000, Sean Coughlan wrote:
> This AT successfully passes for this application:
> 
> TestTableIsEmpty downloadTable true
> 
> UserSelectsMenuItem mnuNewDownload
> UserInputsText txtUrl http://www.thecentric.com/
> UserInputsText txtSaveAs /home/sean/thecentric.index.html
> UserClicksButton btnOkButton
> 
> TestTableIsEmpty downloadTable false
> 
> TestTableRowItem downloadTable 0 "/home/sean/thecentric.index.html"
> "http://www.thecentric.com/" "5 K" "0.0%"

Although I'm not a Mac OS X user, yesterday at a Linux Australia board
meeting someone was describing "Newton Script" or "Apple Script" or
"Apple Talk" - a scripting framework where, if I understood correctly,
the entire desktop and any application is easily and totally available
for scripting. I gather it is [conceptually] along the lines of 

Such-in-such-application->File Menu->Save Item->(/tmp/filename.txt)

which is what you've developed, it seems.

[Since we were meeting at jdub's place, he mentioned that there is a
quiet movement in this direction; the accessibility toolkit gives all
the hooks that are needed, so this sort of thing should be possible in
GNOME...]

So, if nothing else, Sean, if you're looking for further inspiration,
you might check out what Mac OS X has in this area.

*I* for one am desperately in need of automated testing for presented UI
elements. I can and do Unit Test the infrastructure underneath, no
problem, but once Windows are fired up, it's difficult indeed to do
further automated tests.

Great work, Sean!

AfC
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[Java-gnome-developer] Colors

[Joao V. <jvi...@ya...>]

I'm trying to specify a color here with gdk.Color.... but, the object takes a 16bit for
red/green/blue (a 48bit pixel? That's totally odd to me...). So, how do i convert a basic RGB (8
bit each color) to that 16bit convention?

Cheers,
J.V.


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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Colors

[Joao V. <jvi...@ya...>]

Ok... if i multiply the 8bit color by 257 i think i get the color i want. But i think i'll submit
a bug on this...

Cheers,
J.V.


 --- Joao Victor <jvi...@ya...> escreveu: 
> I'm trying to specify a color here with gdk.Color.... but, the object takes a 16bit for
> red/green/blue (a 48bit pixel? That's totally odd to me...). So, how do i convert a basic RGB (8
> bit each color) to that 16bit convention?
> 
> Cheers,
> J.V.



	
	
		
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