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[Java-gnome-developer] ANNOUNCE: Java-Gnome 2.8.2 and 2.9.1

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

The Java-Gnome team is pleased to announce the latest stable release and new
developmental release.

Stable releases:
libgtk-java 2.4.6, libglade-java 2.8.2, libgnome-java 2.8.2, libgconf-java =
2.8.2
These releases should be used for general development. They are stable and
API-frozen. Future 2.4.x/2.8.x releases will be made for bug fixes only.
Binary packages of stable releases for most distributions are available fro=
m our
website (Packages for other distribtions wanted).

Developmental releases:
libgtk-java 2.5.1, libglade-java 2.9.1, libgnome-java 2.9.1, libgconf-java =
2.9.1
These are developmental releases which require the very latest gtk and gnome
libraries.


Changes:
libgtk-java 2.4.6
- Fixed actiongroup patch error
- Fixed #! lines
- Bug 156712: Tree expand events is never sent
  Fixed. Thanks to Laurent Martelli
- Bug 156807: Bad doc for CheckMenuItem.addListener
  Fixed.  [Jeffrey Morgan]
- Bug 156752: TextBuffer.setText(null) crashes JVM
  Fixed. Replacing null with empty string in TextBuffer and Label. [Jeffrey=
 Morgan]
- Bug 156897: RadioMenuItem crash [Laurent Martelli]
- Bug 156923: Container.getChildren broken
  Fixed.  Thanks to Laurent Martelli
- Fixed TreeView.getPathAtPos method.

libglade-java 2.8.2
- Fixed autogen.sh

libgnome-java 2.8.2
- Fixed autogen.sh
- Fixed CanvasGroup.getItemList  [Jeffrey Morgan]
- Changed Program to not inherit from GObject  [Jeffrey Morgan]

libgconf-java 2.8.2
- Fixed autoconf !# line

Download Details:
http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/bin/view/Main/GetJavaGnome

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Re: [Fwd: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6]

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

This could be related to problems some people have been having with the way
glade loads files. (A few patches have been committed to cvs for this recently).
Could you send the code please?

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] libgtk help

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:33:08AM -0500, Skip Coon wrote:
> Using sun's jdk-1.4.2.05: 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
> org/gnu/glade/LibGlade (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)

This is an inconsistancy in the class file format. You probably compiled
java-gnome with jikes. (the makefiles automatically pick a java compiler to use,
preferring open source ones). As default, this generates class files which are
too new for sun/blackdown java. This can be overridden with jikes --target 1.3.
To make java-gnome do this, you would have to modify the makefiles.

Alternatively, use another compiler for the job:
export JAVAC=javac before running autogen and make will make the scripts use
javac rather than jikes.
If you do this, be sure to remove all jar and class files first (make clean
should do this for you), otherwise some may not be recompiled.


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Re: [Fwd: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6]

[Luca De R. <pie...@fa...>]

Il giorno sab, 06-11-2004 alle 08:55 -0500, Hans Deragon ha scritto:
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> Greetings.
>=20
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>   So, nobody ever tried java-gnome 2.6.0.1 on Fedora Core 2?  I am the fi=
rst?
>  Nobody ever experience segmentation violation with the tls/libc.so.6 lib=
rary
> on any other distro?  Check the original mail below for more details.
I'm running it on fedora since 2 years, there are fedora2 libgtk-java
rpm packages avilable as well as semi-official fedora3 java-gnome rpms,
everything is linked ion the site. Fedora4 will ship with java-gnome.
...maybe you are not the first to try it on fedora ;)
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[Fwd: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6]

[Hans D. <ha...@de...>]

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Greetings.


  So, nobody ever tried java-gnome 2.6.0.1 on Fedora Core 2?  I am the first?
 Nobody ever experience segmentation violation with the tls/libc.so.6 library
on any other distro?  Check the original mail below for more details.


Best regards,
Hans Deragon
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Subject: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:24:18 -0400
From: Hans Deragon <ha...@de...>
Organization: Deragon Informatique inc.
To: jav...@li...

Greetings.


  Newbie here.  In my first attempt to run a basic Java-Gnome program
(Example1.java slightly modified), I get the following:

- --->
(java-gnome:8032): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222
(g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(java-gnome:8032): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1222
(g_object_get): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM.
Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x173711
Function=__libc_free+0x61
Library=/lib/tls/libc.so.6

Current Java thread:
        at org.gnu.glade.LibGlade.glade_xml_new_from_buffer(Native Method)
        at org.gnu.glade.LibGlade.<init>(LibGlade.java:117)
        at org.gnu.glade.LibGlade.<init>(LibGlade.java:88)
        at org.gnu.glade.LibGlade.<init>(LibGlade.java:60)
        at marketmanager.gui.MarketManagerGui.<init>(MarketManagerGui.java:17)
        at marketmanager.gui.MarketManagerGui.main(MarketManagerGui.java:38)
<----

  I am running Fedora Core 2 with latest patches, java-gnome-2.6.0.1 and
j2sdk1.4.2_05.  Anybody have suggestions on how to get pass this hurdle?


Best regards,
Hans Deragon
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[Java-gnome-developer] libgtk help

[Skip C. <sco...@gm...>]

Hey All,  

I have upgraded my java-gnome ot stable 2.8.  Now I am running into a
problem with libglade that I did not have with the version 2.6.

Using eclipse-3, when I run a libglade example I get this error when
using sun's jdk-1.5.0:

(process:1687): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2253: initialization
assertion failed, use g_type_init() prior to this function

(process:1687): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 819
(g_object_new): assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed

(process:1687): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1579
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
org.gnu.glade.GladeXMLException: file glade-xml.c: line 180
(glade_xml_construct): assertion `self != NULL' failed


Using sun's jdk-1.4.2.05: 
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
org/gnu/glade/LibGlade (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:539)
	at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:251)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:55)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:194)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:187)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:289)
	at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:274)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:235)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:302)
	at gentoo.GUI.<init>(GUI.java:28)
	at gentoo.Main.main(Main.java:22)


Anyone have any ideas as to what the problem may be ?



scoon

[Java-gnome-developer] GNOME Web Start

[Benjamin P. J. <bp...@te...>]

Hi all,

I'm new to this list and didn't bother to read the whole history, so
please forgive me if the idea which I want to present ain't new at
all. :-)

I have never ever written an application using GTK/GNOME, but my skills
as a Java programmer are quite good. I played around with the java-gnome
binding itself and was surprised how easy it is to create a nice GUI
using Glade and then actually loading it using the excellent java-gnome
bindings... the documentation on how to do all the tricky things sucks /
is just not completed. My English isn't very good as it ain't my native
tongue but I could to do some German translations if needed.

But now to my actual idea:
I'm using Java Web Start to deploy most of my Java/Swing applications.
It's a clean and easy way to keep all users of a software product
up-to-date.  See http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
It's a technology that 'just works' (tm).
I haven't tried yet,... but it should be possible without too many
problems to deploy applications that use the java-gnome bindings via
Java Web Start, too. Java Web Start uses the Java Net Launching Protocol
(JNLP) which is a well documented standard provided by SUN Microsystems.
You browse the web, download a jnlp file (XML format) and hand it over
to your Web Start application which does the rest for you. It downloads
all the required JAR files and (if needed) native libraries, it handles
permission control and security (all JAR files need to be digitally
signed).

Why not write a clone of SUN's original Java Web Start which acts as an
JNLP interpreter and handles start menu / desktop integration, caching
and updates of already installed Web Start applications and libraries...
JNLP spec.: http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/download-spec.html

Maybe the idea is dumb, but it could become some kind of killer
application. I'm speaking of an application to deploy platform
independent Java applications that integrate nicely into your GNOME
desktop. (It might be extended at some further point to be able to load
and deploy apps that are e.g. written in python).

Test page for my 1st attempt of a java-gnome application that can be
started via SUN's Java Web Start:
http://phreakzone.com/~bpjung/projects/gws/gws.jnlp (ain't working, yet)

The goal should be to create an application that runs using SableVM or
any other open source Java Runtime. Maybe it's overkill to use JNLP and
the first goal should be to create a data format that is slightly easier
to handle... comments anybody?


Have fun...
  Benjamin

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 02:13:23AM +0000, Sean Coughlan wrote:
> what is the current tactic to build awareness / user base out there?
Most of the users will use our stable releases. I'm not sure if I understood
this question correctly.

> why can't we have direct links to packages for some of the major
> distros on the website?
We do. Having more packages is certainly something we want to have. Any help
would be appreciated


> is there a person dedicated to documentation? 
No. Previously it was just all done by developers. Now we have a wiki anybody
can join in and we would really like more people to do this.

> are the core maintainers
> spread too thin? 
Yes. And the developers have varying amount of time from week to week. For
example, I might find a few hours one weekend but then no time for the next few
weeks.

> is there a concrete list of stuff that be made up and
> then delegated to willing people on the list? 
The top priority list is bugs in bugzilla.gnome.org
Then we have the list of API changes for the new upstream releases. We will be
updating this on the wiki so we can keep track of what is done.
Finally we have new libraries to be bound.


> is java-gnome mature,
> stable and complete enough for a slashdot or equivilent post?
Absolutely

> If there is anything i can do to help out... i'm game, able and have the tim
What are you interested in doing? If it's development, then there's plenty to
do -- just ask on java-gnome-hackers and we'll try to help you get started. 
If you have time to test the libraries, find out how they work and then write
documents, or example apps to help new users, that would be really useful. I've
started a JavaGnomePrimer page on the wiki which will hopefully be like a new
user tutorial in the future. You're free to work on that if you want -- one area
in particular where we need more documents is about glade.
I'm sure there are lots of other things you can do to help too -- It just
depends on what you're interested in and able to do.

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[Java-gnome-developer] #java-gnome IRC on gimpnet

[Andrew C. <an...@op...>]

Just FYI,

I've been holding #java-gnome open on irc.gimp.org, which would be as
good a place as any for us to collaborate.

See you there...

AfC
Sydney

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Sean C. <exc...@gm...>]

I think you're absolutly right andrew, you make excellant points.

i'm gonna rattle off a few things here, hope you dont mind...

what is the current tactic to build awareness / user base out there?
why can't we have direct links to packages for some of the major
distros on the website?
if we dont have them - make that a priority (delegate if nessecary)
there needs to be a drive to create a killer app developed in
java-gnome that merits inclusion in major distros.
is there a person dedicated to documentation? are the core maintainers
spread too thin? is there a concrete list of stuff that be made up and
then delegated to willing people on the list? is java-gnome mature,
stable and complete enough for a slashdot or equivilent post?

If there is anything i can do to help out... i'm game, able and have the tim


On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:18:08 +1100, Andrew Cowie
<an...@op...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-04-11 at 17:20 +0000, Mark Howard wrote:
> > > and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> > > 2.5.
> 
> > Please don't do this until it is absolutely necessary (i.e. we depend on some
> > new API).
> 
> I go one further than this and ask that we not bump it at all until it
> is absolutely necessary.
> 
> We are at a critical point now. We have some momentum here but we need
> to significantly grow our user, developer, and hacker base or else the
> project will be in danger of stalling out.
> 
> Downloading code from CVS just for java-gnome is one thing, but asking
> someone to track the entire unstable GNOME development is a much higher
> hurdle.
> 
> So I for one would be very pleased if one could use & develop java-gnome
> on top of an otherwise stable (2.8) gnome platform for some time to
> come.
> 
> There's nothing wrong with a >= gtk 2.4 dependency. Indeed, until GNOME
> development platform makes a 2.x -> 3.x jump, I don't see why java-gnome
> shouldn't be designed to work, out of the box, on several older
> versions. We all know that almost all of our bugs have been around our
> own bindings, not around changes in the underlying API. Actively
> promoting this sort of thing would help us attract new developers by
> making it easier to use j-g for development, and contribute to the
> bindings themselves.
> 
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> Sydney
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] New releases and maintenance branch cr eated

[Skip C. <sco...@gm...>]

Hey there, 

Thank you very much.  I guess I get REALLY excited for this.


scoon


On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 06:45:35 -0500, Jeffrey Morgan
<jef...@br...> wrote:
> > Hey there,
> >
> > I am struggling trying to get the stable release from CVS.
> > When I do:
> > CVSROOT=":pserver:ano...@an...:/cvs/gnome" cvs -z3 co
> > -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome
> >
> > I get this:
> > cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag MAINT_2_8
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> 
> Gnome anonymous cvs sometimes 24 hours behind their non-anonymous
> access.  I just created the branch yeasterday morning so I would
> suggest trying again in a few hours.  If you are still having
> problems please let me know.
> 
> >
> > thanks for your help,
> >
> > scoon
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:47:23 -0500, Jeff Morgan
> > <ku...@gm...> wrote:
> > > We finally got the cvs premissions issue resolved over
> > night last night so
> > > we made two releases this morning.  An official announcement will be
> > > sent out shortly.
> > >
> > > What does this mean for you?  I'll try to summarize here:
> > >
> > > Stable code
> > > We released 2.8.2 this morning.  The source tarballs are on
> > the gnome
> > > ftp site.  We also created a cvs branch to continue to maintain the
> > > stable code.  The branch is called MAINT_2_8.  If you wish
> > to checkout
> > > the stable code you will need to reference this branch like:
> > >
> > > cvs -z3 co -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome
> > >
> > > As we make changes to the HEAD we will apply appropriate bug fixes
> > > to this branch and will continue to make periodic releases.
> > >
> > > Development code
> > > We also released 2.9.1 this morning.  The only change from 2.8.2 is
> > > the version created and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> > > 2.5.  Over the next week or so we will be increasing the additional
> > > dependencies to force java-gnome HEAD to build with gnome cvs.
> > > If you wish to stay current with development I would suggest you
> > > use jhbuild to maintain a current gnome environment.
> > >
> > > The HEAD is where new development will take place.  This code
> > > should be considered unstable.  Since we have started our 2.9
> > > development effort we will now be able to make API additions.
> > > I know several of you have posted patches to add missing
> > > functionality.  We will be applying these patches over the next
> > > few days.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey Morgan
> > >
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> > > what he gets for it, but what he becomse by it"
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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branc h created

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

> On Thu, 2004-04-11 at 17:20 +0000, Mark Howard wrote:
> > > and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> > > 2.5.
> 
> > Please don't do this until it is absolutely necessary (i.e. 
> we depend on some
> > new API).
> 
> I go one further than this and ask that we not bump it at all until it
> is absolutely necessary.
> 
> We are at a critical point now. We have some momentum here but we need
> to significantly grow our user, developer, and hacker base or else the
> project will be in danger of stalling out.
> 
> Downloading code from CVS just for java-gnome is one thing, but asking
> someone to track the entire unstable GNOME development is a 
> much higher
> hurdle.
> 
> So I for one would be very pleased if one could use & develop 
> java-gnome
> on top of an otherwise stable (2.8) gnome platform for some time to
> come.

When we joined the gnome platform bindings we comitted to attempting
to stay current with the gnome platform.  The means that our cvs HEAD
will almost always be bleeding edge and require trying to stay current
with gnome development.  Most developers that wish to use java-gnome
should choose to use one of the stable releases like 2.8.x.  Even
this releases require gnome 2.8 which is not widely distributed at
this time.

There are a large number of gtk APIs that we need to add prior to our
2.10 release.

http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/bin/view/Main/UpstreamAPIChanges

We cannot wait too long before starting this effort.  I propose we do
the following:

Release 2.9.2 - November 29
---------------------------
Retain gtk 2.4 dependency
Add 64-bit support
Focus on adding missing API to existing bindings
Fix currently reported bugs

Release 2.9.3 - December 20
---------------------------
We will need to move to gtk 2.5 here
Add gtk 2.5 API changes
Add gnome 2.9 API changes
Add Windows compilation support

Release 2.9.4 - January 10 API/ABI Freeze
-----------------------------------------
Finish adding gtk and gnome API changes


This would mean that we have 25 days to create a release
that has the missing API you need.  Let me know what you
think.

-Jeff


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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] New releases and maintenance branch cr eated

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

> Hey there, 
> 
> I am struggling trying to get the stable release from CVS.  
> When I do: 
> CVSROOT=":pserver:ano...@an...:/cvs/gnome" cvs -z3 co
> -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome
> 
> I get this: 
> cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag MAINT_2_8
> 
> Any ideas ?

Gnome anonymous cvs sometimes 24 hours behind their non-anonymous
access.  I just created the branch yeasterday morning so I would
suggest trying again in a few hours.  If you are still having
problems please let me know.

> 
> thanks for your help, 
> 
> scoon
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:47:23 -0500, Jeff Morgan 
> <ku...@gm...> wrote:
> > We finally got the cvs premissions issue resolved over 
> night last night so
> > we made two releases this morning.  An official announcement will be
> > sent out shortly.
> > 
> > What does this mean for you?  I'll try to summarize here:
> > 
> > Stable code
> > We released 2.8.2 this morning.  The source tarballs are on 
> the gnome
> > ftp site.  We also created a cvs branch to continue to maintain the
> > stable code.  The branch is called MAINT_2_8.  If you wish 
> to checkout
> > the stable code you will need to reference this branch like:
> > 
> > cvs -z3 co -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome
> > 
> > As we make changes to the HEAD we will apply appropriate bug fixes
> > to this branch and will continue to make periodic releases.
> > 
> > Development code
> > We also released 2.9.1 this morning.  The only change from 2.8.2 is
> > the version created and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> > 2.5.  Over the next week or so we will be increasing the additional
> > dependencies to force java-gnome HEAD to build with gnome cvs.
> > If you wish to stay current with development I would suggest you
> > use jhbuild to maintain a current gnome environment.
> > 
> > The HEAD is where new development will take place.  This code
> > should be considered unstable.  Since we have started our 2.9
> > development effort we will now be able to make API additions.
> > I know several of you have posted patches to add missing
> > functionality.  We will be applying these patches over the next
> > few days.
> > 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] New releases and maintenance branch created

[Skip C. <sco...@gm...>]

Hey there, 

I am struggling trying to get the stable release from CVS.  When I do: 
CVSROOT=":pserver:ano...@an...:/cvs/gnome" cvs -z3 co
-r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome

I get this: 
cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag MAINT_2_8

Any ideas ?

thanks for your help, 

scoon



On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:47:23 -0500, Jeff Morgan <ku...@gm...> wrote:
> We finally got the cvs premissions issue resolved over night last night so
> we made two releases this morning.  An official announcement will be
> sent out shortly.
> 
> What does this mean for you?  I'll try to summarize here:
> 
> Stable code
> We released 2.8.2 this morning.  The source tarballs are on the gnome
> ftp site.  We also created a cvs branch to continue to maintain the
> stable code.  The branch is called MAINT_2_8.  If you wish to checkout
> the stable code you will need to reference this branch like:
> 
> cvs -z3 co -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome
> 
> As we make changes to the HEAD we will apply appropriate bug fixes
> to this branch and will continue to make periodic releases.
> 
> Development code
> We also released 2.9.1 this morning.  The only change from 2.8.2 is
> the version created and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> 2.5.  Over the next week or so we will be increasing the additional
> dependencies to force java-gnome HEAD to build with gnome cvs.
> If you wish to stay current with development I would suggest you
> use jhbuild to maintain a current gnome environment.
> 
> The HEAD is where new development will take place.  This code
> should be considered unstable.  Since we have started our 2.9
> development effort we will now be able to make API additions.
> I know several of you have posted patches to add missing
> functionality.  We will be applying these patches over the next
> few days.
> 
> --
> Jeffrey Morgan
> 
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> what he gets for it, but what he becomse by it"
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[Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Andrew C. <an...@op...>]

On Thu, 2004-04-11 at 17:20 +0000, Mark Howard wrote:
> > and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
> > 2.5.

> Please don't do this until it is absolutely necessary (i.e. we depend on =
some
> new API).

I go one further than this and ask that we not bump it at all until it
is absolutely necessary.

We are at a critical point now. We have some momentum here but we need
to significantly grow our user, developer, and hacker base or else the
project will be in danger of stalling out.

Downloading code from CVS just for java-gnome is one thing, but asking
someone to track the entire unstable GNOME development is a much higher
hurdle.

So I for one would be very pleased if one could use & develop java-gnome
on top of an otherwise stable (2.8) gnome platform for some time to
come.

There's nothing wrong with a >=3D gtk 2.4 dependency. Indeed, until GNOME
development platform makes a 2.x -> 3.x jump, I don't see why java-gnome
shouldn't be designed to work, out of the box, on several older
versions. We all know that almost all of our bugs have been around our
own bindings, not around changes in the underlying API. Actively
promoting this sort of thing would help us attract new developers by
making it easier to use j-g for development, and contribute to the
bindings themselves.

AfC
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: Fwd: Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Jeff M. <ku...@gm...>]

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:42:08 +0100, Laurent Martelli <la...@ao...> wrote:
> This is real bad because if I develop an application which needs the
> API that weren't in java-gnome 2.8, I'm stuck to using the bleeding
> edge, potential instable gtk/gnome from CVS which no distribution will
> ship. This means that any user of such an application will have to go
> through the hazards of downlaading and installing the gtk/gnome from
> CVS. This is not going to help in the adoption of java-gnome by
> developpers.
> 
> I understand the policy is meant to ensure compatibility. But adding a
> new method/function breaks nothing. I've already said all this via the
> BTS, but I hope that saying it again here will make more people aware
> of the insanity ;-)

I know it can be quite frustrating but we decided over a year ago to join
the Gnome Platform Bindings.  As a result we have to follow a set
of rules.  Please believe me, I understand your pain.  The fact is, we are
having a major release every six months and minor releases more frequently.
The current 2.9 development effort will be released in about four months.
You can help make a difference by helping us ensure we have complete
coverage of existing functionality during this time.

We have several large items to introduce into the bindings during 2.9
development.  We will add support for 64-bit platforms, Windows
compilation (hopefully), and a large amount of changes to gtk.  I would
also like to see our gtkhtml and glade bindings mature over this period.

-- 
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what he gets for it, but what he becomse by it"
    - Jon Ruskin

[Java-gnome-developer] Re: Fwd: Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Laurent M. <la...@ao...>]

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Morgan <ku...@gm...> writes:

  Jeff> Forgot to reply to the list!  ---------- Forwarded message
  Jeff> ---------- From: Jeff Morgan
  Jeff> <ku...@gm...> Date: Thu, 4
  Jeff> Nov 2004 11:00:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [Java-gnome-developer]
  Jeff> Re: New releases and maintenance branch created To: Laurent
  Jeff> Martelli <la...@ao...>


  Jeff> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:35:48 +0100, Laurent Martelli
  Jeff> <la...@ao...> wrote:
  >> Should I understand that the API additions will only be available
  >> with gtk/gnome current CVS ? And that some API from gtk 2.4 which
  >> were not reflected in java-gome 2.8 will only be available with
  >> gtk 2.5 ?

  Jeff> This is correct.  We are not able to add API to a stable
  Jeff> release.  Since we have now started our 2.9 development effort
  Jeff> we will be able to add the missing API.  These are the rules
  Jeff> of the gnome platform bindings.

This is real bad because if I develop an application which needs the
API that weren't in java-gnome 2.8, I'm stuck to using the bleeding
edge, potential instable gtk/gnome from CVS which no distribution will
ship. This means that any user of such an application will have to go
through the hazards of downlaading and installing the gtk/gnome from
CVS. This is not going to help in the adoption of java-gnome by
developpers. 

I understand the policy is meant to ensure compatibility. But adding a
new method/function breaks nothing. I've already said all this via the
BTS, but I hope that saying it again here will make more people aware
of the insanity ;-)

-- 
Laurent Martelli
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http://www.aopsys.com/                          http://jac.objectweb.org

Fwd: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Jeff M. <ku...@gm...>]

Forgot to reply to the list!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeff Morgan <ku...@gm...>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:00:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance
branch created
To: Laurent Martelli <la...@ao...>


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:35:48 +0100, Laurent Martelli <la...@ao...> wrote:
> Should I understand that the API additions will only be available with
> gtk/gnome current CVS ? And that some API from gtk 2.4 which were not
> reflected in java-gome 2.8 will only be available with gtk 2.5 ?

This is correct.  We are not able to add API to a stable release.  Since
we have now started our 2.9 development effort we will be able to add
the missing API.  These are the rules of the gnome platform bindings.

-Jeff


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"The highest reward for a man's toil is not
what he gets for it, but what he becomse by it"
    - Jon Ruskin

[Java-gnome-developer] Re: New releases and maintenance branch created

[Laurent M. <la...@ao...>]

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Morgan <ku...@gm...> writes:

[...]

  Jeff> Development code We also released 2.9.1 this morning.  The
  Jeff> only change from 2.8.2 is the version created and I increased
  Jeff> the gtk dependency from 2.4 to 2.5.  Over the next week or so
  Jeff> we will be increasing the additional dependencies to force
  Jeff> java-gnome HEAD to build with gnome cvs.  If you wish to stay
  Jeff> current with development I would suggest you use jhbuild to
  Jeff> maintain a current gnome environment.

  Jeff> The HEAD is where new development will take place.  This code
  Jeff> should be considered unstable.  Since we have started our 2.9
  Jeff> development effort we will now be able to make API additions.
  Jeff> I know several of you have posted patches to add missing
  Jeff> functionality.  We will be applying these patches over the
  Jeff> next few days.

Should I understand that the API additions will only be available with
gtk/gnome current CVS ? And that some API from gtk 2.4 which were not
reflected in java-gome 2.8 will only be available with gtk 2.5 ?

-- 
Laurent Martelli
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http://www.aopsys.com/                          http://jac.objectweb.org

[Java-gnome-developer] New releases and maintenance branch created

[Jeff M. <ku...@gm...>]

We finally got the cvs premissions issue resolved over night last night so
we made two releases this morning.  An official announcement will be
sent out shortly.  

What does this mean for you?  I'll try to summarize here:

Stable code
We released 2.8.2 this morning.  The source tarballs are on the gnome
ftp site.  We also created a cvs branch to continue to maintain the
stable code.  The branch is called MAINT_2_8.  If you wish to checkout
the stable code you will need to reference this branch like:

cvs -z3 co -r MAINT_2_8 java-gnome

As we make changes to the HEAD we will apply appropriate bug fixes
to this branch and will continue to make periodic releases.

Development code
We also released 2.9.1 this morning.  The only change from 2.8.2 is
the version created and I increased the gtk dependency from 2.4 to
2.5.  Over the next week or so we will be increasing the additional
dependencies to force java-gnome HEAD to build with gnome cvs.
If you wish to stay current with development I would suggest you
use jhbuild to maintain a current gnome environment.

The HEAD is where new development will take place.  This code 
should be considered unstable.  Since we have started our 2.9 
development effort we will now be able to make API additions.  
I know several of you have posted patches to add missing 
functionality.  We will be applying these patches over the next 
few days.

-- 
Jeffrey Morgan

"The highest reward for a man's toil is not
what he gets for it, but what he becomse by it"
    - Jon Ruskin

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 03:06:33PM -0500, Hans Deragon wrote:
> No... I am running Gnome 2.6.  As far as I know, java-gnome 2.8 only works
> against Gnome 2.8, right?
correct.

> How reliable is java-gnome?  I am getting concerned that if I get it working
> and start developping apps with it, next time I upgrade my system (say to
> Gnome 2.8) I might not be able to get them running anymore;  I might suffer of
> such linking problems again (real nightmare) and might not be fixable for a
> humble developer as I am.  Makes me nervous...
Java-Gnome is quite reliable and getting better all the time. We are bound to
the gnome bindings release rules. This means that we will not break API until
gnome 3.0. Therefore, any applications you write now will work with any newer
2.x release of java-gnome. The linking problems will hopefully go away as more
distributions accept java-gnome as a default package. 


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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6

[Hans D. <ha...@de...>]

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Mark Howard wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 03:24:18PM -0400, Hans Deragon wrote:
> 
>>  I am running Fedora Core 2 with latest patches, java-gnome-2.6.0.1 and
>>j2sdk1.4.2_05.  Anybody have suggestions on how to get pass this hurdle?
> 
> 
> Is there any chance you could try this with java-gnome 2.8.1 or 2.8.2? There
> have been lots of bug fixes since 2.6
> 

No... I am running Gnome 2.6.  As far as I know, java-gnome 2.8 only works
against Gnome 2.8, right?

How reliable is java-gnome?  I am getting concerned that if I get it working
and start developping apps with it, next time I upgrade my system (say to
Gnome 2.8) I might not be able to get them running anymore;  I might suffer of
such linking problems again (real nightmare) and might not be fixable for a
humble developer as I am.  Makes me nervous...


Best regards,
Hans Deragon
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Got signal 11 /lib/tls/libc.so.6

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 03:24:18PM -0400, Hans Deragon wrote:
>   I am running Fedora Core 2 with latest patches, java-gnome-2.6.0.1 and
> j2sdk1.4.2_05.  Anybody have suggestions on how to get pass this hurdle?

Is there any chance you could try this with java-gnome 2.8.1 or 2.8.2? There
have been lots of bug fixes since 2.6

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Ubuntu installation from source...

[Mark H. <mh...@ti...>]

On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 07:03:21PM +0100, Sean Coughlan wrote:
> On a clean ubuntu install with all the appropiate packages i had to
> configure like this
> ./configure CFLAGS=-I/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/3.4.2/include/
This should not be needed. We've been talking to the gcj developers about this
-- if the gcj includes cannot be found then your distribution has broken gcj.

> and do this before a make
> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/:/usr/lib/pkgconfig/
> to get java-gnome up and running.
This is probably needed for installing anything if you have a lot of things
installed in /usr/local/



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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Use of destroy()

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

I am working on 64 bit support now.  Please see my earlier
posting to see how I proposed to solve this problem.

-Jeff



> -----Original Message-----
> From: jav...@li...
> [mailto:jav...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Robert Marcano
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 1:25 PM
> To: jav...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Use of destroy()
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 13:06, Jerry Haltom wrote:
> > It does. The "problem" as I see it though is Java does not 
> allow you to
> > store pointers natively: period. It's stored as an 'int' 
> now, which is
> > guarenteed signed 32 bit on ALL PLATFORMS. There is discussion on
> > changing it to a long, which is signed 64 bit ON ALL 
> PLATFORMS. There is
> > no "native pointer". It would be nice though! THere is talk 
> on putting
> > it in a long I think, or a class. I think they both suck 
> though. With a
> > long you can't fit it all in a register, with a class you have to
> > derefrence (vtable lookup).
> > 
> 
> Another solution can be define both fields (int and long) and let the
> native code decide which one to use. But will the performance increase
> enough to allow the extra memory usage?
>  
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